Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6977|UK

Varegg wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Hire Blackwater to take care of her current boyfriend
If you like collateral damage that is ...
Should be "Hire Blackwater to take care of her current boyfriend, family and neighbors.
commandochristian
Honda - The Power of Dreams
+293|6623|Michigan, USA

Wow, I just read through all 19 pages, and like everyone else has said before me, this really is an EPIC threat that's way better than any tv show, book, or movie.  It really is an interactive diary of LT's lovelife.

Ryan, hope this situation works out for the best for you, and that Lindsey finally clears her mind, assesses her current situation, and realizes what she has waiting for her: a man that cares so much for her, that will be there for her.  A man that doesn't deserve the crap he is currently undergoing. A man by the awesome name of Ryan.

I'll be sure to bookmark this thread and check up on you, joining the many other BF2S members that care about you

Good Luck, God Bless, and Lindsey: GET TO IT! Don't let a man like Ryan pass you up.  He's as genuine as you're gonna get!

Last edited by commandochristian (2008-01-20 17:23:13)

B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7052|Cologne, Germany

LT.Victim wrote:

m3thod wrote:

LT.Victim wrote:

Don't you think I've tried to kiss her before? I can't even count how many times I've been like 1 mm away from her lips...

And your right Simon, I have done more than kiss her, yet she won't let me kiss her.. Which is kind of weird?

Me: I can do this, but I can't kiss you?
Lindsey: Because a Kiss means something, this is us just being horny...
Me: So then this doesn't mean anything?
Lindsey: Silence..

That's about the time that I wanted to shoot myself.
Get a another GF and get on with life.  Been there LT, it's a pain in the ass.

Lifes too short.
But no one else that I've met in my life so far can even compare to her..
Its not just as easy as "finding another"..
dude, you're only 17, aren't you ? I know this must sound weird in your current emotional state of mind, but you're only beginning to learn what love is and how relationships work.
Intentionally or not, she is playing with you, and you cannot let this continue. It has been going on for much too long already.
Decent girls don't cheat on their BF, you know ? Granted, Teenagers your age are easily confused by the wave of emotions that come with the GF/BF stuff, but you gotta look at the issue with some common sense here. I know it's hard, but for your own sake, you have to try.

She can't make up her mind ? Well, she'll have to.
She makes out with you and whatnot, but won't even kiss you ? That's not right, and you know it.

What you need now is distance. I think you made it pretty clear to her what your intentions are. If you allow yourself to continue like this, it's gonna get pretty ugly for both of you, and you're going to ruin any chance of a future relationship with her.
She needs to talk to her current BF and either make a commitment to him, or get with you. Anything else is not fair.
Relationships are based on trust, and how can you possibly trust a girl that acts like she has ?

Sure, whatever you had with her, you'll never have that with someone else, but so what ? Every girl and every relationship is unique, and special in its own way. There is no way to compare them anyway. Each is different.
As absurd as it may sound to you now, you can - and will - have wonderful and special moments with other girls. You're still young, you are a decent guy, and you ride dirtbikes. There is a ton of girls out there that dig dirtbike riders, you know ?

unless she talks to her BF and "clears the air", every further contact with her will make the situation worse, and will make you suffer more. You have made up your mind, and now it's her turn to do so. And if she can't make that commitment, then, with all respect, let her go.
I assure you, it's not worth the pain.

And for the love of god, try not to make out with her again. I am sorry to say that, but making out was the worst possible decision. Because now she feels guilty, and that's not the best way to start a relationship. By my experience, those should begin on equal terms.

best of luck. to both of you.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6535|New Haven, CT

Vilham wrote:

Varegg wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Hire Blackwater to take care of her current boyfriend
If you like collateral damage that is ...
Should be "Hire Blackwater to take care of her current boyfriend, family and neighbors. the Vancouver metropolitan area.
We need to strive for accuracy more often in the future.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-21 00:50:28)

TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6650|Brisbane, Australia

lulz. I saw a book at the airport about the history of Blackwater. I almost bought it.
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Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6359|'straya

B.Schuss wrote:

LT.Victim wrote:

m3thod wrote:


Get a another GF and get on with life.  Been there LT, it's a pain in the ass.

Lifes too short.
But no one else that I've met in my life so far can even compare to her..
Its not just as easy as "finding another"..
dude, you're only 17, aren't you ? I know this must sound weird in your current emotional state of mind, but you're only beginning to learn what love is and how relationships work.
Intentionally or not, she is playing with you, and you cannot let this continue. It has been going on for much too long already.
Decent girls don't cheat on their BF, you know ? Granted, Teenagers your age are easily confused by the wave of emotions that come with the GF/BF stuff, but you gotta look at the issue with some common sense here. I know it's hard, but for your own sake, you have to try.

She can't make up her mind ? Well, she'll have to.
She makes out with you and whatnot, but won't even kiss you ? That's not right, and you know it.

What you need now is distance. I think you made it pretty clear to her what your intentions are. If you allow yourself to continue like this, it's gonna get pretty ugly for both of you, and you're going to ruin any chance of a future relationship with her.
She needs to talk to her current BF and either make a commitment to him, or get with you. Anything else is not fair.
Relationships are based on trust, and how can you possibly trust a girl that acts like she has ?

Sure, whatever you had with her, you'll never have that with someone else, but so what ? Every girl and every relationship is unique, and special in its own way. There is no way to compare them anyway. Each is different.
As absurd as it may sound to you now, you can - and will - have wonderful and special moments with other girls. You're still young, you are a decent guy, and you ride dirtbikes. There is a ton of girls out there that dig dirtbike riders, you know ?

unless she talks to her BF and "clears the air", every further contact with her will make the situation worse, and will make you suffer more. You have made up your mind, and now it's her turn to do so. And if she can't make that commitment, then, with all respect, let her go.
I assure you, it's not worth the pain.

And for the love of god, try not to make out with her again. I am sorry to say that, but making out was the worst possible decision. Because now she feels guilty, and that's not the best way to start a relationship. By my experience, those should begin on equal terms.

best of luck. to both of you.
QFT

follow this mans advice lol (that means u to lindsey)
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6535|New Haven, CT
I'm glad I don't have to deal with girls.

Social ineptness can be beneficial at times.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-01-21 01:01:41)

Lai
Member
+186|6362

B.Schuss wrote:

dude, you're only 17, aren't you ? I know this must sound weird in your current emotional state of mind, but you're only beginning to learn what love is and how relationships work.
I notice alot of comments like these being posted and while they may be true, they are very generalising. You can't determine what emotional state a person is in merely looking at his or her age; would you have posted the same comment were he 37?

Even when you do, bear in mind that the "there's more fish in the sea" attitude is a very individualistic 20th/21th century Western concept; it's a cultural perception and even between people with the same cultural background, this perception can differ very much.
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|6920|Germany
Ryan,
I followed this whole story from the start, and excuse me for saying it, but I always had a little smile on my face reading how everything developed.
I´m 31 years old, means I have been running around that block a couple of times.
Most of the "old" guys here (including me) went through something like this at one or the other point in our life and seeing it all again through your eyes brings back some memories.
And out of those memories and the life experience I can tell you two things :

- 1. There is like a 1% chance that this story works out. Trust me.
Good, working love relationships grow equally, with both partners having the same amout of feelings for each other, which is not the
case here. Even if you love her so much,if she doesn´t have the same feelings for you (and from I have read here, she doesn´t), chances run 
towards zero.

- 2. Out of Number one you have three ways to proceed here :
- The easy way : Don´t stop, go on with what you are doing. Talk to her for hours, cuddle and make out with her and go through the
whole rollercoaster ride with all the confusion, anger, frustration, happiness that this story brings. How will it end ? I´m pretty sure how it will
end, and if you are honest to yourself, you probaly know it too.
Good thing about it ? Life experience. You will never fall for a girl like that again.
- The medium hard way : Practically what B.Schuss said. Step back. You made your move, now it´s her turn. The old game of give and
take :
You gave something, she took it.
If you don´t stop now, giving and giving, she will get used to it and even if you both end up together, the base for this relationship is fucked
up in the first place and you guys will never end up sharing feelings for eath other equally.
- The hard way : Stop it. Now. Step up to her and tell her you are not willing to play this/her game anymore. This will cause of a lot of 
crying and moaning and will be very hard to stand. She will say stuff like "I´m not playing with you, I just don´t know what to do." "If you
really love me, you would wait for me."
Time to play a fast ball. Hard and straight.
Tell her something along the lines of "If she doesn´t realize how you feel her, and therefor struggeling with making a desicion and completely
returning your feelings, she is not worth being with you in the first place anyway ".
This will put her on her ass. Hard.
Then leave and don´t look back.

One last tip : What I read from you very often is, that "She is the only one, she is special, there is and will be no other girl like her ever again."
Simply not true. Why ?
Because you are 17 now and the next 10 years will change a lot in your life. They way you think, the way you feel, the way you see other people and the way you judge realtionships. 10 years later you will look back on this story here and think "Hell, I was young and stupid back then."
Believe me, been there, done that.
Nevertheless, I know how it is : Now is now. You going through it today and have absolutely no reason or temptation to take a look on the big picture I´m telling you about here.

So go on, do your thing, but remember : Try to justify and back up every desicion you make with your own concience. Nothing sucks more, than realising that you decided out of the wrong reason (especially feelings) and running yourself into "Regret-land".

Whish you all the best.

/end of old, smart-ass guy comments

Last edited by HellHead (2008-01-21 03:01:53)

bennisboy
Member
+829|6857|Poundland
I kinda agree with Hellhead, I did think this might happen. BUT:

I disagree with him sayin "The easy way" none of it is easy, there are jus some ways that are harder than others.

As for him sayin her not being unique, I have no idea if you'll find that out to be true or not, but for me, 2 years on, I haven't met anyone that makes me feel the same way.

As for the hard way: I took that approach, I think it was just as hard for her as it was for me. But when I left to uni, I simply told her "I've had enough, get out my life, I shud have listened to the people that told me you were jus fucking with my head". I didnt answer her texts or calls for a while, n a few weeks later she broke up with her bf, n sent me a 9 page letter tryin to explain wat she'd been goin thru.

She was meant to come n visit, but events conspired against us, n in the end she got bk with her old bf jus before xmas, cos she thought we weren't gonna get to see eachother. N the whole thing picked up from where it left off as soon as I got home for xmas, except we spent even moe time together

Basically what I'm sayin is, maybe you should take the so called "hard-way", cos either it will force her to make her mind up, or if she makes no changes, maybe its time to force yourself to realise, even if you dont think its true, that she does love her current bf more. It might hurt, but at least you'll know for sure one way or another
Lai
Member
+186|6362

HellHead wrote:

They way you think, the way you feel, the way you see other people and the way you judge realtionships. 10 years later you will look back on this story here and think "Hell, I was young and stupid back then."
Believe me, been there, done that.
Yes Ryan, in a few years time you'll be a bittered old man, maintaining a cavalier attitude towards women and slushing away your evenings with Scotch

HellHead wrote:

So go on, do your thing, but remember : Try to justify and back up every desicion you make with your own concience. Nothing sucks more, than realising that you decided out of the wrong reason (especially feelings) and running yourself into "Regret-land".
In my opinion, if you have to justify your actions, they're probably wrong. It should be the other way around: you do something because you know it's right, you shouldn't do something and then afterwards start reasoning about why it was right. Likewise if you have to force yourself away (emotionally) from a girl, that's probably not right either.



(Hmmm,.. having read what I just typed, I realise I am somewhat of a hypocrit )
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|6920|Germany
Forcing yourself away from a girl that is nothing but trouble and constantlly fucks with your head and your heart, sometimes is the only way to stay mentally sane, believe me.
phonephreak
Member
+2|6178|Washington, USA
HellHead where were you a year ago when I was going through this shit? I had to learn it all the hard way... I ended up going with your "Hard Way", that was a little over  a year ago.. Still miss the girl like crazy, but thats what i get for getting attached to young. I'm only 17 at the moment but I'v gone through this one.. The longer you take to stand up for yourself and have her decide who's more important, the harder it'll be on you and the more it'll hurt..
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|6920|Germany

phonephreak wrote:

HellHead where were you a year ago when I was going through this shit? I had to learn it all the hard way... I ended up going with your "Hard Way", that was a little over  a year ago.. Still miss the girl like crazy, but thats what i get for getting attached to young. I'm only 17 at the moment but I'v gone through this one.. The longer you take to stand up for yourself and have her decide who's more important, the harder it'll be on you and the more it'll hurt..
Well, be glad you went through it while you were still that young. Wounds like those heal faster the younger you are, and make you a lot wiser for the upcoming shit you will go through in your twenties.
MrCookie
good times
+31|6208|In a wheelchair.

bennisboy wrote:

The thing about "seeing what happens" is bullshit. Its up to them to make their mind up, nothing will chamge if they jus wait for it to change.

As for "can't keep doing this." you almost definitely will, no matter how hard you try to stop yourself from caring (which you might not even wanna do), there's something about her that no-one else can see, that will keep you comin back to try again. Even if you dont see her for a couple of months, meet new people, then come back thinking your over her, you wont be. (I know, its happened to me every time I've gone back home from uni n seen this girl)

Basically, love fucks with your head, n it will keep doing it. But try not to let it get you down.
thats deep! and so true!
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|6773|British Columbia, Canada
Well..

K, this morning I was in a really shitty mood.. I read this thread right before I had to go to school, which got my emotions going..

I got into my truck, and started driving to school, I parked in the School Parking lot, stepped out of my truck, grabbed my bag, and then she pulled up a few cars away.. I looked at her, and she kinda looked upset.. At this point, I'm just like.. fuck this I can't deal with this shit, and I don't want to right before I have class, so I turned around, and walked the other way.. she went over the over-pass to our school and I waited at the light to cross the street...

So then I'm sitting in class, thinking about her.. I was contemplating on whether I should go up to where I usually hang out with my friends during our 15 min break.. My friend ask me if I'm coming... I'm like, sure I guess, she can tell I'm in a bad mood, and she doesn't say anything to me..

So I get there, I sit down on top of some lockers, Lindsey looks at me, and waves, I wave back.. And then she motions for me to come to her and we walk away from our group of friends so that we can "talk"... At this point, I'm just like " aww fuck.. here it comes, she's gonna say something like I can't be with you"... and then she says "So me and Scott (her current.. or ex? BF) are taking a break"..

It was awkward as fuck.. I'm just like.. "oh... I don't know if I should be happy or sad right now??" and then shes like.. "well, ya.. I just thought you would want to know.." and then I said "Ya, I do.. thanks for telling me.."  And then we go back to our group of friends.. I sit there for a few minutes just to myself, and then grab my bag and walk away, I told her I was going to see my friend as I have off-block, which is why I'm writing this now.. I came with him to my house just so I could update this.. lol

She no longer "dating" her BF.. but what does this mean for me?

I'll update this thread after I get home from school..
bennisboy
Member
+829|6857|Poundland

LT.Victim wrote:

Well..

K, this morning I was in a really shitty mood.. I read this thread right before I had to go to school, which got my emotions going..

I got into my truck, and started driving to school, I parked in the School Parking lot, stepped out of my truck, grabbed my bag, and then she pulled up a few cars away.. I looked at her, and she kinda looked upset.. At this point, I'm just like.. fuck this I can't deal with this shit, and I don't want to right before I have class, so I turned around, and walked the other way.. she went over the over-pass to our school and I waited at the light to cross the street...

So then I'm sitting in class, thinking about her.. I was contemplating on whether I should go up to where I usually hang out with my friends during our 15 min break.. My friend ask me if I'm coming... I'm like, sure I guess, she can tell I'm in a bad mood, and she doesn't say anything to me..

So I get there, I sit down on top of some lockers, Lindsey looks at me, and waves, I wave back.. And then she motions for me to come to her and we walk away from our group of friends so that we can "talk"... At this point, I'm just like " aww fuck.. here it comes, she's gonna say something like I can't be with you"... and then she says "So me and Scott (her current.. or ex? BF) are taking a break"..

It was awkward as fuck.. I'm just like.. "oh... I don't know if I should be happy or sad right now??" and then shes like.. "well, ya.. I just thought you would want to know.." and then I said "Ya, I do.. thanks for telling me.."  And then we go back to our group of friends.. I sit there for a few minutes just to myself, and then grab my bag and walk away, I told her I was going to see my friend as I have off-block, which is why I'm writing this now.. I came with him to my house just so I could update this.. lol

She no longer "dating" her BF.. but what does this mean for me?

I'll update this thread after I get home from school..
Damn boy, this happened to me as well, jus try to seize the chance. Don't get over hyped tho, you might jus set yourself up for a fall.
Lai
Member
+186|6362
My, Canadians are queer, going back to school at 21:00,..

LT.Victim wrote:

She no longer "dating" her BF.. but what does this mean for me?

I'll update this thread after I get home from school..
It means progress.

Don't get all jumpy now though; it is patience and persistance that got you/Lindsey/you(plural) to this point, so stick to that. Like Bennis said, don't get "overconfident", you're not there yet.

Considering she's following this topic as well (FFS, Lt. you've made it quite difficult for the replying posters as well ), @Lindsey: I/we may at times sound a bit cheering about your doubts and troubles, but do realise this is the FC Ryan supporters club. As they would say in the good ol'days: "we humbly besiege thee to forgive us our boldness"
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6882|UK
Seize the day

But go slowly but surely....
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Lieutenant_Jensen
Your cops are corrupt.
+200|6602|fåking denmark

Lai wrote:

My, Canadians are queer, going back to school at 21:00,..

LT.Victim wrote:

She no longer "dating" her BF.. but what does this mean for me?

I'll update this thread after I get home from school..
It means progress.

Don't get all jumpy now though; it is patience and persistance that got you/Lindsey/you(plural) to this point, so stick to that. Like Bennis said, don't get "overconfident", you're not there yet.

Considering she's following this topic as well (FFS, Lt. you've made it quite difficult for the replying posters as well ), @Lindsey: I/we may at times sound a bit cheering about your doubts and troubles, but do realise this is the FC Ryan supporters club. As they would say in the good ol'days: "we humbly besiege thee to forgive us our boldness"
You do know that Canada are GMT-6/7 or something?
Lai
Member
+186|6362

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

You do know that Canada are GMT-6/7 or something?
Lol, I do,.. you could have deducted that from the lunch and bagel posts above
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6950|Toronto | Canada

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

You do know that Canada are GMT-6/7 or something?
You do know that Canada has more than one time zone?
henno13
A generally unremarkable member
+230|6559|Belfast

LT.Victim wrote:

Well..

K, this morning I was in a really shitty mood.. I read this thread right before I had to go to school, which got my emotions going..

I got into my truck, and started driving to school, I parked in the School Parking lot, stepped out of my truck, grabbed my bag, and then she pulled up a few cars away.. I looked at her, and she kinda looked upset.. At this point, I'm just like.. fuck this I can't deal with this shit, and I don't want to right before I have class, so I turned around, and walked the other way.. she went over the over-pass to our school and I waited at the light to cross the street...

So then I'm sitting in class, thinking about her.. I was contemplating on whether I should go up to where I usually hang out with my friends during our 15 min break.. My friend ask me if I'm coming... I'm like, sure I guess, she can tell I'm in a bad mood, and she doesn't say anything to me..

So I get there, I sit down on top of some lockers, Lindsey looks at me, and waves, I wave back.. And then she motions for me to come to her and we walk away from our group of friends so that we can "talk"... At this point, I'm just like " aww fuck.. here it comes, she's gonna say something like I can't be with you"... and then she says "So me and Scott (her current.. or ex? BF) are taking a break"..

It was awkward as fuck.. I'm just like.. "oh... I don't know if I should be happy or sad right now??" and then shes like.. "well, ya.. I just thought you would want to know.." and then I said "Ya, I do.. thanks for telling me.."  And then we go back to our group of friends.. I sit there for a few minutes just to myself, and then grab my bag and walk away, I told her I was going to see my friend as I have off-block, which is why I'm writing this now.. I came with him to my house just so I could update this.. lol

She no longer "dating" her BF.. but what does this mean for me?

I'll update this thread after I get home from school..
good or bad sign ?
i dont know
Ilocano
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Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|6967|Scotland

The "nudge nudge" basically means that she wants to be with you. Maybe spend more time or actually "be" with you. I don't know because I don't know the girl, but from the looks of it, she broke it up and she was telling you because she knew you would be happy ( maybe not showing the emotion here or to her, but I can tell you are ).
The fact that she wanted to tell you when you were with your friends and she was with hers means it means a lot to her for you to know. Which, in turn, means that you mean more to her than just the average joe. Think over it.

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