BF2S Forums This is selfish to hover the Gunship idle is a waste. A lot can happen

I am a decent commander, I try to get UAV's, Supplies and scans constantly going. I will watch over a squad trying to cap a flag and call out enemies, alert them to arty drops, etc...

As far as flying, I am okay with a Jet, but the Attack Helo's, I hate em. And you can't learn, because everyone wants to fly them, even rook pilots wo crash after 15 seconds. Let em rephrase that, I can fly them just fine, but hitting anything I fire at is a different story.

I think it's OK if the commander commands and flies a Helicopter, but not if he is flying a jet.

I'm not a very good commander W/L wise (maybe it's because I get stuck with shitty teams...) but I sure as hell know to stay out of flying vehicles when commanding.  It's ridiculous to even attempt to do that if you want to actually command.

As soon as I see a commander running for a jet or attack chopper, I initiate a mutiny.  Commanding in the Blackhawk is different, though.  I've helped a commander do that on Wake (we were both on Teamspeak).  If you fly him far enough out, no one will bother either one of us.

I've yet to see a commander play and command at the same time and do it well.  There was a USMC commander yesterday in Karkand that stayed at his home base and hid in the tank.  We were getting beat up pretty good because we had no armor to take on the MEC armor.  After asking the kid to either resign command or to release the tank he continued to say no.  I persuaded him leave the armor with a little C4 and we went on to take all the flags and drive MEC back to existance challenged status!

i also voted no since its not possible to command effectively in an air vehicle except as passenger. but even as a gunner in an attack chopper is only minimum efficency.

anyway its possible to do a decent job in a vehicle but only for short times. when i see that my team is dominating and i have an idle vehicle at my base i use it and help in the field but when i die i go back to hiding also to make up for the boredom of commanding since i need some action from time to time.
sometimes i even bring the tank to the front lines and give it to someone else wich mostly meets disbelieving from a lot of players

In my opinion commanders should not try to do their job and fly at the same time.

1. When you fly you can't command as well as normally. You should try to spot all enemies after a scan while flying.

2. You blockade the helo, jet and even the tank. It's better when your mates use them because they can better concentrate at using them.

3. You get no points for kills or flag captures... as commander. So when you blockade such a vehicle your team gets less points, ergo your score is less too.

Blown out off the Water... now who is a Fool ?

Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.

Hovering for a few seconds to get someone supplies or drop arty or start a UAV don't take very long.  Commanders should not camp and stare at the commander screen.  I feel I win most games I command because I am active whether it be in the air or on the ground.  If the commander has taken a role to battle along side his troops he helps his team by being an extra attacker especially if the opposing commander is doing the CAMP thing like most narrow minded less skillful people think he should do.  I do the same thing in a Tank or APC that I can in a jet or a chopper.  To say it shouldn't be done means A.  you don't have the skill to do it yourself  or B.  you can't imagine someone else having the ability to multi-task.   Scans arent as importnt as the later simply because most the time i spot for my team they just dont watch their radar/mini-map at all.   
Which also explains why certain people will drive or walk into arty strikes on a regular basis.  Same as when you direct squads and they just don't defend or go attack things when you call them out and they are literally right next to them.  Most times you play on a server you got prolly %30 noobs %50 vets or clans doing their thing and %20 people doing their own thing to get badges and ribbons not caring about the game outcome anyway.  So with maybe half the people on your team actually being commandable to begin with you can over look certain areas of commanding.  It doesnt take long to notice when you get a good squad following orders and I love nothing better than to spot it up for them with scans and UAVs.

My point is - It is not selfish to be a commander and utilize vehicles.  I am great in a chopper and decent in a jet.  I get commander whenever i want it usually since my rnak is so high.  By no means am I gonna camp and rely on my team with maybe half of them worth commanding.  i have learned to take an active role as a commander and that leads to more victory's HANDS DOWN.

Heres your sign.

^DD^GRiPS wrote:

Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.

My point is - It is not selfish to be a commander and utilize vehicles.  I am great in a chopper and decent in a jet.  I get commander whenever i want it usually since my rnak is so high.  By no means am I gonna camp and rely on my team with maybe half of them worth commanding.  i have learned to take an active role as a commander and that leads to more victory's HANDS DOWN.

Heres your sign.

You seem to be a big opinion

Truth is you have seen people do it and not do it well.  i am here to say I DO THIS WELL and will continue to do it because since i started I win prolly 80% of the games I command(i wish the stats kept track of this i would like to know the real number).  All I have to say is come play a game with me and see for yourself.  i know most of you can't fathom this idea because others have done so terrible at it.  JUST KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.

Umm. Maybe a commander is supposed to come up with a valid, solid strategy for the team to win? Not just be the UAV/Supply/Arty provider?

But I tend to agree with Grips on this. In public games you have the grand total of TWO squads to command that LOOSELY follow orders. So i'll fuck it, get in an F-15 and command from the skies.

I've yet to learn how to scan in a plane without having to wrestle control back later though. Any Ideas?

then you won't get all the assist points you've been leeching off me