Antilag is shit

2007-12-07 16:01:48

#1

Aries_37: arrivederci frog; +368|6794|London

For those that don't know, COD4 has a shitty 'ping balancing' mechanism called antilag. As of 1.3 it is now forced on all servers. What it basically does is try to make it fairer for high pingers by making it easier for them to kill things (I won't go into the technical side of what's happening).
It lets them kill you even when to you it looks like you've gone round corners, and it makes it damn hard to hit them if they're moving. What retard at IW decided to put this in the game? Discuss.

2007-12-07 16:04:30

#2

TheEternalPessimist: Wibble; +412|6839|Mhz

Sounds just like Bf2 to me lol.

2007-12-07 16:09:18

#3

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7062|Reykjavík, Iceland.

If people with 20 ping are having as crap latency as my 100 ping, I say: Great Success!!

2007-12-07 16:31:35

#4

bennisboy: Member; +829|6865|Poundland

lol, I've noticed that as well, I'm round a corner and get shot, reply show him shooting behind me and killing me!
Ah well jeremy, I'm sure your keen self will adapt to it

2007-12-07 16:33:38

#5

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7062|Reykjavík, Iceland.

bennisboy wrote:
lol, I've noticed that as well, I'm round a corner and get shot, reply show him shooting behind me and killing me!
Ah well jeremy, I'm sure your keen self will adapt to it

So, if I understand you correctly: It's annoying that high pingers have an equal chance to down moving targets as low pingers?

He might show like he's shooting behind the target because of his ping, but I betcha he actually has his crosshairs right over you.

It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!

2007-12-08 03:53:15

#6

Aries_37: arrivederci frog; +368|6794|London

IW says this is how antilag works:

'It's not broken prediction code. It's an after-the-fact antilag system. Basically, the server keeps a log of the last 500 ms (or however long the buffer is) of server frames. When the server recieves the packet from your client that said you fired your gun, it looks back to the frame that corresponds to the time that you fired your gun. Basically the equation is present time - ping = server frame time. The trace is performed and if you hit another player, the damage is applied. Because there isn't parity between the current client frame and the old server frame you can't see exactly where the player is aiming unless you are that client. When spectating somebody, your client is sent the current server frame and when they shoot somebody your client doesn't do the same frame backtracking so it appears that they aren't directly aimed at their victim. This wasn't an issue in CoD because there wasn't this type of antilag system present. There are some other anomalies that occur with higher latency as well (i.e. getting shot around corners).'

Basically if to the high pinger it looks like they're hitting, they'll hit...even if in reality you're a mile around the corner behind fifty feet of concrete
Some might say this is fair, but for the low pingers who get killed with nothing they can do about it this sucks

2007-12-08 06:00:38

#7

bennisboy: Member; +829|6865|Poundland

PBAsydney wrote:
bennisboy wrote:
lol, I've noticed that as well, I'm round a corner and get shot, reply show him shooting behind me and killing me!
Ah well jeremy, I'm sure your keen self will adapt to it
So, if I understand you correctly: It's annoying that high pingers have an equal chance to down moving targets as low pingers?

He might show like he's shooting behind the target because of his ping, but I betcha he actually has his crosshairs right over you.

It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!

Well its a bit gay as I'll be around the corner and get shot by someone the other side of the corner

2007-12-08 07:07:38

#8

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7062|Reykjavík, Iceland.

bennisboy wrote:
PBAsydney wrote:
bennisboy wrote:
lol, I've noticed that as well, I'm round a corner and get shot, reply show him shooting behind me and killing me!
Ah well jeremy, I'm sure your keen self will adapt to it
So, if I understand you correctly: It's annoying that high pingers have an equal chance to down moving targets as low pingers?

He might show like he's shooting behind the target because of his ping, but I betcha he actually has his crosshairs right over you.

It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!
Well its a bit gay as I'll be around the corner and get shot by someone the other side of the corner

LOL, that's exactly why they put anti-lag in, so this won't happen ONLY to high pingers.

2007-12-08 07:39:03

#9

ig: This topic seems to have no actual posts; +1,199|6741

/cl_maxpackets 100

dropped my ping by an avg. of 15

2007-12-08 07:41:58

#10

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6784|Area 51

Then instead of playing on a low ping server go play on a high ping server, problem solved.

2007-12-08 16:46:21

#11

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6893|Canberra, AUS

I get 150 ping to servers 300km away (so I should be getting roughly 40 ping). Combined with an average FPS of 12, this leaves me a blatant disadvantage in close-quarters combat (and even at longer range...)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2007-12-08 18:13:28

#12

Megalomaniac: Formerly known as Missionless; +92|6546|105 RVK

Sniping is fun now

2007-12-08 18:32:05

#13

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6375|Vancouver | Canada

Missionless wrote:
Sniping is fun now

Yeah, it is.

More easy stationary targets for me.

2007-12-08 20:35:08

#14

Hallvard: Member; +263|6741|North Norway

PBAsydney wrote:
It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!

2007-12-09 03:10:12

#15

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|6999|Great Brown North

oh well, this is why kicking anyone with higher than 200 is ftw

2007-12-09 03:19:27

#16

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7062|Reykjavík, Iceland.

I just love it when you filter by ping, find the server with the lowest ping (being around 100 something) and you get "Server is for low ping players only".

2007-12-09 04:06:47

#17

gene_pool: Banned; +519|6840|Gold coast, Aus.

Hallvard wrote:
PBAsydney wrote:
It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!

Do you guys play on servers on the other side of the world or something? I have a mate who is on 256kbs, he gets 50 ping average, on servers across two states and a straight....

Personally I think this is stupid. If you have high ping, find a closer server. If there are no closer servers, bl, you shouldn't get an advantage over people who have lower ping....

2007-12-09 12:37:14

#18

Hallvard: Member; +263|6741|North Norway

no matter what server I join I will always have 100+ ping... even tough both xfire and the serverlist say I have below 40 on that server

2007-12-09 12:41:22

#19

PspRpg-7: -; +961|6917

Here's a solution to high pingers: play on servers close to home. If that's not good enough. Get better internet.

2007-12-09 13:40:25

#20

gene_pool: Banned; +519|6840|Gold coast, Aus.

Hallvard wrote:
no matter what server I join I will always have 100+ ping... even tough both xfire and the serverlist say I have below 40 on that server

scoreboard ping =/= physical ping.

I get 70-80 ping on CoD4 servers, but my _actual_ ping to the server is around 20-40....

2007-12-09 13:51:53

#21

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7062|Reykjavík, Iceland.

PspRpg-7 wrote:
Here's a solution to high pingers: play on servers close to home. If that's not good enough. Get better internet.

Wouldn't matter since the closest server is a few thousand km away from me.

2007-12-09 18:45:32

#22

Not: Great success!; +216|6795|Chandler, AZ

Antilag means west coasters are back.

2007-12-10 00:29:47

#23

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7062|Reykjavík, Iceland.

gene_pool wrote:
Hallvard wrote:
PBAsydney wrote:
It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!
Do you guys play on servers on the other side of the world or something? I have a mate who is on 256kbs, he gets 50 ping average, on servers across two states and a straight....

Personally I think this is stupid. If you have high ping, find a closer server. If there are no closer servers, bl, you shouldn't get an advantage over people who have lower ping....

lol, we don't get an advantage over people with low ping, you LOSE the advantage over people with high ping.

2007-12-10 05:51:33

#24

Sarrk: O-O-O A-O A; +788|6874|Brisbane, Australia

gene_pool wrote:
Hallvard wrote:
PBAsydney wrote:
It is time for the fall of low pingers! HIGH PINGERS WILL RISE!
Do you guys play on servers on the other side of the world or something? I have a mate who is on 256kbs, he gets 50 ping average, on servers across two states and a straight....

Personally I think this is stupid. If you have high ping, find a closer server. If there are no closer servers, bl, you shouldn't get an advantage over people who have lower ping....

That sounds like me :\

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