Ricerckt93
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+69|6957
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FTW   
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6970|NT, like Mick Dundee

Lotus Eclise....

Mmmm. Yummy. Best, turning circle evaaar. Rofl when they paired an Eclise off against a Longbow on TopGear.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
delta4bravo*nl*
Dutch Delight
+68|7057
US cars are losing going to have bad sales in Holland next year.
Our shit government has decided on a Slurp Tax, all cars that use a lot of gas will be heavily taxed.... needles to say what Will happen to the us cars.
the Hummer H2 will be €30000 more starting 2008.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6842|Long Island, New York
Because the 300c is sleek and sexy. I'm saving up to get one. Working for a year, but meh. It'll be worth it.

https://www.chrysler.co.za/300c/img/300_home.jpg

It's like a Cadillac, a Chrysler and a Rolls Royce had a baby and named it after the 300 spartans because it's so badass.
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6591|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

M.O.A.B wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

No, expensive/exclusive US cars were always popular. It's just the mainstream US cars were always shit and never sold outside of N.America.
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....

And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...

A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)

And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?

2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ?   imho
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6591|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Poseidon wrote:

Because the 300c is sleek and sexy. I'm saving up to get one. Working for a year, but meh. It'll be worth it.

http://www.chrysler.co.za/300c/img/300_home.jpg

It's like a Cadillac, a Chrysler and a Rolls Royce had a baby and named it after the 300 spartans because it's so badass.
Might look cool... untill you look at the gas consumption -.-

I'll take a fuel cell (yes thats hydrogen) honda over that thing any day too !
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6990|United States of America

Flecco wrote:

Lotus Eclise....

Mmmm. Yummy. Best, turning circle evaaar. Rofl when they paired an Eclise off against a Longbow on TopGear.
Did you just make the words Eclipse and Elise have teh sechs to become Eclise?

Last edited by DesertFox- (2007-11-28 04:45:37)

jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

DesertFox- wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Lotus Eclise....

Mmmm. Yummy. Best, turning circle evaaar. Rofl when they paired an Eclise off against a Longbow on TopGear.
Did you just make the words Eclipse and Elise have teh sechs to become Eclise?
It was a Lotus Exige anyway.

GAWD!
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England

FloppY_ wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

No, expensive/exclusive US cars were always popular. It's just the mainstream US cars were always shit and never sold outside of N.America.
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....

And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...

A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)

And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?

2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ?   imho
Pretty much. They're horribly ineffecient. Also they don't seem to go for good power/weight ratios. It was always because up until recently fuel was as cheap as water for them, so they didn't need to. So they built massive cars and stuff, didn't care about fuel consumption. And now small effecient cars won't pass American safety tests because they're too vulnerable on a road full of SUV's and automobile equivalents of Abrams tanks. So they're stuck in a loop and the best they can get from it is an SUV that gets 22mpg.
baggs
Member
+732|6509
The picture of that Exige made me go in my pants a little, ive been thinking about buying one

OT: 300c is pretty nice, if youre a fun of heavly influenced cheap plastic looking interiors then american cars are for you. In fact i think you will find the 300c is built on the old Merc S class chassis, a reason to why its a big old bastard!

There has been a concerted push for the Amercian market cars in my local area thats for sure, we do a lot of work for the Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge dealership and tbh the build quality is pretty good on them now compared to the old import shit we sometimes work on.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6528|Escea

FloppY_ wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

No, expensive/exclusive US cars were always popular. It's just the mainstream US cars were always shit and never sold outside of N.America.
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....

And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...

A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)

And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?

2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ?   imho
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6827|...

German > Japanaese > US > British
Teamsreth
Complete Tanker
+17|7148|England

M.O.A.B wrote:

I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
I agree that the lazy throbbing idle, and low rev noise of an Amerivan V8 is nice. But the High rev howl of the Italians flat-plane cracnk V8's is awesome. Nearly as good as a well looked after, properly set up straight six. *Drools*

Wasn't the buick V8 the one that was sold to rover and became the Rover V8 that went in almost anything that moved?


jsnipy wrote:

German > Japanaese > US > British
Apart from small sportscar manufacturers, what else do us Brits make? I know we put together a load of cars, but next to nothing is Brit owned these days. Ultima, Noble, and without looking, I am struggling.

I think the build quality follows this sort of pattern though. Just with the USA and UK together.

Mekstizzle wrote:

..... best they can get from it is an SUV that gets 22mpg.
I wish I could get that from my car. Which is why she has done 3200 miles in 12 months!

Last edited by Teamsreth (2007-11-28 10:21:56)

DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6936|Finland

jsnipy wrote:

German > Japanaese > US > British
Teh truth.

*goes out to the balcony, looks at his piece of german engineering, realizes that everyone makes fun of Opel, comes back to his PC, sheds a tear of depression, writes what he just did between asterisks*

IMO E.g. Chryslers attempt to penetrate the European market is a huge failure. For instance, Dodge Nitro and Caliber look like mini-yanks, kinda fun in the beginning, but then you see the details. It looks cheap, it feels cheap, and that's probably because it is cheap. Hard plastic, shitty detailing, uncomfortable seats etc..

Examples: Caliber (Dodge/Chrysler) vs. Astra (Opel/Vauxhall)
I need around tree fiddy.
jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

jsnipy wrote:

German > Japanaese > US > British
Wrong.

You should of gone with European. Italy makes the best sports cars in the world. An Alfa Romeo coupés and saloons aren't bad. France as well is pretty good. Us might be slightly infront of Britain on mainstream cars. It's close, but neither excel at the average persons car. America is mostly Pick-ups and SUV'S as well as Muscle and we're mostly sports and luxury.
Teamsreth
Complete Tanker
+17|7148|England

jord wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

German > Japanaese > US > British
An Alfa Romeo coupés and saloons aren't bad.
Until it goes wrong, at which point you are placed in the dealer network. I deal with that network on occasion. And if it wasn't part of my job, I would never touch them.

Also, put a german car next to a french one and tell me which ones best. A new one or a 12 yr old one. They cost more for a reason.
jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

Teamsreth wrote:

jord wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

German > Japanaese > US > British
An Alfa Romeo coupés and saloons aren't bad.
Until it goes wrong, at which point you are placed in the dealer network. I deal with that network on occasion. And if it wasn't part of my job, I would never touch them.

Also, put a german car next to a french one and tell me which ones best. A new one or a 12 yr old one. They cost more for a reason.
I know German cars are better at what they do, Luxury saloons.Peugeot still excel at hatchbacks, which as a whole class are cheaper.
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6591|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

M.O.A.B wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....

And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...

A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)

And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?

2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ?   imho
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
BlackKoala
Member
+215|6630

FloppY_ wrote:

Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...
You my friend have obviously not been behind the wheel of a car in which the engine makes you hard.  Here, I'll make it easy for you...

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6528|Escea

FloppY_ wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:


Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....

And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...

A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)

And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?

2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ?   imho
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...
Then its best not to use a car at all then for economic and ecology reasons, no matter what their mileage or engine performance every car has an impact.
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6591|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

M.O.A.B wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...
Then its best not to use a car at all then for economic and ecology reasons, no matter what their mileage or engine performance every car has an impact.
I know that,, that is why i want to minimize the impact... and tbh i want the car to look good too so no "prius" for me,,
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6591|eng

Gawwad wrote:

Only the C-300 is popular here in Finland. Atleast in my experience.
The car sucks appart from the looks though, too big and clumsy.

The cheap dollar brings the prices down quite a bit, so they might become more popular over time.
On the other hand after the car taxes were revised (based on emissions now) some prices might end up increasing.
Actually it's a really nice car, better than Mercedes.

Not better than Audi though.

Audi > BMW.
#rekt
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6591|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

mint-sauce-41 wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

Only the C-300 is popular here in Finland. Atleast in my experience.
The car sucks appart from the looks though, too big and clumsy.

The cheap dollar brings the prices down quite a bit, so they might become more popular over time.
On the other hand after the car taxes were revised (based on emissions now) some prices might end up increasing.
Actually it's a really nice car, better than Mercedes.

Not better than Audi though.

Audi > BMW.
Audi = BMW > Mercedes > etc.
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
cian1500ww
Member
+8|6304|Ireland
I hope not. They're gas guzzlers and with the increasing price of petrol and the higher taxes on large engines they would be a costly piece of kit.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7025|California

BlackKoala wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...
You my friend have obviously not been behind the wheel of a car in which the engine makes you hard.  Here, I'll make it easy for you...

I came.



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