
FTW
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....M.O.A.B wrote:
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.Mekstizzle wrote:
No, expensive/exclusive US cars were always popular. It's just the mainstream US cars were always shit and never sold outside of N.America.
Might look cool... untill you look at the gas consumption -.-Poseidon wrote:
Because the 300c is sleek and sexy. I'm saving up to get one. Working for a year, but meh. It'll be worth it.
http://www.chrysler.co.za/300c/img/300_home.jpg
It's like a Cadillac, a Chrysler and a Rolls Royce had a baby and named it after the 300 spartans because it's so badass.
Did you just make the words Eclipse and Elise have teh sechs to become Eclise?Flecco wrote:
Lotus Eclise....
Mmmm. Yummy. Best, turning circle evaaar. Rofl when they paired an Eclise off against a Longbow on TopGear.
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It was a Lotus Exige anyway.DesertFox- wrote:
Did you just make the words Eclipse and Elise have teh sechs to become Eclise?Flecco wrote:
Lotus Eclise....
Mmmm. Yummy. Best, turning circle evaaar. Rofl when they paired an Eclise off against a Longbow on TopGear.
Pretty much. They're horribly ineffecient. Also they don't seem to go for good power/weight ratios. It was always because up until recently fuel was as cheap as water for them, so they didn't need to. So they built massive cars and stuff, didn't care about fuel consumption. And now small effecient cars won't pass American safety tests because they're too vulnerable on a road full of SUV's and automobile equivalents of Abrams tanks. So they're stuck in a loop and the best they can get from it is an SUV that gets 22mpg.FloppY_ wrote:
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....M.O.A.B wrote:
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.Mekstizzle wrote:
No, expensive/exclusive US cars were always popular. It's just the mainstream US cars were always shit and never sold outside of N.America.
And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...
A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)
And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?
2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ? imho
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.FloppY_ wrote:
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....M.O.A.B wrote:
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.Mekstizzle wrote:
No, expensive/exclusive US cars were always popular. It's just the mainstream US cars were always shit and never sold outside of N.America.
And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...
A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)
And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?
2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ? imho
I agree that the lazy throbbing idle, and low rev noise of an Amerivan V8 is nice. But the High rev howl of the Italians flat-plane cracnk V8's is awesome. Nearly as good as a well looked after, properly set up straight six. *Drools*M.O.A.B wrote:
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
Apart from small sportscar manufacturers, what else do us Brits make? I know we put together a load of cars, but next to nothing is Brit owned these days. Ultima, Noble, and without looking, I am struggling.jsnipy wrote:
German > Japanaese > US > British
I wish I could get that from my car. Which is why she has done 3200 miles in 12 months!Mekstizzle wrote:
..... best they can get from it is an SUV that gets 22mpg.
Last edited by Teamsreth (2007-11-28 10:21:56)
Teh truth.jsnipy wrote:
German > Japanaese > US > British
Wrong.jsnipy wrote:
German > Japanaese > US > British
Until it goes wrong, at which point you are placed in the dealer network. I deal with that network on occasion. And if it wasn't part of my job, I would never touch them.jord wrote:
An Alfa Romeo coupés and saloons aren't bad.jsnipy wrote:
German > Japanaese > US > British
I know German cars are better at what they do, Luxury saloons.Peugeot still excel at hatchbacks, which as a whole class are cheaper.Teamsreth wrote:
Until it goes wrong, at which point you are placed in the dealer network. I deal with that network on occasion. And if it wasn't part of my job, I would never touch them.jord wrote:
An Alfa Romeo coupés and saloons aren't bad.jsnipy wrote:
German > Japanaese > US > British
Also, put a german car next to a french one and tell me which ones best. A new one or a 12 yr old one. They cost more for a reason.
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...M.O.A.B wrote:
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.FloppY_ wrote:
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....M.O.A.B wrote:
Things like the 300C and stuff are less expensive than a lot of European counterpart cars, like BM's and Mercs.
And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...
A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)
And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?
2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ? imho
You my friend have obviously not been behind the wheel of a car in which the engine makes you hard. Here, I'll make it easy for you...FloppY_ wrote:
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...
Then its best not to use a car at all then for economic and ecology reasons, no matter what their mileage or engine performance every car has an impact.FloppY_ wrote:
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...M.O.A.B wrote:
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.FloppY_ wrote:
Untill you ship them to the EU, then they cost more....
And tbh
German car quality >>>>>>> US car quality
...
A dodge/caddilac feels cheap compared to a BMW or a Merc and costs the same (over here)
Tbh i would take a Suzuki over a US car any day if i were to pay for it myself.... (yes thats how little i think of US cars)
And btw: why do you americans build cars with HUGE CC's that just use fuel faster than you can fill it in,, instead of having a finely tuned (and lighter) enige with the same power and half the gas consumption ?
2000cc turbo tuned import engine > 6000cc US petrol spitter ? imho
I know that,, that is why i want to minimize the impact... and tbh i want the car to look good too so no "prius" for me,,M.O.A.B wrote:
Then its best not to use a car at all then for economic and ecology reasons, no matter what their mileage or engine performance every car has an impact.FloppY_ wrote:
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...M.O.A.B wrote:
I'd still rather have an American V8 engine over any other, best sounding engine ever created, I have also seen something before that stated the best engine ever created was a Buick's engine.
Actually it's a really nice car, better than Mercedes.Gawwad wrote:
Only the C-300 is popular here in Finland. Atleast in my experience.
The car sucks appart from the looks though, too big and clumsy.
The cheap dollar brings the prices down quite a bit, so they might become more popular over time.
On the other hand after the car taxes were revised (based on emissions now) some prices might end up increasing.
Audi = BMW > Mercedes > etc.mint-sauce-41 wrote:
Actually it's a really nice car, better than Mercedes.Gawwad wrote:
Only the C-300 is popular here in Finland. Atleast in my experience.
The car sucks appart from the looks though, too big and clumsy.
The cheap dollar brings the prices down quite a bit, so they might become more popular over time.
On the other hand after the car taxes were revised (based on emissions now) some prices might end up increasing.
Not better than Audi though.
Audi > BMW.
I came.BlackKoala wrote:
You my friend have obviously not been behind the wheel of a car in which the engine makes you hard. Here, I'll make it easy for you...FloppY_ wrote:
Don't care,, i will take economy and ecology over "sound" any day...