its a personal choice made by someone with a mental disorder who claims its a genetic condition.
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What is Homosexuality?
| A genetic condition | 28% | 28% - 82 | ||||
| A personal choice | 36% | 36% - 104 | ||||
| A mental disorder | 26% | 26% - 75 | ||||
| Other | 9% | 9% - 27 | ||||
| Total: 288 | ||||||
On what evidence have you based your opinion?weasel_thingo wrote:
its a personal choice made by someone with a mental disorder who claims its a genetic condition.
really, its just a personal preference concerning what they would rather have sex with (penis, or vagina?).
think of it like this:
two people met over the internet, never told each other their sexes or personal preferences, and fell in love. one decided to fly out to meet the other for the first time, and when this person got there...she found out she was in love with another woman. it all comes down to which body part is more appealing, and considering that our genes tell us what to fuck, it probably comes down to that. if theres only one gene that controls it, and flipping it one way says dick and the other vagina, a mutation is fairly simple.
think of it like this:
two people met over the internet, never told each other their sexes or personal preferences, and fell in love. one decided to fly out to meet the other for the first time, and when this person got there...she found out she was in love with another woman. it all comes down to which body part is more appealing, and considering that our genes tell us what to fuck, it probably comes down to that. if theres only one gene that controls it, and flipping it one way says dick and the other vagina, a mutation is fairly simple.
If it were a mental/medical condition, would people take pride in it? Wouldn't they be trying to find a cure...I don't see retards marching down the street screaming about how proud they are demanding more rights.
It is a personal choice.
It is a personal choice.
unfortunately stupidity isn´t a personal choice...
does anyone in here knows homosexuals?
i know four gay people and you wouldn´t think, of two, that they are.
they didn´t choose it. they all had girlfriends before and tried a "normal" life, until they understood, that they won´t be happy with a girl, because they fell in love with other men.
if they could choose it, most of them wouldn´t, because they get discriminated even in "modern" times from dumbasses like they could be found in here.
did anyone of you choose, whom they fell in love with? you don´t have a choice. when you feel it, then it is this way. and if someone faces the truth and defends his gay nature against discrimination from narrowminded, then it is something, which he could be proud about - or did anyone of you ever tried to stand up alone against majority? facing the fact, that many people will point their finger on you?
as i said before: homosexuality is a natural phenomenon. animals and humans can be homo.
and from the antique greek until modern times, there always have been homosexual people.
accept it and tolerate it. enjoy your own sexuality and let others have theirs.
does anyone in here knows homosexuals?
i know four gay people and you wouldn´t think, of two, that they are.
they didn´t choose it. they all had girlfriends before and tried a "normal" life, until they understood, that they won´t be happy with a girl, because they fell in love with other men.
if they could choose it, most of them wouldn´t, because they get discriminated even in "modern" times from dumbasses like they could be found in here.
did anyone of you choose, whom they fell in love with? you don´t have a choice. when you feel it, then it is this way. and if someone faces the truth and defends his gay nature against discrimination from narrowminded, then it is something, which he could be proud about - or did anyone of you ever tried to stand up alone against majority? facing the fact, that many people will point their finger on you?
as i said before: homosexuality is a natural phenomenon. animals and humans can be homo.
and from the antique greek until modern times, there always have been homosexual people.
accept it and tolerate it. enjoy your own sexuality and let others have theirs.
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You're wrong. Do you want to know why homosexuality isn't rampant? Human nature and religion. Back when Australopithecus humans existed, we discovered the only way to reproduce was through man and woman. They were mostly concerned with one thing as primitive animals, survival. And the only way to continue the species was through intercourse with a man and a woman. This common understanding was later imbued with religious doctrine to make it 'official' as the word of God.chittydog wrote:
That's so stupid. If people were born with no sense of favoritism towards gender, homosexuality would be rampant and the population of the earth would be a fraction of the size it is now.Havok wrote:
It's a choice. I choose to be heterosexual. I was born with no sense of favoritism when dealing with sexuality. I was raised in a heterosexual family so it became the norm for me, especially because I never encountered any homosexuals until middle school. If I wanted to I could be homosexual. I would find it uncomfortable though, so I remain heterosexual.
Before voting, why don't you all go out and get to know a few gay people. A lot of them don't like being gay and would change if they could. Sure there are some who go both ways and some who are that way due to some psychological trauma, but the majority of them were born that way.
When Christianity and Islam, the two largest religions of modern day, were formed, they held a common belief that homosexuals were a disgrace to God. Within time, these two religions conquered most of the world. They shunned and sometimes killed homosexuals during the Middle Ages, and even in modern day Islam, it can be seen that homosexuals are sometimes stoned. In Europe, as the Enlightenment period progressed, religious authority dwindled in terms of politics and there was less religious persecution towards non-believers or heathens. This was the beginning of more freedom of expression; however, homosexuals were still disliked because Christian beliefs had become the norm.
In modern day society, atheism is at an all time high and traditional religious values are becoming meaningless. This is why there are more homosexuals than ever before. Religion is the main reason that the homosexual population was kept small throughout history.
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To answer your other statement, I do know a few homosexuals. One of my best friends is a lesbian and my mom's co-worker (a teacher) is gay. Both of them are amazing friends and I do not view them any lesser than I would any other person. Both of them also lived troubled childhood lives. I believe that if what you say about the homosexuals you know is true, that they don't like being gay and would change if they could, is a lie. It's like fat people saying they're genetically obese and that they can't change as the chow down at buffets. It's just laziness. Too lazy to change; too lazy to stand up for what they believe in.
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Anyone who believes that homosexuality is a choice has probably never had a prostate exam...
if you have the choice between being just a normal guy or making your mother cry and getting bullied by society for being different - i think, many would choose not being homo. take a look around and try to imagine, how hard times must have been for every homosexual to accept his sexuality, when every dumbass will point his finger on you?Havok wrote:
that they don't like being gay and would change if they could, is a lie.
i still like jokes about homosexuals, but i also make jokes about everything else... but there are still too many, who take others sexual preference too serious and speak like they want back to times of the spanish inquisition...
Lol. When did fish discover heterosexual reproduction? Birds? Insects?Havok wrote:
You're wrong. Do you want to know why homosexuality isn't rampant? Human nature and religion. Back when Australopithecus humans existed, we discovered the only way to reproduce was through man and woman.
Fixed. You don't know about homosexuals in previous decades (and centuries) because (a) you are ignorant and (b) they were viciously persecuted so they kept quiet. There is lots of research on homosexuals in history. There were tons.Havok wrote:
In modern day society, atheism is at an all time high and traditional religious values are becoming meaningless. This is why there are more homosexuals than ever before. Religion is the main reason that the homosexual population was kept hidden throughout history.
i know. i mean. does anyone ever really Over act being straight like some one who over acts being gay (queen)?Im_Dooomed wrote:
Either choice you pick, they're all still geay. I hate the gays who really love to LOOK gay in public.
If you ever do see that over acting straight guy(cuz you wont see a woman do that) he is viewed as a jerk/annoying drunk guy who probably sucks dick on the downlow.
If your straight or gay who cares, but why overdo it.
Ever notice that super Ghey Queens are usually fat white guys who act and talk like a super ghetto black girl and say things like "Nu-UH bitch, Oh no she didn't".
Then they get mad and accuse you of being a homophobe if they start shit with you & you talk shit back.
edit: its only gay if you kiss
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I've never seen a flyin human. Have you? Airplanes/Helicopters fly. Humans only take rides.san4 wrote:
And since humans weren't born with wings, flying also contradicts nature. So people who travel on airplanes have a mental disorder.rawls2 wrote:
It contradicts nature. At least nature the way it is suppossed to be. So I vote mental disorder.
Most people voted choice in the pull!?
WTF how stupid are people?
"I think I will become gay tomorrow and sudenly feel like blowing my friends"
OMG
WTF how stupid are people?
"I think I will become gay tomorrow and sudenly feel like blowing my friends"
OMG
Lets be friendstjocka_vita_kisset wrote:
Most people voted choice in the pull!?
WTF how stupid are people?
"I think I will become gay tomorrow and sudenly feel like blowing my friends"
OMG
so ......................... doing anything important tomorrowtjocka_vita_kisset wrote:
"I think I will become gay tomorrow and sudenly feel like blowing my friends"
LOOOOOOL +1SEREMAKER wrote:
so ......................... doing anything important tomorrowtjocka_vita_kisset wrote:
"I think I will become gay tomorrow and sudenly feel like blowing my friends"
I think it's none of those. I think you can be attracted to your own sex and suppress it. I think you can not be attracted to your own sex and think you are. I think that it is partially personal choice, but only partially.
-konfusion
I'd say sex is a 'ride' in a wayrawls2 wrote:
Humans only take rides.
-konfusion
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Mallard ducks, as a part of nature, have a high rate of homosexual relationships.rawls2 wrote:
It contradicts nature. At least nature the way it is suppossed to be. So I vote mental disorder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MallardsWikipedia wrote:
Mallards also have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds. In some cases, as many as 19% of pairs in a Mallard population are male-male homosexual (Bagemihl 1999).
I realize that I am quoting wikipedia, but there is a reputable source attached. Clearly homosexuality is a part of nature.
No one ever claimed nature was perfect. Even nature has it's defects.SenorToenails wrote:
Mallard ducks, as a part of nature, have a high rate of homosexual relationships.rawls2 wrote:
It contradicts nature. At least nature the way it is suppossed to be. So I vote mental disorder.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MallardsWikipedia wrote:
Mallards also have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds. In some cases, as many as 19% of pairs in a Mallard population are male-male homosexual (Bagemihl 1999).
I realize that I am quoting wikipedia, but there is a reputable source attached. Clearly homosexuality is a part of nature.
A socially driven choice, made in the subconscious.
it's simple, you don't like your opposite sex
Last edited by suomalainen_äijä (2007-07-25 14:01:38)
What is Homosexuality?
when you give another man *a good game* smack on the ass .................................... in the gym shower
when you give another man *a good game* smack on the ass .................................... in the gym shower
liking lesbiens is completely different, they are females the subject was homosexuals, ie 2 men.
I never assumed that anyone made such a claim.rawls2 wrote:
No one ever claimed nature was perfect. Even nature has it's defects.SenorToenails wrote:
Mallard ducks, as a part of nature, have a high rate of homosexual relationships.rawls2 wrote:
It contradicts nature. At least nature the way it is suppossed to be. So I vote mental disorder.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MallardsWikipedia wrote:
Mallards also have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds. In some cases, as many as 19% of pairs in a Mallard population are male-male homosexual (Bagemihl 1999).
I realize that I am quoting wikipedia, but there is a reputable source attached. Clearly homosexuality is a part of nature.
But do tell me, how is nature "supposed to be"?
All credible science says you're gay before you're born so I'm saying genetic, but it can also be caused by a hormone imbalance that isn't genetic, but you didn't but anything about hormones as a choice.
I think it's far from a choice, just like the way you look and naturally act isn't a choice. We all have our personality traits and physical characteristics, etc. that we are born with and that's just the way things go. People who say it's a choice and that they can control it are ignorant. Why would someone choose to go through so much pain and anguish of coming out? Why would people choose to be part of a minority that is highly frowned upon and looked down on and spat at?
I don't think the answer can be found in genetics. I doubt there are gay genes and straight genes. It's just the way we are wired. Just like things that turn us on and get us horny and things that turn us off can't be found in our genes, but is just part of who we are. Some people are wired differently than others, and that's all it is really. I know several gay people and am friends with a few, and it's just who they are; they don't act flamboyant or want to have sex with another man because they're trying to stand out or be different, that's just who they are, and I respect that.
Even though I disagree with that lifestyle because I'm straight, I still respect their rights as human beings and whatever they do behind bedroom doors is none of my business. People who make a big hooplah out of gayness and want to deny them basic rights like marriage need to get over themselves and worry about their own lives and not the lives of people they don't even know.
I don't think the answer can be found in genetics. I doubt there are gay genes and straight genes. It's just the way we are wired. Just like things that turn us on and get us horny and things that turn us off can't be found in our genes, but is just part of who we are. Some people are wired differently than others, and that's all it is really. I know several gay people and am friends with a few, and it's just who they are; they don't act flamboyant or want to have sex with another man because they're trying to stand out or be different, that's just who they are, and I respect that.
Even though I disagree with that lifestyle because I'm straight, I still respect their rights as human beings and whatever they do behind bedroom doors is none of my business. People who make a big hooplah out of gayness and want to deny them basic rights like marriage need to get over themselves and worry about their own lives and not the lives of people they don't even know.