bogo24dk
Member
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Ottomania wrote:

I wonder how many people here knows the true meaning of jihad?
Jihad literally means to "struggle", notably to "struggle in the way of God" or "to struggle to improve one's self and/or society. [1] It is sometimes referred to as the sixth pillar of Islam, although it occupies no official status as such. Within Islamic jurisprudence, jihad is usually taken to mean military exertion against non-Muslim combatants but there are other ways to perform jihad as well.[2][3] In broader usage and interpretation, the term has accrued both violent and non-violent meanings. It can imply striving to live a moral and virtuous life, spreading and defending Islam, and fighting injustice and oppression, among other things.[4] In the languages of non-islamic cultures, the term is usually used to refer to Muslim 'Holy War' or any violent strife invoking Allah.

The primary aim of jihad is not the conversion of non-Muslims to Islam by force, but rather the expansion and defense of the Islamic state. In the classical manuals of Islamic jurisprudence, the rules associated with armed warfare are covered at great length.[3] Such rules include not killing women, children and non-combatants, as well as not damaging cultivated or residential areas.[5] More recently, modern Muslims have tried to re-interpret the Islamic sources, stressing that Jihad is essentially defensive warfare aimed at protecting Muslims and Islam.[3] Although some Islamic scholars have differered on the implementation of Jihad, there is consensus amongst them that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[6]Some Muslims believe that the Prophet Muhammad regarded the inner struggle for faith a greater Jihad than even fighting [by force] in the way of God.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad



But hey who cares about the truth. It's more convinient to take the fanitics word by word so you can blame the 1.2 billion Muslims.
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|7043|Toronto, ON
As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
Alpha as fuck.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6912|London, England

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
That's.....fucked up. But, I guess you're not to blame. But no need to be so bloody boastful about it. That's not something to really boast about. People here have lost family and friends over there.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2007-07-19 10:06:02)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6474|Ireland
If I agree with the radio host it will make me a right wing neocon racist which is a ban-able offense on this forum.  And don't give me that "Being Muslim and Islamic refers to a belief system and not a race" bull shit, we all know that Muslim stands for people of the Islamic race.

See how much you learn on this forum while being banned by the Mods.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6962|UK
I need to get some securities stock.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
DeathBecomesYu
Member
+171|6470

CameronPoe wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Another laugher is that you believe Muslim people are oppressed??????????HUH????????? Wow..what world do you live in. Yes there are pockets of the world where Muslims are fighting for something and are the minority. The true oppression in many...NOT ALL...Muslim countries is the oppression of woman, gays and anyone that is not Muslim. 2 men were recently hanged in Iran for what? Because they were gay. Women are killed in "honor" killings, women are stoned for what the west would consider minor offenses. Hundreds of thousands of women are not allowed to drive, to go to school, to even leave their homes without their husbands and you are telling me that the religion is oppressed by us? The Taliban were throwing their brand of justice by wiping out anybody who was educated, teachers, doctors and turned that country back to the dark ages.
To be honest, what muslim nations they do on their own turf is none of our business if it isn't damaging or threatening any external party. Their politics and civilisation has not evolved to the same extent western civilisation has. You can't fast forward the entire globe 500 years just because a small number of countries have left the less savoury practices of yesteryear behind. It's not that long ago that being gay was a crime in a lot of western countries. Black people and women were treated as inferior in many countries until relatively recently also. Roll back another one of two centuries and you had the Spanish Inquisition gouging peoples eyes out and branding people with hot irons.

Some criticise the US gun laws. I don't - because that's an internal political/law & order issue for Americans.
Actually, I totally agree with what you say here. But in the context of what I was writing was in response to someone claiming that "We" are oppressing Islam and that is just ridiculous. Islam is in a growing up stage and hopefully the growing pains will go away, but at this point and in my opinion it will go on during my whole lifetime. One thing for sure, the victims of religious pasts we can take a lesson from, this time we won't be victims and stand up against this aggression wherever it rears its ugly head.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6934

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
fucking asshole
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6797

Lotta_Drool wrote:

If I agree with the radio host it will make me a right wing neocon racist which is a ban-able offense on this forum.  And don't give me that "Being Muslim and Islamic refers to a belief system and not a race" bull shit, we all know that Muslim stands for people of the Islamic race.

See how much you learn on this forum while being banned by the Mods.
Please tell me more about "Islamic race". What is it exactly ?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,057|7062|PNW

bogo24dk wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

If I agree with the radio host it will make me a right wing neocon racist which is a ban-able offense on this forum.  And don't give me that "Being Muslim and Islamic refers to a belief system and not a race" bull shit, we all know that Muslim stands for people of the Islamic race.

See how much you learn on this forum while being banned by the Mods.
Please tell me more about "Islamic race". What is it exactly ?
It's like the Jewish race. Only genetically-Muslim.

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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7052

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
fucking asshole
You would think he would get banned for that, but hey, it depends who says it around here....considering it is the second time he has said that.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-07-19 12:46:42)

Villain{NY}
Banned
+44|6635|New York

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
You're the worst type of human being, blood-money grubbing whore.

To the OP:

I have many friends, both in the U.S. and U.K. who are soldiers in Iraq.  They've told me that the vast majority of the Iraqi people are peaceful and have no desire for conflict or association with either the coalition forces or the insurgency, they wish only to be left alone to live and raise their families in peace.  These people are the true Muslims, and their faith is tested to the highest degree everyday.  The face pressure from allied forces everyday and they face almost certain death from the insurgents if they cooperate with the Americans.  Their wives are threatened, their children are threatened, their land is threatened but yet they still find the courage to believe in their god.  Even after the incomprehensible violence and personal loss these people have suffered their faith still remains rock solid, and that to me is being a true Muslim.

Last edited by Villain{NY} (2007-07-19 12:47:40)

G3|Genius
Pope of BF2s
+355|6917|Sea to globally-cooled sea

bogo24dk wrote:

But hey who cares about the truth. It's more convinient to take the fanitics word by word so you can blame the 1.2 billion Muslims.
Actions speak louder than words, my friend.

It is the spirit of Jihad that drove people to try to make those bombs in London in the last few weeks.  Don't kid yourself with wikipedia definitions.  Look around you, fool!
Dimeyard
Member
+7|6619|Sweden
Islamic race? Muslim race? Jewish race?
Damn, you kids are more stupid than I first thought.
Dimeyard
Member
+7|6619|Sweden

G3|Genius wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

But hey who cares about the truth. It's more convinient to take the fanitics word by word so you can blame the 1.2 billion Muslims.
Actions speak louder than words, my friend.

It is the spirit of Jihad that drove people to try to make those bombs in London in the last few weeks.  Don't kid yourself with wikipedia definitions.  Look around you, fool!
Jihad is infact a war against your self. An inner battle. Not against others.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7052

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
I hope YOU die in fire you fucking douchebag.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6953|USA

usmarine2005 wrote:

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
I hope YOU die in fire you fucking douchebag.
I agree with marine. Fuck off fag.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6962|UK

usmarine2005 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Nyte wrote:

As long as all these American troops and mercenaries are getting killed, I'm happy.  Why?  Because my securities stocks just keep getting higher and higher cha-ching!!
fucking asshole
You would think he would get banned for that, but hey, it depends who says it around here....considering it is the second time he has said that.
People routinely post their desire to see the middle east nuked to oblivion which, will you know, kill millions of people, but i don't see you getting your panties in a twist about that?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7052

m3thod wrote:

People routinely post their desire to see the middle east nuked to oblivion which, will you know, kill millions of people, but i don't see you getting your panties in a twist about that?
Twisted theory versus actual events is a tad bit different.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6797

G3|Genius wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

But hey who cares about the truth. It's more convinient to take the fanitics word by word so you can blame the 1.2 billion Muslims.
Actions speak louder than words, my friend.

It is the spirit of Jihad that drove people to try to make those bombs in London in the last few weeks.  Don't kid yourself with wikipedia definitions.  Look around you, fool!
So you are claiming that less then one percent speaks for the rest of 99%.  And who is a fool ? In your twisted logic i should be held accounteble for the actions of Timothy Mcvhei or the IRA or any any other Western terrorist group. Cause actions speaks louder then words.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6962|UK

usmarine2005 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

People routinely post their desire to see the middle east nuked to oblivion which, will you know, kill millions of people, but i don't see you getting your panties in a twist about that?
Twisted theory versus actual events is a tad bit different.
Wanking over death whether its fantasy or real is still wrong.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6797

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

If I agree with the radio host it will make me a right wing neocon racist which is a ban-able offense on this forum.  And don't give me that "Being Muslim and Islamic refers to a belief system and not a race" bull shit, we all know that Muslim stands for people of the Islamic race.

See how much you learn on this forum while being banned by the Mods.
Please tell me more about "Islamic race". What is it exactly ?
It's like the Jewish race. Only genetically-Muslim.

...
Ok.... Another one..... Do you know what the word race means ?
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6763|United States of America
True muslim, eh? Generally dressed in a blanket and a headnappy, toting an AK47, has about 10 kg of plastic explosives primed to blow strapped to his abdomen, treats women like shit and will do everything in his power to bring down western civilisation because he can't handle the fact that we're better than him.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6474|Ireland

bogo24dk wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:


Please tell me more about "Islamic race". What is it exactly ?
It's like the Jewish race. Only genetically-Muslim.

...
Ok.... Another one..... Do you know what the word race means ?
A person on here named Major_Spittle once said that Islam is a mental disorder and likened it to a disease, for this he was banned from the forum by a Moderator for being racist.

Obviously Islam is a race, otherwise he would have been banned for stating his opinion on a religious belief system and that wouldn't make much sense on a debate forum unless the Moderator was being bias.

Soooo, unless you are calling the Moderator bias you better fall in line and realise that Islam is a race.  Also keep in mind that by saying Islam is not a race you are implying that the Moderator is stupid, and I am sure that it will really piss off the Moderator.  So unless you wish to be calling a respected Moderator of the forum biased and stupid you better end your delusions of Islam/Muslim referring to anything other than a person's race.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6962|UK

Lotta_Drool wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It's like the Jewish race. Only genetically-Muslim.

...
Ok.... Another one..... Do you know what the word race means ?
A person on here named Major_Spittle once said that Islam is a mental disorder and likened it to a disease, for this he was banned from the forum by a Moderator for being racist.

Obviously Islam is a race, otherwise he would have been banned for stating his opinion on a religious belief system and that wouldn't make much sense on a debate forum unless the Moderator was being bias.

Soooo, unless you are calling the Moderator bias you better fall in line and realise that Islam is a race.  Also keep in mind that by saying Islam is not a race you are implying that the Moderator is stupid, and I am sure that it will really piss off the Moderator.  So unless you wish to be calling a respected Moderator of the forum biased and stupid you better end your delusions of Islam/Muslim referring to anything other than a person's race.
Spittle was a cock.  Good riddance.

This drool geezer is alright. Smells a bit though.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6797

Lotta_Drool wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:


It's like the Jewish race. Only genetically-Muslim.

...
Ok.... Another one..... Do you know what the word race means ?
A person on here named Major_Spittle once said that Islam is a mental disorder and likened it to a disease, for this he was banned from the forum by a Moderator for being racist.

Obviously Islam is a race, otherwise he would have been banned for stating his opinion on a religious belief system and that wouldn't make much sense on a debate forum unless the Moderator was being bias.

Soooo, unless you are calling the Moderator bias you better fall in line and realise that Islam is a race.  Also keep in mind that by saying Islam is not a race you are implying that the Moderator is stupid, and I am sure that it will really piss off the Moderator.  So unless you wish to be calling a respected Moderator of the forum biased and stupid you better end your delusions of Islam/Muslim referring to anything other than a person's race.
White power !!! Right ?

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