BF2S Forums rpk-74 ...the new sniper rifle

182|dunc wrote:

Playing on the INF only servers over the last 3 weeks i have noticed more and more usage of this weapon as a long range killer
Now i have practiced with this gun for my clan and i know its limitations(or thought i did)
short range AUTO =carnage (standing or prone )
medium range BURST fire whilst prone =ownage
long range SLOW taped single shots while prone =some lucky kills
Now i assumed this was because of the natural bullet deviation assigned to this gun making even single shot prone long range efforts wildly inaccurate
But wait a minute the enemy soldier on the fog line standing behind a wall just headshot me with what seemed like 1 bullet (no multiple tracers or richochets around me),ok so a lucky shot,my squad will revive me.........no they are all dead ,all with RPK one after the other by the same standing enemy
This is happening more and more,is there some piece of knowledge i am not aware of(dont give me that learn how to aim bullshit, with this weapon it dosnt matter if you are perfectly lined up on their head ,the bullet deviation says you will almost certainly miss at long range,especially a moving target)
i have been forced to resort to using the g36e to try take them down in a long range contest and usually still die before i can fire my second burst
Can anybody shed any light on this?
ON another subject has anyone else had very bad hit registering since the problems started with the stats updates

Please, continue whining.

lol. the rpk is more accurate than the pkm. ive started head shotting paratroopers with it of late. it dosent give out many tracer shots. just go prone, and tap a lot with the iron sight. same for the mg36, and the pkm, they can all out snipe snipers if you know how to use it. spraying or using burst is pointless. single shot, and tap. or tan counter the recoil and retap. i can let off 20 shots and only  have a leg height deviation over the warlord fog distance. if it do it sower, there isnt any deviation.
just keep practicing.

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from the hip, yes sir


rpk does some amazing things !!!

Last edited by RaiD (2007-06-20 08:56:49)

182|dunc wrote:

Playing on the INF only servers over the last 3 weeks i have noticed more and more usage of this weapon as a long range killer
Now i have practiced with this gun for my clan and i know its limitations(or thought i did)
short range AUTO =carnage (standing or prone )
medium range BURST fire whilst prone =ownage
long range SLOW taped single shots while prone =some lucky kills
Now i assumed this was because of the natural bullet deviation assigned to this gun making even single shot prone long range efforts wildly inaccurate
But wait a minute the enemy soldier on the fog line standing behind a wall just headshot me with what seemed like 1 bullet (no multiple tracers or richochets around me),ok so a lucky shot,my squad will revive me.........no they are all dead ,all with RPK one after the other by the same standing enemy
This is happening more and more,is there some piece of knowledge i am not aware of(dont give me that learn how to aim bullshit, with this weapon it dosnt matter if you are perfectly lined up on their head ,the bullet deviation says you will almost certainly miss at long range,especially a moving target)
i have been forced to resort to using the g36e to try take them down in a long range contest and usually still die before i can fire my second burst
Can anybody shed any light on this?
ON another subject has anyone else had very bad hit registering since the problems started with the stats updates

He, like 90% of everyone in battlefield2 servers, was probly using a program to modify gameplay to a level exceeding what is commonly thought of as 'fair'
These "Hacks" so there called, are very common, because something called "Punkbuster" that is supposed to stop these "Hackers" sucks more dick then Private Pile.

gameaddict wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

gameaddict wrote:

Wow somebody bitching about a weapon that is not the G36E.

People always complain about the gun that kills them.  Unfortunately, all guns are capable of death, so the problem will never be solved.

The reason why we have this many patches.

Why can't everyone but me have plastic bullets, smoke grenades, and a butterknife??  this game is too hard!!!

Wow...everyone knows this but refuses to use machine guns. This is all I would use. On Sharqi, I was once on the construction tower firing semi-auto/"single shot" or bursts at the people on the other side of the wall spawning. I was a noob but still got a 12 kill streak. Pkm still owns rpk-74 anyways...unless the modified it in the patch..i haven't used it for a while...but seriosuly, just use the PKM. 3 Successful shots kill instantly...you have 100 rounds per BOX magazine w/ unlimited refills and the accuracy beats the m16 when fired semi-auto. I'm glad I unlocked it, but it's just one of those guns you won't find noobs using 'cause they don't know how. I'm suprised they did NOTHING about the accuracy of the PKM

Last edited by Noobpatty (2007-06-20 09:05:23)

one of the hallmarks of hackers is to stand up and fire from the hip at long range with guns like the RPK, which is nothing but a waste of ammo unless you have superhuman aim.  I've noticed it a lot in hackers i follow, they hate laying down for some reason

tbh, the PKM is mroe accurate, but if you use ironsights it can give you the false illusion if innacuracy because the ironsights are ridiculously inaccurate for most of the LMGs for some reason

I wish EA would make the weapons in BF2 more like they are in the EoD mod... especially with the M16 being full-auto....

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

RPK-74 is better than any other gun at everything.

Taking out tanks?

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

jord wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

RPK-74 is better than any other gun at everything.

Taking out tanks?

Once I shot an exploding barrel that was next top a tank with my RPK and I got the kill.

I'm sure you did.

Once i threw a grenade and killed all 32 of the enemy.

jord wrote:

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

jord wrote:

Taking out tanks?

Once I shot an exploding barrel that was next top a tank with my RPK and I got the kill.

I'm sure you did.

Once i threw a grenade and killed all 32 of the enemy.

one thing the rpk is NOT good at is CQC when you are forced to stand up behind an object and shoot.

Thing is I dont "refuse" to use machine guns. And yeah, almost ANY rifle on single shot is deadly acurate, and gets even more so when lying down. That's the gist of patch 1.21 (I think it was) that introduced the decreased recoil and decreased deviation. With the deviation pr shot added to an LMG being rather low, because it's supposed to be used on full auto, the PRK and MG36 become VERY deadly because of their initally rather low deviation. Damage is still only 30 for the MG36 and 35 for the RPK, meaning three shots to kill non armored opponents, and 4 to kill armored. Whereas the MG36 is 4 shots to kill non armored, and 5 to kill armored. You can fire singleshots pretty fast with each, and have a rather large "clip", so in ranged battles it's a really good gun, particularly against many enemies, as you may or may not have experienced.
But pit it against someone who knows how to use say.... A G3 or ANY G36 type rifles (the M16 is also very accurate on single, but not as accurate as say the G36C, and only marginally more so than the RPK), and the RPK shooter WILL loose. His advantage is gone in terms of accuracy, and his enemy can STAND and have as little recoil and deviation as the RPK shooter will have lying down. The RPK shooter will have body armor, and will need 4 shots form any (non sniper) rifle minimum (5 from most) for a kill, or 1-2 head shots (headshots being MORE likely when lying down, as ONLY your head is facing the enemy). The guy the RPK shooter is up against, will likely NOT have body armor (unless it's a G3 or M16A1), and will need 3-4 shots or one headshot to get killed. So the assault will totally own the RPK shooter in ranged combat. Then again, the G3 is a VERY good weapon for taking out medium ranged snipers on maps with a little fog so the max range is around 150-200 meters (like Karkand, Warlord, Shonghua and basically any map without jets/helos). Once you've spotted your enemy, you single shot him to pieces because he'll likely be standing/lying still while he aims, but YOU can fire 5-6 shots for every one he fires, so if you both hit equally well, the sniper WILL loose the engagement. (not accounting for the really good snipers or the lucky first headshot, but I'm talking two equally good players, a good sniper vs. a good assault user)

Same thing goes for the squad that encounters an RPK. The other day, I took down no less than 11 guys (guessing two full squads) some of them twice as they got revived by their medics, I did this ALONE defending a flag with the RPK. You may call it luck. Yes, it was lucky I spawned with the RPK, 'cause there's no way I could do that in patch 1.02 or with any other weapon ! This was short range. Had they seen me they would have likely kicked my ass on medium range (which is where the RPK gets heavily outclassed by ex. the assault rifles), which is what usually happens when 1 guy faces two full squads. But had we had the option to engage eachother on long range, their only advantage would have been experience (assuming some of them know how to use single shot), and numerical superiority.... Because with these very specific conditions that snipers experience on exactly the maps I've described, then they'll have their collective arses handed to them by an experienced RPK user. Same as any other soldier class will if they dont think before they charge into combat.
There's very good reasons why full frontal assault will usually against the MEC forces. The power of the RPK is definately one of these reasons.

So yeah, not accounting for the fact the the PKM shoots through wooden buildings like fences with quite some force, then the RPK is definately the best LMG out there in my opinion. I love it. And yes, I DO take out snipers with it. Single shot or short bursts on full auto.... Same diff. I win at least 75% of all engagements with snipers on foggy maps when I have the RPK... On non foggy, I tend to loose an even higher number though.

LMGs are really good at very specific tasks.... Medium ranged support fire just happens to be what they're designed for, so in reality, I think it's little wonder that they're good in this capacity.