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nighthawk843 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

The SVD automatically has low accuracy. The chance of getting a headshot even when aiming at a perfectly still target you have a chance of missing. I just dont miss in the first place. No matter how good you are 10 headshots a clip is not possible. And lets face it, most people actually use it because they cant headshot.

What the hell are you talking about? Have you ever learnt how to use an SVD? It's a headshot heaven gun!!! I would say you can get at least 3-4 headshots a clip (excluding body shot kills) if you are trying hard which is pretty good + it's helpful when you miss your not having to reload the bloody thing. I use it and I can get headshots, you obviously play with too many noobs.

Vilham wrote:

The chance of getting a headshot even when aiming at a perfectly still target you have a chance of missing. I just dont miss in the first place.

And you've just owned yourself because if you cant hit a perfectly still target then your aiming wrong: you always aim slightly left. Its not like the L96, M24, Type 88 or M95.

Im guessing you dont realise it has a deviation of 5x higher than bolt actions, added to the fact that the scope is lesser. My statement is true. The simple fact is even aiming perfectly at a target you have a chance of missing. Its maths. It isnt hard.

As to your first part. I get 4-5 headshots a clip with a bolt. So... blatantly better.

"helpful when you miss your not having to reload" my original point. Its for people that cant one shot one kill. Or rarely very amazing snipers use it. I have yet to see one in game.

Dude...vilham.........just........go back to your little boy league.

pyscofrawg wrote:

And with you 25 hours of using the sniper you must know everything about it. You claim that you don't miss and get 4 headshots a clip, yet your accuracy is 43%, lower than mine. That seems odd considering that I use the SVD 85% of the time, have over 100 more hours with the rifle, and my accuracy is still better. I'll just disregard anything you say about anything and declare Drunk Musketeer the winner here. And if none of you have seen any of the SVD "pros" around you need to get out and play. There are many of them, and their stats and ranks decieve you.

lol its called not taking the game seriously. I mainly play none ranked. Aswell as the fact that when we play ranked we often fuck around, like knifing our whole team, lol. I play in 3 different leagues and have yet to see a single player from any of the clans choose to play SVD when commanding.

I often bunny hop around and go for the unscoped shots on my clan mates. Obviously lowing my accuracy. And as any player should know stats mean little to nothing! For example my KDR with sniper seems low, despite the fact that in the last 20 or so rounds my average would be closer 4 if not 5.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-06-14 09:56:22)

senor_fulff wrote:

hey todd...
finally edged ahead of you on the sniper rifle leaderboard... lol

Which one? But anyway, not hard: http://bf2s.com/player/65281657/history/Time/

But even if I were playing the account it still wouldn't be hard ROFL

TrueArchon wrote:

They're out there.  Trust me, I've run into them plenty a time on IO Special Forces servers.

That's pretty much all I'm playing these days and still, very thin on the ground. But maybe it's a geographical thing.

TrueArchon wrote:

If there is an SVD "pro" out there using his staccato, rapid-fire method to kill enemies effectively, then he's doing his job well, IMO.

Agreed. Killing the enemy is all that's fundamentally at issue. Dead is dead. Course it IS better for a couple of reasons if the player can get headshots but it's not the end of the world if you're having trouble because of lag or skill level, or whatever, so you need to triple-tap.

TrueArchon wrote:

Because, let's be honest.  Sniper to sniper. 

Not every shot we take is a head shot.  Most.  But not all.

I'm a bodyshot specialist, I don't really 'aim' for headshots as a goal.

Drunk_Musketeer wrote:

In situations sniper vs sniper..
-on 90% of city maps SVD > M24..

But that's only for someone like you, and experience sure shows you're the exception.

Even with a player of modest ability like myself it's rare for me to not be top sniper on an urban map using the M24 because there simply aren't many players skilled in using the SVD. Get anyone younger with decent reflexes on USMC/SAS and any SVD hopeful would have a rough time of it, unless the M24 user is a bit thick.

Nyte wrote:

I rarely miss with any gun, especially the SVD/Type 88 at long range.

But that's only me of course.

Missing 4 shots in every 10 isn't exactly "rarely"

JET_G raidensen wrote:

Eeeeek, ze sarcasm detectors, zey ar not be working?

Ah, okay.

JET_G raidensen wrote:

Ive seen plenty of peeps with little amount of rifle kills that are insanely good, stats dont mean a lot, but they do offer a mild guideline...well, sorta.

Yeah, one has to guess if it's a first account if you don't know for sure, or try to judge other factors (like always playing with clanmates) that might artificially ('artificially'?) plump up some of the numbers. IO servers sure make a difference now too with the lower-threat environment.

nighthawk843 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

The chance of getting a headshot even when aiming at a perfectly still target you have a chance of missing. I just dont miss in the first place.

And you've just owned yourself because if you cant hit a perfectly still target then your aiming wrong:

Achem, not quite: deviation, dust hits, disappearing bullets, hitbox alignment.

nighthawk843 wrote:

you always aim slightly left. Its not like the L96, M24, Type 88 or M95.

Roger that.

Vilham wrote:

Im guessing you dont realise it has a deviation of 5x higher than bolt actions, added to the fact that the scope is lesser.

2x, not 5x.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

TrueArchon wrote:

They're out there.  Trust me, I've run into them plenty a time on IO Special Forces servers.

That's pretty much all I'm playing these days and still, very thin on the ground. But maybe it's a geographical thing.

Hmm... Could be a geographical thing, true.

There were a number of them playing on the DoM server a while back, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.  Lately, I've been playing on Teabaggers, but most of the SVD guys there aren't really that good.  A couple good snipers, don't get me wrong, but most of those snipers use the bolt actions.  Niclangdon is good with the SVD.  I've been witness to that.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

TrueArchon wrote:

If there is an SVD "pro" out there using his staccato, rapid-fire method to kill enemies effectively, then he's doing his job well, IMO.

Agreed. Killing the enemy is all that's fundamentally at issue. Dead is dead. Course it IS better for a couple of reasons if the player can get head-shots but it's not the end of the world if you're having trouble because of lag or skill level, or whatever, so you need to triple-tap.

Yeah, the times that I've used a triple tap was often done while taking pot-shots at enemies in extreme firefights with teammates.  Sometimes, it's when I've beaded down on an enemy sniper for a head-shot, and by some manner or another, missed the head-shot, and instead got a body shot.  I'll usually then follow up with two quick body shots to avoid a more accurate, bolt-action head-shot in retaliation.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

TrueArchon wrote:

Because, let's be honest.  Sniper to sniper. 

Not every shot we take is a head shot.  Most.  But not all.

I'm a body shot specialist, I don't really 'aim' for head-shots as a goal.

Really?  I goal for head-shots probably 9 out of 10.

Sometimes I go for body, but that's often a result of too many friendlies in the area.  Or the opposite, too many enemies.  I'll also go for kinda head/body shots with the SVD at longer distances, because the "reticule" is...  What's the best word I can use?  Odd?  Maybe, not the best tool for the job?

Anyways, shot my whole point with ya out the window with the sniper head-shot vs. body shots argument.  Thanks Todd!

Hehehe.

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Vilham wrote:

SVD is for people that fail to get headshots. They need a quick second shot to get a kill.

Most of my shot with the SVD are straight headshot...The fact that i can shoot fast just make it a good Close Combat weapon...Yes im an assault sniper!

Good for you. But i personally rarely find snipers like that, and nearly NEVER find them in leagues and ladders.

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Most of my shot with the SVD are straight headshot...The fact that i can shoot fast just make it a good Close Combat weapon...Yes im an assault sniper!

Good for you. But i personally rarely find snipers like that, and nearly NEVER find them in leagues and ladders.

Ive been sniping with the SVD in Twl match...My team loved me for that...even if sniper are not seen from a good eyes in there.

I would expect any commander to go sniper in a TWL match or infact any clan match. Nothing better than a sniper defending your main base on mash or the square on kark.

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Vilham wrote:

SVD is for people that fail to get headshots. They need a quick second shot to get a kill.

...Yes im an assault sniper!

Designated Marksman is the term you were looking for

i allways use the SVD for long range headshots it kicks ass
the M95 is also very good
i suck really badlly with the british sniper rifle

watch this quick vid .. showing that both semi's are extremely good if you learn how to use them.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nbHOawaeoR8

Last edited by plastic_budgie (2007-06-15 14:15:44)

Only map i can think of where you can long range snipe with the SVD is Clean sweep. Now the type 88 on the other hand.....

500m kills are possible with the type 88 if the situation is right, especially if you know enemy movement/spots. I admit ive only had a few of them but ive had many 300-400m kills with the type 88.

So, no i don't use the SVD for long range, i use the type 88 for long range though

Tushers wrote:

svd is teh secks id prefer the l9 or m24 but the svd is fun 10 head shots in one clip

I can only get 7-8 headshots a clip. Never 10.

Vilham wrote:

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Vilham wrote:

SVD is for people that fail to get headshots. They need a quick second shot to get a kill.

Most of my shot with the SVD are straight headshot...The fact that i can shoot fast just make it a good Close Combat weapon...Yes im an assault sniper!

Good for you. But i personally rarely find snipers like that, and nearly NEVER find them in leagues and ladders.

Oh no, it is mr. almighty cal-o and twl. Arent you pro. scrub.

Last edited by [Hive]-Twist (2007-07-11 11:05:52)