m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6874|UK

{USMC}Louis wrote:

Im sure that you would say the same if they flew planes into your country's buildings and you lost some of your family in the twin towers....Untill then you have no place to talk about reasoning...
I'm sorry for your loss IF you're telling the truth but the willful destruction of human life brought about by the Iraq war for both Americans and Iraqis does mean i have a place to talk....and talk i shall.

And don't get me started on CG's response.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|6857|Teesside, UK

{USMC}Louis wrote:

No im saying I would do anything to find out who did and that whole region is full of terrorists and they are more than likley involved
TBH I'd say you would have better chance looking for them in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.  The majority of the hijackers suspected of carrying out the 9/11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizers … 01_attacks
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6874|UK

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Funny how ATG's post exploded into this. One person posts something irrelevant, then another person addresses that, and so on. Before you know it, there's 10 pages of bickering that doesn't even relate to the OP.
You mean.....just like this one?!
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6874|UK

{USMC}Louis wrote:

No im saying I would do anything to find out who did and that whole region is full of terrorists and they are more than likley involved
You really are misinformed.

There were little or no terrorist in Iraqis prior to the war. The failure to properly occupy the country and secure its borders after the fall of Baghdad provided the many terrorists the adventure playground to take your forces on in an environment where they have the upper hand.

Any idea how to differentiate between a Saudi, Jordanian, Syrian, Iraqi or Iranian?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6384|Santa Rosa, California
Right and I dont doubt that but Iraq is part of it...I dont think all the motives for the war in iraq are right but they do have something to do with it..
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6597|The Gem Saloon

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Funny how ATG's post exploded into this. One person posts something irrelevant, then another person addresses that, and so on. Before you know it, there's 10 pages of bickering that doesn't even relate to the OP.
LOL, method decided to bring my work into this discussion......just goes to show how quickly people can change their arguments into personal attacks when they feel they arent winning.
its ok little guy, you will find your place.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6426|Escea

m3thod wrote:

Any idea how to differentiate between a Saudi, Jordanian, Syrian, Iraqi or Iranian?
Check his passport and ask him.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-05-28 10:47:30)

m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6874|UK

M.O.A.B wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Any idea how to differentiate between a Saudi, Jordanian, Syrian, Iraqi or Iranian?
Check his passport and ask him.
LOL!
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6597|The Gem Saloon
"LOL! There is nothing worse than being told that something that worked your nuts over is....crap! i'm loving it....guess who?"

i got that in a karma message and im assuming its from poor method....you are pretty sad buddy.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6874|UK
Fark, you would think he would appreciate some sympathy karma
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7031

CameronPoe wrote:

I feel sorry for the soldier for the manner in which he was killed but if you're trying to tell me that Gitmo and Abu Ghraib are OK because of these barbarians acts then you can go jump. Two wrongs don't make a right. Both sides have commited atrocities in this conflict.
Sounds like you think they even themselves out. Personally I think no sleep and being naked in front of a camera while dogs barked at me is better than being murdered savagely.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6964

CC-Marley wrote:

Sounds like you think they even themselves out. Personally I think no sleep and being naked in front of a camera while dogs barked at me is better than being murdered savagely.
One would think.........
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6758

CC-Marley wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I feel sorry for the soldier for the manner in which he was killed but if you're trying to tell me that Gitmo and Abu Ghraib are OK because of these barbarians acts then you can go jump. Two wrongs don't make a right. Both sides have commited atrocities in this conflict.
Sounds like you think they even themselves out. Personally I think no sleep and being naked in front of a camera while dogs barked at me is better than being murdered savagely.
Well it looks like someone like to assume a lot of things which are just not fucking true then doesn't it? What happened to the soldier is worse than what happens to those at Gitmo, far worse, but both are completely terrible and a stain on humanity.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-28 16:55:52)

CC-Marley
Member
+407|7031

CameronPoe wrote:

CC-Marley wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I feel sorry for the soldier for the manner in which he was killed but if you're trying to tell me that Gitmo and Abu Ghraib are OK because of these barbarians acts then you can go jump. Two wrongs don't make a right. Both sides have commited atrocities in this conflict.
Sounds like you think they even themselves out. Personally I think no sleep and being naked in front of a camera while dogs barked at me is better than being murdered savagely.
Well it looks like someone like to assume a lot of things which are just not fucking true then doesn't it? What happened to the soldier is worse than what happens to those at Gitmo, far worse, but both are completely terrible and a stain on humanity.
Maybe...but my first thought was to assume that because of the way you worded your post.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6909

m3thod wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

m3thod wrote:


The United Nations Convention against touture would be reliable if anyone would bother placing reliance upon it.
That was an incredibly obvious statement...
I don't see how it relates to what I said though.
Whats the point? Quote it from the popes ass if you want, no one abides by these pointless definations UN or no UN.
Yet again, it doe not relate to what I said.  I said:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

It doen't matter what the dictionary says about the differences between tourture and interrigation.  Are you saying the definition in some dictionary is going to be more reliable than the United Nations Convention against touture?
JackerP
aka S.J.N.P.0717
+21|6481|Mo Val, Cali
I was looking at recent posts for the front page and saw this. Since the first thread was long titled I thought to look at the next line for the continuation of the tital and was surprised.

# American Soldier Abducted Tortured Killed
# Rofl.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6384|Santa Rosa, California
I am surprised sometimes at how people look at human death in comparrison to other forms of retaliation..I dont understand why people get upset about taking detainees and making them stand naked in front of people..When not too long ago videos of soildiers getting their heads chopped off with a dull knife and being made to begg for life before they do it....Maybe in fact what they did in Abu Ghrab was wrong and certainly what they did was wrong but when US soldiers die war is war is the reason but when we humilate it is not said to be war is war...
Retalliation[1337]
Robin Hood ---> "u got arrownd"
+51|6677|Belgium

S.Lythberg wrote:

One solution for our Middle east problem:

http://www.garnertedarmstrong.ws/Mark_W … _97775.jpg

Seriously, if these people can't act human, then they don't deserve a humane death.

Instant vaporization is almost too good for them, I hope most aren't killed too quickly.
this is a way too harsh solution seriously
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6764

{USMC}Louis wrote:

No im saying I would do anything to find out who did and that whole region is full of terrorists and they are more than likley involved
Terrorists which arrived after the US rolled in.

M3thod, don't bother with parker.  You know what they say about arguing with idiots.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6426|Escea

Aye stay away from Bubbalo, j/k
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6964

Bubbalo wrote:

M3thod, don't bother with parker.  You know what they say about arguing with idiots.
Nice relevant post.

/fail
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6764

usmarine2005 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

M3thod, don't bother with parker.  You know what they say about arguing with idiots.
Nice relevant post.

/fail
And this is so much more relevant
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6732|Global Command
Stop wrecking my thread.

*(edit)
Thanks Lizzard!

Last edited by ATG (2007-05-29 08:52:54)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6764
NEVAR!

Oh, just picked this one up:

ATG wrote:

Perhaps.

So Bubs, let's say you are Prime Minister of Australia and your SAS has captured two members of a cell that has a nuclear bomb planted in Sydney. The clock is set for 24 hours and they know where it's at.

Would you support torture to get the info or order an evacuation of Sydney, or both?
I wouldn't support torture, because that would defeat the purpose of winning.  That is to say: if you have become as bad as Stalin to win against Stalin, admit defeat.  Plus, the terrorist could (and probably would) just send me on a wild goose chase.

CannonFodder11b wrote:

No Bubs lacks the intestinal fortitude to do anything in person, he would rather rant and derail threads on the internet then get his hands dirty.
Even if we assume that's true, why should I be ashamed of the fact that I can't cause serious pain to a man who can't fight back?  What, is the measure of a man how much pain he can inflict when the other guy is strapped to a table?
AutralianChainsaw
Member
+65|6401

ATG wrote:

Body Found in River That of US Soldier
http://apnews.myway.com//article/200705 … GIO83.html

Hassan al-Jibouri, 32, said he saw the body with head wounds and whip marks on its back floating on the river Wednesday morning. He and others then alerted police.

Iraqis and terrorist know what happens when they are captured by Americans; they go to jail.
Americans know what happens if they get captured by Islamic militants.
I dunno about you but if China invaded my country and i would manage to capture one of them.. trust me he would not make it back to his base.  I would not torture him but for sure i would never let him go.. Im pretty sure you would do the same thing if some foreign nations decided to invade your country.

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