Sweet, another evolution thread.
Sweet, you are back.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Sweet, another evolution thread.
I only watched the first video, but I would just like to point out how stupid it is. I am no ID supporter, I am a biology major, but there is no goal to natural selection.
why dont people focus more on explaining why they are right, and less time on why others are wrong?
This critic is handled in the second vid.cryptofcolumbus wrote:
I only watched the first video, but I would just like to point out how stupid it is. I am no ID supporter, I am a biology major, but there is no goal to natural selection.
The picture is meant to represent the perfect solution for an optimization problem.
U of O?cryptofcolumbus wrote:
I only watched the first video, but I would just like to point out how stupid it is. I am no ID supporter, I am a biology major, but there is no goal to natural selection.
but what do you mean there's no goal? Isn't it kind of to produce the most well fit species
That was pretty cool by my opinion.
Pollux - I didn't miss you and your sarcasm.
What was the song in Vid 1?
Pollux - I didn't miss you and your sarcasm.
What was the song in Vid 1?
Emmm, watch the second video. And there's a goal, the survival of the fittest.cryptofcolumbus wrote:
I only watched the first video, but I would just like to point out how stupid it is. I am no ID supporter, I am a biology major, but there is no goal to natural selection.
It's not a goal, it's a result.sergeriver wrote:
And there's a goal, the survival of the fittest.
It's an implicit goal, adaptation.derstralle wrote:
It's not a goal, it's a result.sergeriver wrote:
And there's a goal, the survival of the fittest.
There is no goal. Natural selection is only a process that occurs due to the circumstances species find themselves in.CommieChipmunk wrote:
but what do you mean there's no goal? Isn't it kind of to produce the most well fit speciescryptofcolumbus wrote:
I only watched the first video, but I would just like to point out how stupid it is. I am no ID supporter, I am a biology major, but there is no goal to natural selection.
I have to say those videos were a bad way of trying to prove natural selection and evolution.
A process by which favorable heritable phenotypes become more common in successive generations. There's an implicit goal, the adaptation of the species.cryptofcolumbus wrote:
There is no goal. Natural selection is only a process that occurs due to the circumstances species find themselves in.CommieChipmunk wrote:
but what do you mean there's no goal? Isn't it kind of to produce the most well fit speciescryptofcolumbus wrote:
I only watched the first video, but I would just like to point out how stupid it is. I am no ID supporter, I am a biology major, but there is no goal to natural selection.
I can live with that. But just stating survival of the fittest is the goal insinuates that it is some kind of thinking process. Kinda nitpicking thoughsergeriver wrote:
It's an implicit goal, adaptation.
That was not what I meant. The goal is implicit, there's no thinking involved, that would be ID, the opposite.derstralle wrote:
I can live with that. But just stating survival of the fittest is the goal insinuates that it is some kind of thinking process. Kinda nitpicking thoughsergeriver wrote:
It's an implicit goal, adaptation.
Anyone know the name of the song in the first video?
It's Rem, don't remember the name of the song.Knightnifer wrote:
Anyone know the name of the song in the first video?
Thanks.sergeriver wrote:
It's Rem, don't remember the name of the song.Knightnifer wrote:
Anyone know the name of the song in the first video?
It was REM-Losing my religion
Last edited by Knightnifer (2007-04-29 13:08:44)
I for one am glad God us mostly good stuff to eat on this planet.
Because if I was a plant I would evolve to be inedible, so no one would eat me.
I also thank God for trees and shrubs and bushes.
Because if we lived among grasses and giant ferns, nobody could have ever invented a boat, let alone IKEA.
Because if I was a plant I would evolve to be inedible, so no one would eat me.
I also thank God for trees and shrubs and bushes.
Because if we lived among grasses and giant ferns, nobody could have ever invented a boat, let alone IKEA.
I have already done that in this thread.Vilham wrote:
I have to say those videos were a bad way of trying to prove natural selection and evolution.
Creationism - God created the earth 6000 or so years ago as is...
Evolutionism - Everything happened by chance
Intelligent design - evolutionism, but with a greater force prodding it here and there to push it in a certain direction
please make the distinction
Evolutionism - Everything happened by chance
Intelligent design - evolutionism, but with a greater force prodding it here and there to push it in a certain direction
please make the distinction
Trying to prove that something like intelligent design is wrong is like trying to prove that there are no intelligent extra-terrestrials. Insufficient data.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-04-29 23:16:24)
Cute vid, but not as good as the video that debunks the stupid "Atheist's Nightmare" video. Seriously, what the hell are people smoking when they can look at a banana and say "Hey! This looks like something that was made specifically for us, and we do not understand domestication in any way, shape, or form."
The ironic thing is that humans are so fit, we're about to "survive" ourselves to extinction.
I just had a thought: As humans are supposedly descended from monkeys according to elvelutionalists, (and sole ones, not ones who are Christians or partial Creationalists), then shouldn't we let those monkeys in the zoos go, seeing as they have the potential to also become intelligent species like humans in the long run? Who knows, perhaps we irradicated a new "human" with the last monkey/gorilla/baboon that died in captivity!
I just had a thought: As humans are supposedly descended from monkeys according to elvelutionalists, (and sole ones, not ones who are Christians or partial Creationalists), then shouldn't we let those monkeys in the zoos go, seeing as they have the potential to also become intelligent species like humans in the long run? Who knows, perhaps we irradicated a new "human" with the last monkey/gorilla/baboon that died in captivity!