BF2S Forums How come... (New suicide attacks hit Morocco)

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ATG wrote:

Cameron, this is a silly question, unworthy of debate.

Unless your mad because American troops are not in Morroco, ffs.

I'm just pointing out that the tactics used by the US are not preventing terror against America. That is all. I mean - what are you gonna do if Morocco becomes a hotspot? Invade it? And then Libya?

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-04-14 13:07:00)

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

Cameron, this is a silly question, unworthy of debate.

Unless your mad because American troops are not in Morroco, ffs.

I'm just pointing out that the tactics used by the US are not preventing terror against America. That is all. I mean - what are you gonna do if Morocco becomes a hotspot? Invade it? And then Libya?

That's what I tried to say http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=69652

CameronPoe wrote:

...the 'war on terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't prevent this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6555177.stm

I thought that by centring the 'fight against terror' in Iraq and Afghanistan the US would be safe forever...

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ATG wrote:

Yes .


Nothing short of total victory will do.

Bush will go, another asshole will come and go.

We are going to win this war because our values and respect for human dignity and freedom are better

hahah you made me laugh

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

Yes .


Nothing short of total victory will do.

Bush will go, another asshole will come and go.

We are going to win this war because our values and respect for human dignity and freedom are better.
It's been said, this is a generational war.

Some points:

The population of America is vastly exceeded by that of the Islamic world. Total victory (whatever that means!) would be impossible pretty much.

Gitmo != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Support for Israel != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Support for Saudi Arabia != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Support for Saddam in the 80s != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Bending Latin American countries over backwards using the World Bank != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

US-Imperfect in executing democracy but still upholds the values of freedom and liberty.

Islamic fundamentalists-Open in their desire to rule everyone under Sharia law that completely shackles human freedom and liberty.

"Total victory" doesn't entail killing all the Muslims; it's showing to the Islamic world that a Western-style government with liberty and freedom is vastly superior to backwards Sharia law.

UGADawgs wrote:

US-Imperfect in executing democracy but still upholds the values of freedom and liberty.

Islamic fundamentalists-Open in their desire to rule everyone under Sharia law that completely shackles human freedom and liberty.

"Total victory" doesn't entail killing all the Muslims; it's showing to the Islamic world that a Western-style government with liberty and freedom is vastly superior to backwards Sharia law.

Their societies have many years, possibly centuries, of growing up to do before they adopt western-style governments. What your suggesting is like asking an 8 year old to build a house.

Why does this threat of Sharia law ruling the world frighten anyone? How could they possibly ever hope to implement something like that? It's ludicrous! It's stretching the limits of the imagination beyond all recognition. A little perspective please.

How come......... you keep making the same threads?

CameronPoe wrote:

UGADawgs wrote:

US-Imperfect in executing democracy but still upholds the values of freedom and liberty.

Islamic fundamentalists-Open in their desire to rule everyone under Sharia law that completely shackles human freedom and liberty.

"Total victory" doesn't entail killing all the Muslims; it's showing to the Islamic world that a Western-style government with liberty and freedom is vastly superior to backwards Sharia law.

Their societies have many years, possibly centuries, of growing up to do before they adopt western-style governments. What your suggesting is like asking an 8 year old to build a house.

Why does this threat of Sharia law ruling the world frighten anyone? How could they possibly ever hope to implement something like that? It's ludicrous! It's stretching the limits of the imagination beyond all recognition. A little perspective please.

So you say.


UGADawgs, thanks.

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

How come......... you keep making the same threads?

The same reason you keep making the same replies.

Is that a touche moment?

UGADawgs wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

Yes .


Nothing short of total victory will do.

Bush will go, another asshole will come and go.

We are going to win this war because our values and respect for human dignity and freedom are better.
It's been said, this is a generational war.

Some points:

The population of America is vastly exceeded by that of the Islamic world. Total victory (whatever that means!) would be impossible pretty much.

Gitmo != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Support for Israel != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Support for Saudi Arabia != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Support for Saddam in the 80s != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

Bending Latin American countries over backwards using the World Bank != Values and respect for human dignity and freedom.

US-Imperfect in executing democracy but still upholds the values of freedom and liberty.

Islamic fundamentalists-Open in their desire to rule everyone under Sharia law that completely shackles human freedom and liberty.

"Total victory" doesn't entail killing all the Muslims; it's showing to the Islamic world that a Western-style government with liberty and freedom is vastly superior to backwards Sharia law.

Do you know that Sharia law is the equivalent to stating --- LAW LAW because umm you didn't translate the Arabic you jack ass.

So i guess American Sharia law (law law ) is the same kind of law that allows these sorts of things to be perpetrated in the name of freedom and democracy. Hurray!

Last edited by Fen321 (2007-04-14 14:50:19)

They haven't figured out yet that their government is based on slogans.  That "preserving freedom" is code for "preserving some fat cat military industrialist's bank account".  They're mindlessly repeating the memes of "this side is a traitor!", "this side hates Freedom!", "this side thinks more...because they said so!"

Nobody seems to have guessed now that "the troops" are tools to be used by those in power.  Some of us trust that they will always be used responsibly.  Some of us have been in for long enough to know that this is not always the case.  Soldiers don't have a choice in where they go and what they do.  Everyone understands this.  Nobody is blaming soldiers, nobody is "hurting soldiers", nobody wishes harm upon our good soldiers...except those that use them irresponsibly.

The thing is, our good soldiers have won the war.  I was there, I won it too.  I got the medal and the T-shirt.  Now we are in an occupation.  The thing about occupations is that you don't "win" or "lose" an occupation.  There's 2 outcomes from an occupation..."withdrawal of the occupying force" or "annexation and assimilation."  We tore the lid off a giant civil war that had been in progress for almost a century, and now we sit there struggling to keep the lid on not understanding a damned thing about their culture or motives or most importantly, history.  Some of us still think "they hate us for our freedoms". 

Some us just want to cosole ourselves in talking points and seeking out an external enemy because the horror of knowing that you've been used as a tool is just too much to contemplate.  The horror of knowing that a leadership you put so much faith in has betrayed you would shake your sense of self to the very core.  So you goose-step forward like obediant little lemmings, not realizing you've sold yourself to mental slavery, closed out sunlight, and placed chains on your mind voluntarily!  And all for what?  So the most corrupt, incompetent, and evil administration ever to disgrace our founding principles can use you as tools to enrich themselves and run, leaving their allies the fundamentalists in charge while they kick it in their South American resorts or little man-made islands in Dubai when they've ransacked the treasury and your collective dignity?

The only way a man can be controlled to blindness like this is through fear...so what are you so afraid of that you would sacrifice the very meaning of being an American in order to serve more these men that truly care nothing for America?