jsnipy
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17999196/

After a career of cranky insults, radio star Don Imus was fighting for his job Monday following one joke that by his own admission went “way too far.”

CBS Radio and MSNBC both said they were suspending Imus’ morning talk show for two weeks following his reference last week to members of the Rutgers women’s basketball team as “nappy-headed hos.”


What he said...





Discuss.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-04-09 21:11:51)

Flaming_Maniac
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Moved to D&ST

Eh...I think he went too far
Turquoise
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If Kanye West had said that, he'd get off scot free.
Jet Blast
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They pay him for his opinions, not the news.  Should he have said it to millions of people on recorded tape?  No.
Reciprocity
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that's the kind of thing you do when you're tired of your job but don't wanna retire.  he's probably got some clause in his contract that gives him a few extra million if he is  fired.  what a stupid thing to say.
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A snippet of him on Al Sharpton's show (not that I like Sharpton@ALL)



Last edited by jsnipy (2007-04-09 21:12:49)

topthrill05
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Bunch of Nappy Hoes if you ask me........... What a double standard.
Kmar
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AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson get to recycle their names again.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ATG
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It's kind of funny that Al sharpton is picked to be the  media whore for this event. 

Reckless Blowhard

Sharpton made his name and his fame as the one to lead a protest movement after every racially charged incident in New York over the last 30 years (and many elsewhere in the U.S.) Especially early in his career, he seemed content and even eager to inflame racial hatreds at the risk of violence, as long as it gave him publicity and power.

Several of these protests escalated to the point of violence, in several cases by those who Sharpton championed. Examples include the Crown Heights riot of 1991, and a 1995 arson attack on a Jewish Harlem jeweler that resulted in 8 deaths. That attack came months after Sharpton made remarks about the "white interloper". (He later apologized, saying that he wouldn't use the word white again in that context.)

Two incidents however appear to have caused him to tone down his excesses and refine his image. First, in 1987, black teenager Tawana Brawley claimed that six white law enforcement officers -- including then-assistant district attorney Steven Pagones -- had abducted and raped her, scrawled racial insults on her body and smeared her with feces.

Miss Brawley refused to speak with authorities or the media, but Sharpton and her two other advisers were soon making wild claims. Sharpton compared then-state Attorney General Robert Abrams, a Jew, to Adolf Hitler. All three linked then-Gov. Mario Cuomo to organized crime and the Ku Klux Klan.

Within a year, a grand jury announced the story was a hoax and specifically cleared a Fishkill police officer and Pagones. Pagones sued Sharpton and the other 2 advisers for more than $150 million for defamation. At this point, Sharpton's involvements is similar to George Bush and the Iraqi uranium purchase forgeries -- it's unclear if he was actively involved in fraud, or just recklessly willing to use information he knew was very shaky to make his political point.

The other turning point came in 1991 when Sharpton was stabbed by a drunk white man during a protest march in Bensonhurst; after that he began to mellow. "There are times [since the stabbing] when I've found him remarkable and responsible," says critic Stanley Crouch. He recalls that after the murder of Yusuf Hawkins, a young black man from Brooklyn, Sharpton brought together Hawkins' stepfather with one of the group of white boys that had killed his son. "This would have been more recognized had it been someone like Giuliani," says Crouch. "After the Diallo verdict, he discouraged people from being violent," warning locals in New York that violence would not only put them in harm's way, but it would reduce them to the low level from which the unjust verdict originated," he notes. "So you have these great moments. He's also taken a more mature vision of the police and moved to differentiate those good white cops, who enforce the law properly in tough and often dangerous environments, and bad cops)."
Not exactly who I would want speaking for me were I of color.
jsnipy
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Funny how this morning on Today (talking about the Imus issue), Jesse Jackson was saying how there were no black host on nbc, etc, and asked "Can we use this time to desegregate the media?" ... well how many white hosts are there on BET?
coldplay
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this has nothing to do about if kayne west or al sharpton or jesse jackon would get off if they said these type of things, its ALL about that old white ass imus calling them college women nappy headed hoes,he called them prostutute's that charge money for sex,and saying an old racist nappy head stereo trype,he disrespected these women on so many levels personaly,he needs his ass kicked for real in real life get seued for everything he has
blademaster
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jsnipy wrote:

Funny how this morning on Today (talking about the Imus issue), Jesse Jackson was saying how there were no black host on nbc, etc, and asked "Can we use this time to desegregate the media?" ... well how many white hosts are there on BET?
not sure how many but after reading some stuff I think there are not any, you have to be African-American decent to work for them.

about Imus his show is not that bad, yeah what he said was wrong.

Last edited by blademaster (2007-04-10 04:56:49)

Mason4Assassin444
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Imus has been past his prime for so long this is ridiculous. He is a fuckhead redneck. He slipped up. In two weeks everyone will have something else to talk about. Personally, its time for him to retire....like back in 81' or so.
Jet Blast
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Moved to D&ST

Eh...I think he went too far
Let's think for a second.

Would Al or Jackson have a problem with music artists calling women hoes?  Are they calling for black artists to be fired for using that term?  What about when a comedian uses that term?  Do they call for them to get fired?  No.

Some southern white males get offended when you call them a redneck.  Yet they buy CD's called "redneck woman." 

Gay people get offended when you use the term "queer."  Yet it is ok to use in the name of a TV show as long as you profit of it.

Let's just call this what it is, hypocritical bullshit.

Last edited by Jet Blast (2007-04-10 08:18:36)

jsnipy
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Jet Blast wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Moved to D&ST

Eh...I think he went too far
Let's think for a second.

Would Al or Jackson have a problem with music artists calling women hoes?  Are they calling for black artists to be fired for using that term?  What about when a comedian uses that term?  Do they call for them to get fired?  No.

Some southern white males get offended when you call them a redneck.  Yet they buy CD's called "redneck woman." 

Gay people get offended when you use the term "queer."  Yet it is ok to use in the name of a TV show as long as you profit of it.

Let's just call this what it is, hypocritical bullshit.
like as a gamer,  if I call you a nub, you might take offense. But if you call yourself a nub in humor, its ok ....
Mason4Assassin444
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Jet Blast wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Moved to D&ST

Eh...I think he went too far
Let's think for a second.

Would Al or Jackson have a problem with music artists calling women hoes?  Are they calling for black artists to be fired for using that term?  What about when a comedian uses that term?  Do they call for them to get fired?  No.

Some southern white males get offended when you call them a redneck.  Yet they buy CD's called "redneck woman." 

Gay people get offended when you use the term "queer."  Yet it is ok to use in the name of a TV show as long as you profit of it.

Let's just call this what it is, hypocritical bullshit.
Negative. I think the "Nappy" combined with "ho's" was the over the top racist part. Especially to a college basketball team. These aren't the poor black people every conservative thinks is draining thier income due to welfare. THese are those people that are making something of themselves and going to college. But I guess you can't win being black.  And considering its a morning talkshow. Its not like a 1am howard stern episode.

Both Sharpton and Jackson have denounced Gangsta rap as Oprah has. Redneck is not even close to the same as N***** or nappy headed ho. A comedian using the term nappy headed ho? Find that one for me. QUeer is a fine word, except when your using it to demean someone.

You cant really defend Imus here. He fucked up. He gets two weeks off. End of story.

Last edited by Mason4Assassin444 (2007-04-10 08:25:01)

Jet Blast
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Jet Blast wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Moved to D&ST

Eh...I think he went too far
Let's think for a second.

Would Al or Jackson have a problem with music artists calling women hoes?  Are they calling for black artists to be fired for using that term?  What about when a comedian uses that term?  Do they call for them to get fired?  No.

Some southern white males get offended when you call them a redneck.  Yet they buy CD's called "redneck woman." 

Gay people get offended when you use the term "queer."  Yet it is ok to use in the name of a TV show as long as you profit of it.

Let's just call this what it is, hypocritical bullshit.
Negative. I think the "Nappy" combined with "ho's" was the over the top racist part. And considering its a morning talkshow. Its not like a 1am howard stern episode.

Both Sharpton and Jackson have denounced Gangsta rap as Oprah has. Redneck is not even close to the same as N***** or nappy headed ho. A comedian using the term nappy headed ho? Find that one for me. QUeer is a fine word, except when your using it to demean someone.

You cant really defend Imus here. He fucked up. He gets two weeks off. End of story.
They might denounce, but I do not see then calling for people to be fired......unless they are white.
Mason4Assassin444
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Jet Blast wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Jet Blast wrote:


Let's think for a second.

Would Al or Jackson have a problem with music artists calling women hoes?  Are they calling for black artists to be fired for using that term?  What about when a comedian uses that term?  Do they call for them to get fired?  No.

Some southern white males get offended when you call them a redneck.  Yet they buy CD's called "redneck woman." 

Gay people get offended when you use the term "queer."  Yet it is ok to use in the name of a TV show as long as you profit of it.

Let's just call this what it is, hypocritical bullshit.
Negative. I think the "Nappy" combined with "ho's" was the over the top racist part. And considering its a morning talkshow. Its not like a 1am howard stern episode.

Both Sharpton and Jackson have denounced Gangsta rap as Oprah has. Redneck is not even close to the same as N***** or nappy headed ho. A comedian using the term nappy headed ho? Find that one for me. QUeer is a fine word, except when your using it to demean someone.

You cant really defend Imus here. He fucked up. He gets two weeks off. End of story.
They might denounce, but I do not see then calling for people to be fired......unless they are white.
Gangsta Rap will be protected by Freedom of Speech as he/she (the rapper) is considered an artist portraying his views. Not the views of the record company. You can debate that if you like.

Imus works and is under contract for MSNBC/NBC. WHat he says is considered NBC talking. He cannot represent NBC and say the shit he said without NBC taking the brunt. He's lucky all he got was a two week suspension.
Jet Blast
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The word "ho" is used everywhere.  Who gives a rats ass if it was said on NBC?
Mason4Assassin444
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Jet Blast wrote:

The word "ho" is used everywhere.  Who gives a rats ass if it was said on NBC?
BEcause he called the whole Rutger's women's basketball team a bunch of nappy ho's. If Al Sharpton called the Yale Row Team a bunch a fair skinned crackers, I bet you'd seem him being splattered all over the news.

Lets try this perspective.

Your a black woman (i know, bear with me). Your watching MSNBC news in the morning and Imus comes on. THey begin talking about the Rutgers Basketball team. Then you hear his comment that this team of black women are some "nappy ho's". How would you feel?

TO hear the gangsta rap, you have to buy the cd. To be watching the news and hear this shit, on a national news channel, yeah thats an issue.
Jet Blast
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I have heard the word "ho" on many radio stations and TV shows just by flipping thru the channels.

Simple fact is although the guy is a tool, he should be covered under the same speech rights as anyone else on TV or radio.
Mason4Assassin444
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Jet Blast wrote:

I have heard the word "ho" on many radio stations and TV shows just by flipping thru the channels.

Simple fact is although the guy is a tool, he should be covered under the same speech rights as anyone else on TV or radio.
Sure, a ho is a term for a whore. If a chick on My Name Is Earl is an actual prostitute, that makes sense.

These were women playing basketball for a black college, and they were't called ho's. They were called nappy ho's.

Nappy meaning BLACK. Ho's meaning they are all whores.  So on national television he called the whole team Black Whores.

Maybe Collegiate Black Whores would have been better.
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With all of this white guilting, this is what the US will turn into ....
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=69447
Villain{NY}
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The worst part about this farse is Sharpton gets yet more undeserved publicity.  Yes Imus probably went too far but this is America and he has the right to say anything he wants.
Jet Blast
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Jet Blast wrote:

I have heard the word "ho" on many radio stations and TV shows just by flipping thru the channels.

Simple fact is although the guy is a tool, he should be covered under the same speech rights as anyone else on TV or radio.
Sure, a ho is a term for a whore. If a chick on My Name Is Earl is an actual prostitute, that makes sense.

These were women playing basketball for a black college, and they were't called ho's. They were called nappy ho's.

Nappy meaning BLACK. Ho's meaning they are all whores.  So on national television he called the whole team Black Whores.

Maybe Collegiate Black Whores would have been better.
Rutgers is a black college?

Nappy meaning cornrolls and prison tats IMO.

See, we can't agree on what it means either.

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