rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6989
I wish the sailors would have refused even if it would have meant death. Than we could have really fucked Iran into yesteryear.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina
This is similar to the "confessions" of that shiekh we've held captive for a while now.

The soldiers are being put up to say these things.  Ahmadinejad is doing his best to turn this into a spectacle.

Basically, he's the Jerry Springer of world leaders....
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio
Diplomacy shall prevail!


/sarcasm
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7139|Sweden
This is disgusting reminds me of the cold war when some important priest in hungary ( not 100% on country here ) was a huge opponent against the russian occupation then the russians brain washed the poor fella and after some days he was speaking with heat how wonderful russia was.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7149|California

...They are being held captive. Iranians told them to say that?
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6719|Éire

rawls2 wrote:

I wish the sailors would have refused even if it would have meant death. Than we could have really fucked Iran into yesteryear.
Totally ridiculous, I guess you really like death. You would have preferred the possible death of the sailors and the inevitable deaths a military strategy would no doubt incur just so as you could take out some Iranians ...unbelievable attitude.

Turquoise wrote:

This is similar to the "confessions" of that shiekh we've held captive for a while now.

The soldiers are being put up to say these things.  Ahmadinejad is doing his best to turn this into a spectacle.

Basically, he's the Jerry Springer of world leaders....
I agree, these confessions aren't worth the paper they're written on. They're no better than Guantanamo bay confessions in my opinion.
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|7145|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX
Of course there weren't any armed Iranians in the room when he said that...


/sarcasm
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Braddock wrote:

Totally ridiculous, I guess you really like death.
Would be nice if I saw you react to other peoples mention of killing people like that.......like Cam's.
BVC
Member
+325|7124
A confession made under duress is not a confession.  If the "confession" were made at a press conference in London it would hold more water.  TBH, this confession is about as genuine as that of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Last edited by Pubic (2007-03-30 18:07:01)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6719|Éire

usmarine2007 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Totally ridiculous, I guess you really like death.
Would be nice if I saw you react to other peoples mention of killing people like that.......like Cam's.
Paste a link to one of his posts and i'll post a response if I see fit.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Braddock wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Totally ridiculous, I guess you really like death.
Would be nice if I saw you react to other peoples mention of killing people like that.......like Cam's.
Paste a link to one of his posts and i'll post a response if I see fit.
Oh you did respond, but not in disgust like here.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66691
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7030|132 and Bush

Pubic wrote:

A confession made under duress is not a confession.
Impressive.. If they did an "unlawful act" or used coercion than no, it is not a confession in a court of law (at least our courts).
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Pubic wrote:

A confession made under duress is not a confession.
How do you get people to confess then?  Give them a lolly pop?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7030|132 and Bush

usmarine2007 wrote:

Pubic wrote:

A confession made under duress is not a confession.
How do you get people to confess then?  Give them a lolly pop?
I was speaking in terms of the law. In order for it to be allowed in our courts it must be completely of free will.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Would be nice if I saw you react to other peoples mention of killing people like that.......like Cam's.
Paste a link to one of his posts and i'll post a response if I see fit.
Oh you did respond, but not in disgust like here.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66691
Now wait a minute...  You're saying that you don't want to see Mugabe dead?

If there's any country worthy of invasion, Zimbabwe is it.  Yes, I know I'm usually an isolationist, but invading Zimbabwe would actually be a moral thing to do, for the most part.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Paste a link to one of his posts and i'll post a response if I see fit.
Oh you did respond, but not in disgust like here.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66691
Now wait a minute...  You're saying that you don't want to see Mugabe dead?

If there's any country worthy of invasion, Zimbabwe is it.  Yes, I know I'm usually an isolationist, but invading Zimbabwe would actually be a moral thing to do, for the most part.
No, that is not what I am saying.  Please read again.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Pubic wrote:

A confession made under duress is not a confession.
How do you get people to confess then?  Give them a lolly pop?
I was speaking in terms of the law. In order for it to be allowed in our courts it must be completely of free will.
Doubt that ever happens.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Oh you did respond, but not in disgust like here.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66691
Now wait a minute...  You're saying that you don't want to see Mugabe dead?

If there's any country worthy of invasion, Zimbabwe is it.  Yes, I know I'm usually an isolationist, but invading Zimbabwe would actually be a moral thing to do, for the most part.
No, that is not what I am saying.  Please read again.
Right, but you were comparing someone else's desire to see the British captives die in order for the war with Iran to begin and Cam's declaration that Mugabe needs to die.

Those are two very different things.  Iran may be a fucked up country, but Zimbabwe takes things to another level.  Mugabe makes Ahmadinejad look like Mr. Rogers.  Hell, I'd actually say he was worse than Saddam.

We can agree that Mugabe needs to die, but invading Iran is a different matter.  First, we need to get the captives back safely.  Failing that, I guess invasion is imminent.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio
Wishing death is wishing death right?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6834|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

Wishing death is wishing death right?
I can't speak for Braddock, but for me, wishing death on a dictator is much more acceptable than wishing it on captives.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Wishing death is wishing death right?
I can't speak for Braddock, but for me, wishing death on a dictator is much more acceptable than wishing it on captives.
I agree.


I was just trying to make a point with him that is all.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7030|132 and Bush

usmarine2007 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

How do you get people to confess then?  Give them a lolly pop?
I was speaking in terms of the law. In order for it to be allowed in our courts it must be completely of free will.
Doubt that ever happens.
It is attempted frequently when the defendant confesses. A recent case here is Florida saw such a tactic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lunsford . The confessions stand the majority of the time.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6796|Columbus, Ohio

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I was speaking in terms of the law. In order for it to be allowed in our courts it must be completely of free will.
Doubt that ever happens.
It is attempted frequently when the defendant confesses. A recent case here is Florida saw such a tactic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lunsford . The confessions stand the majority of the time.
That dude was a nut.

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-03-30 18:23:20)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6719|Éire

usmarine2007 wrote:

Oh you did respond, but not in disgust like here.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=66691
My response in that thread just states that I believe in isolationism. I don't see where you're drawing a parallel here. Isolationism does not promote or condone the killing of people it simply prefers that people in a sovereign nation attempt to solve their problems themselves as outside interference often only leads to more problems and in many cases more deaths.

EDIT: I'd like to see the international world put much more pressure on Mugabe and I would personally be happy enough if the Zimbabweans themselves managed to take Mugabe out. He's a scumbag.

Last edited by Braddock (2007-03-30 18:35:04)

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