| Yes, it belongs outlawed along with canabis. | 25% | 25% - 78 | ||||
| Yes | 16% | 16% - 51 | ||||
| Don't know, don't care. | 4% | 4% - 13 | ||||
| No - I smoke | 6% | 6% - 21 | ||||
| No - I don't smoke | 13% | 13% - 40 | ||||
| No - and canabis should be made legal. | 33% | 33% - 103 | ||||
| Total: 306 | ||||||
How does that compare to the cost imposed on society due to the healthcare requirements of smokers?KILLSWITCH wrote:
I voted no, even though i don't smoke. The huge amount of taxes that smokers pay means that the non-smokers benefit by paying lower taxes.
Though nicely hidden, that is a personal attack, and something I will not tolerate. If you want to bullshit someone, go in the Junk section.jsnipy wrote:
I too have have tried them all as well, many times, and then some. I think it is all in the individual, if you have latent retardation, then weed will amplify that. The fact is weed is no more a detriment than drinking. Having said I could not suggest something that illegal.
Perception is a fickle thing, because it is relative to each particular individual. My friends mother is a very artsy type (cough hippie cough) who grew up in the 60s, but she said she never could smoke weed with her friends growing up because it made her too paranoid to enjoy it. Others smoke weed and feel great, and can still function at perfectly normal mental capacity. (Carl Sagan, anyone?) Some people can, even before they are "experienced" with alcohol or drugs, naturally handle themselves better after several drinks/hits than others. Some people can take hallucinagens and enjoy it, while someone else taking the same amount, from the same batch, has an amazingly terrifying and horrible experience. In short, everyone is different.NemeSiS-Factor wrote:
As far as marijuana goes, I don't think anything that warps your perception at all should be legal. No, not even booze. Look at MOST of the drug busts that go on in the United States. Most of them are found out when they're pulled over, in a car. I've heard alot of you retards claiming that being high is okay, as long as you don't operate machinery or something. Well you have no perception, whats stopping you from going out for a spin after a bowl? Just your mind saying "No, thats a bad idea." But wait, your baked. Your going out anyway. That being said, alcohol, and cannabis, should be made illegal, but I think it would be a bad idea. Maybe the usage would go down if it was made legal, but I just don't see it happening.
I hadn't overlooked that, but to be honest the huge taxes that smokers pay far outweigh the strain on the NHS. Thats the way it is in the UK anyway. Therefore in a monetary sense, non-smokers win.mcminty wrote:
How does that compare to the cost imposed on society due to the healthcare requirements of smokers?KILLSWITCH wrote:
I voted no, even though i don't smoke. The huge amount of taxes that smokers pay means that the non-smokers benefit by paying lower taxes.
Everyone has to pay that cost.
Mcminty.
I dunno about this, we'd probably have to get some data to back your statement up. But in the end effect, as is said many times, it's being selfish to smoke...KILLSWITCH wrote:
I hadn't overlooked that, but to be honest the huge taxes that smokers pay far outweigh the strain on the NHS. Thats the way it is in the UK anyway. Therefore in a monetary sense, non-smokers win.
Estimated cost to NHS: £1.5 billion per yearKonfusion0 wrote:
I dunno about this, we'd probably have to get some data to back your statement up. But in the end effect, as is said many times, it's being selfish to smoke...KILLSWITCH wrote:
I hadn't overlooked that, but to be honest the huge taxes that smokers pay far outweigh the strain on the NHS. Thats the way it is in the UK anyway. Therefore in a monetary sense, non-smokers win.
-konfusion
"Get the whole society fucked up"??? I don't get strung out on drugs now, and I won't if it is legalized. I am sure I am not alone. I put personal responsibility and choice at the head of the line.How 'bout you??Konfusion0 wrote:
Great. Great job, no? Get the whole society fucked up. Make it so that no one talks any more - you'll just hear people snorting.lowing wrote:
Absolutley, legalize all drugs. Why do I give a shit if someone wants to OD on coccaine or crack? It is their choice. Just put the same stipulations on it that we do alcohol. No crack and driving.Hurricane wrote:
What about heroin and cocaine and the like then? Should we legalize that too?
At some point in their lives, ( BEFORE they are addicted to drugs) they had to make a conscience decision to take it in the first place. So I have no sympathy.
Legalize it, tax the shit out of it, and relieve the burdon of the tax payers for other social programs.
Are you crazy? Making those drugs easy to get is the worst possible thing you could do to society. Do you want to destroy your country?
-konfusion
I do, I'm just not too sure about the rest of the world out there. Can you account for everyone else out there?lowing wrote:
"Get the whole society fucked up"??? I don't get strung out on drugs now, and I won't if it is legalized. I am sure I am not alone. I put personal responsibility and choice at the head of the line.How 'bout you??
I have been hit broadside by a pot-head. The guy was high, and was also transporting 28 pounds of it in his trunk. It was in the middle of an intersection and the guy ran a red light and nailed me at 35mph. The pedestrian witnesses said if I hadn't bee there, he would have swept right through the intersection and nailed them. It was a pregnant mother and her 4 year old daughter. Also, the guy didn't have insurance, so I ended up selling my car at a scrap yard and buying a brand new one. Luckily he hit me in the right side. Otherwise he would have fucked me up as well as my car. My financial status still isn't near good, and this was over 2 years ago. That guy is a stupid SOB, and not for getting high while he was driving, but for getting high in the first place. He actually smoked a bowl at home, and then decided he was okay to run the shit over to his friends. Still think being high is alright? There could have been 2 fatalities that day.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Ever been high?NemeSiS-Factor wrote:
I've heard alot of you retards claiming that being high is okay
Not everyone is retarded that thinks being high is ok and guess what, some people don't even smoke it and think its ok. Weird shit huh? Until your robbed by a pothead, struck in a vehicle by a pothead, or shot by a pothead, lets assume all of them aren't retarded.
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i might have dreamed it, but i got rid of my bong, so i dont think so.NemeSiS-Factor wrote:
I would like to hear someones opinion of your life who is clear of mind. You seem illiterate, and for all you know, you could have dreamed all that up after your latest bong hit.
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Oh, wow, 25. You really have lived your whole life and proven that there are no ill iffects. Marijuana's dangers are long term, not short.Parker wrote:
i smoke everyday and i laugh at people like you.
ya, my life is really falling apart from smoking pot......
25, married, run my own business and looking at going big time real soon.
works for me man, sorry you are so weak minded to have to believe that shit.
you would make a good DARE officer though......you remind me of mine.
dont come to flame in this thread cause you got trounced in the other thread.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, wow, 25. You really have lived your whole life and proven that there are no ill iffects. Marijuana's dangers are long term, not short.Parker wrote:
i smoke everyday and i laugh at people like you.
ya, my life is really falling apart from smoking pot......
25, married, run my own business and looking at going big time real soon.
works for me man, sorry you are so weak minded to have to believe that shit.
you would make a good DARE officer though......you remind me of mine.
Uhh... he's right. Cannabis's long-term affects are similar to that of tobacco's. After a few years you wouldn't notice much.Parker wrote:
dont come to flame in this thread cause you got trounced in the other thread.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, wow, 25. You really have lived your whole life and proven that there are no ill iffects. Marijuana's dangers are long term, not short.Parker wrote:
i smoke everyday and i laugh at people like you.
ya, my life is really falling apart from smoking pot......
25, married, run my own business and looking at going big time real soon.
works for me man, sorry you are so weak minded to have to believe that shit.
you would make a good DARE officer though......you remind me of mine.
guess what? i dont care about what your teachers told you in class today bubbalo, so you can shove it up your ass......now go answer the question in the other thread.
be that as it may, i would rather smoke than drink, and im happy, and thats all that matters.Spark wrote:
Uhh... he's right. Cannabis's long-term affects are similar to that of tobacco's. After a few years you wouldn't notice much.Parker wrote:
dont come to flame in this thread cause you got trounced in the other thread.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, wow, 25. You really have lived your whole life and proven that there are no ill iffects. Marijuana's dangers are long term, not short.
guess what? i dont care about what your teachers told you in class today bubbalo, so you can shove it up your ass......now go answer the question in the other thread.
Agreed.Spark wrote:
Legalize them all. But make users register
Then, if they register, give them whatever they need, but deny them any medical care from resulting symptoms.
Trounced? Hardly. You're still failing to demonstrate your supposed higher knowledge in an ongoing debate.Parker wrote:
dont come to flame in this thread cause you got trounced in the other thread.
Well that's good seen as how they don't exist. I would, however, think that medical science would be important. Or does your lifetime of experience trounce their years and years of research and recorded cases?Parker wrote:
guess what? i dont care about what your teachers told you in class today bubbalo,
As you wish, master .Parker wrote:
so you can shove it up your ass......now go answer the question in the other thread.
I agree totally,i smoke both pot and cigs every day,but id rather pot be legal and smokes outlawed....but we know thats never gonna happen as the governments make to much tax/revenue outta the cigs.ghettoperson wrote:
Where's the yes, but legalise cannabis option?
Nope I can not "account for everyone else out there". See, the beauty of "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY" is, I do not HAVE to account for everyone else out there, just me, and my kids, until they are 18. THAT is how personal responsibility works. Pretty neat stuff I think.Konfusion0 wrote:
I do, I'm just not too sure about the rest of the world out there. Can you account for everyone else out there?lowing wrote:
"Get the whole society fucked up"??? I don't get strung out on drugs now, and I won't if it is legalized. I am sure I am not alone. I put personal responsibility and choice at the head of the line.How 'bout you??
-konfusion
PS:@UON: thanks for the numbers
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