Why Aren't Norway and Switzerland in the EU?

2007-03-25 08:44:45

#1

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

I think becoming members of the EU was a key factor in the growth of many countries. A fine example would be Ireland, which has now a strong economy and it ranks very well in GDP, HDI and other indexes.
In 2005, Dutch and French voters rejected their governments' plans to ratify the European constitution. Do these countries think they would be better out of the EU?
Why aren't countries like Norway and Switzerland members of the EU?

2007-03-25 08:45:41

#2

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6984

Because theyr'e stinking rich, fully 100% developed and joining the EU would only be to their detriment? I was in both Norway and Switzerland recently - there really is nothing left to improve: they are about as close to perfect societies as you can get.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-25 08:46:30)

2007-03-25 08:48:07

#3

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

CameronPoe wrote:
Because theyr'e stinking rich, fully 100% developed and joining the EU would only be to their detriment? I was in both Norway and Switzerland recently - there really is nothing left to improve: they are about as close to perfect societies as you can get.

So, why is Sweden there?

2007-03-25 08:50:44

#4

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6996|NYC / Hamburg

speaking for Switzerland: we have just signed the "Bilateralen II" which gives us all of the trade benefits (and more) of the EU but still being able to keep the political decisions to ourself. We are a very democratic country and the system of the EU does not fit us. There is no real reason to join, because it would only hurt our economy

Last edited by max (2007-03-25 08:52:59)

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2007-03-25 08:51:14

#5

liquidat0r: wtf.; +2,223|7056|UK

Maybe they don't want to be. (Guess)

The same way that my country doesn't seem to want to lose the GBP.

2007-03-25 08:52:28

#6

^*AlphA*^: F*ckers; +3,135|7167|The Hague, Netherlands

because both Switzerland and Norway wouldn't gain anything if they'd join, most nation joined because it was/is an advantage for them.

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2007-03-25 08:52:39

#7

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7239|Nårvei

Actually there are lots left to improve but thats nothing the EU can help us with

Both the EU elections we had in 1972 and 1994 was by the closest possible margins and both where turned down by the Norwegian population.

The two biggest groups against membership is the farmers and the fish related industry who think they`ll be out of work if we join the Union.

We might be stinkin rich now but that`s not a certain fact for the future and i believe in the long run we would benefit from a membership !

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2007-03-25 08:53:19

#8

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6984

sergeriver wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Because theyr'e stinking rich, fully 100% developed and joining the EU would only be to their detriment? I was in both Norway and Switzerland recently - there really is nothing left to improve: they are about as close to perfect societies as you can get.
So, why is Sweden there?

That is an odd one actually. I'd say at the time they weighed up the options and thought that they might be left out in the cold economically if all the European nations stopped trading with them in an EU (potentially). They gambled on whether or not it would actually benefit them and it turns out it didn't detrimentally affect them but it didn't do all that much for them.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-25 08:54:09)

2007-03-25 08:55:47

#9

Raphi: Banned; +354|6687|Basel, Switzerland

max wrote:
speaking for Switzerland: we have just signed the "Bilateralen II" which gives us all of the trade benefits (and more) of the EU but still being able to keep the political decisions to ourself. We are a very democratic country and the system of the EU does not fit us. There is no real reason to join, because it would only hurt our economy

Switzerland pwns.

2007-03-25 08:56:26

#10

^*AlphA*^: F*ckers; +3,135|7167|The Hague, Netherlands

sergeriver wrote:
In 2005, Dutch and French voters rejected their governments' plans to ratify the European constitution. Do these countries think they would be better out of the EU?

not really, our NO vote, wasn't directly to the Constitution but more of a way to say "there are other problems to solve first"

but since Holland was a co founder of the EU back in the '50s we won't leave it.

2007-03-25 08:57:23

#11

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6996|NYC / Hamburg

KillahStyle wrote:
max wrote:
speaking for Switzerland: we have just signed the "Bilateralen II" which gives us all of the trade benefits (and more) of the EU but still being able to keep the political decisions to ourself. We are a very democratic country and the system of the EU does not fit us. There is no real reason to join, because it would only hurt our economy
Switzerland pwns.

hell yes. banks are sworn to secrecy and we have low taxes. what else would one want?

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2007-03-25 08:58:10

#12

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

Varegg wrote:
Actually there are lots left to improve but thats nothing the EU can help us with

Both the EU elections we had in 1972 and 1994 was by the closest possible margins and both where turned down by the Norwegian population.

The two biggest groups against membership is the farmers and the fish related industry who think they`ll be out of work if we join the Union.

We might be stinkin rich now but that`s not a certain fact for the future and i believe in the long run we would benefit from a membership !

I think you may be right in this one. Although your country is rich, wouldn't it be better for Norway to be a member of the EU in order to get better deals when it comes to negotiate resources supplies with Russia for instance? I'm just asking, I don't know the details.

2007-03-25 08:58:12

#13

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|7078

sergeriver wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Because theyr'e stinking rich, fully 100% developed and joining the EU would only be to their detriment? I was in both Norway and Switzerland recently - there really is nothing left to improve: they are about as close to perfect societies as you can get.
So, why is Sweden there?

Norway economically wise is richer then Sweden. As CamPoe said, we are filthy stinking rich and if we joined the EU and left the EAA then certain regulations would ultimately put strains on our, currently, booming economy. Our GDP is filthy stinkingingly high and I believe much higher then Sweden's.

Plus, I think there is something to do with our fishing market but I can't remember whether this is correct or not. You must also remember that although we'd hate to admit it, Norwegians are very conservative and joining the EU is something the majority of us are against.

Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2007-03-25 09:00:51)

2007-03-25 08:59:12

#14

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7186|Argentina

max wrote:
KillahStyle wrote:
max wrote:
speaking for Switzerland: we have just signed the "Bilateralen II" which gives us all of the trade benefits (and more) of the EU but still being able to keep the political decisions to ourself. We are a very democratic country and the system of the EU does not fit us. There is no real reason to join, because it would only hurt our economy
Switzerland pwns.
hell yes. banks are sworn to secrecy and we have low taxes. what else would one want?

Resources?

2007-03-25 09:00:13

#15

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6996|NYC / Hamburg

sergeriver wrote:
max wrote:
KillahStyle wrote:

Switzerland pwns.
hell yes. banks are sworn to secrecy and we have low taxes. what else would one want?
Resources?

who needs that when you have 1/3 of all private wealth in your country. Also we have cows

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2007-03-25 09:01:05

#16

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7100|UK

doesnt a pint of beer cost like 20 quid or something in Norway?

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2007-03-25 09:01:39

#17

herrr_smity: Member; +156|7056|space command ur anus

because we wont let our resources get looted by the EU

2007-03-25 09:05:21

#18

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7239|Nårvei

m3thod wrote:
doesnt a pint of beer cost like 20 quid or something in Norway?

About 50 nok, 4.5£ or 6€.

A package of 20 cigarettes costs 75 nok, 6.5£ or 9.2€.

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2007-03-25 09:08:35

#19

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7145

Varegg wrote:
m3thod wrote:
doesnt a pint of beer cost like 20 quid or something in Norway?
About 50 nok, 4.5£ or 6€.

A package of 20 cigarettes costs 75 nok, 6.5£ or 9.2€.

Lawl your high GDP gets pwned by expensive goods

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2007-03-25 09:08:43

#20

CoronadoSEAL: pics or it didn't happen; +207|6947|USA

CameronPoe wrote:
they are about as close to perfect societies as you can get.

definition of perfect = debatable.

2007-03-25 09:10:00

#21

herrr_smity: Member; +156|7056|space command ur anus

CoronadoSEAL wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
they are about as close to perfect societies as you can get.
definition of perfect = debatable.

true

2007-03-25 09:11:55

#22

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7239|Nårvei

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Varegg wrote:
m3thod wrote:
doesnt a pint of beer cost like 20 quid or something in Norway?
About 50 nok, 4.5£ or 6€.

A package of 20 cigarettes costs 75 nok, 6.5£ or 9.2€.
Lawl your high GDP gets pwned by expensive goods

That why Norwegians go to Sweden on shopping, and Swedes goes to Denmark and the Danes goes to Germany !

The Fins are just stupid mofos sitting in their Sauna drinking piss straight off eachother

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2007-03-25 09:15:30

#23

^*AlphA*^: F*ckers; +3,135|7167|The Hague, Netherlands

Varegg wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Varegg wrote:

About 50 nok, 4.5£ or 6€.

A package of 20 cigarettes costs 75 nok, 6.5£ or 9.2€.
Lawl your high GDP gets pwned by expensive goods
That why Norwegians go to Sweden on shopping, and Swedes goes to Denmark and the Danes goes to Germany !

The Fins are just stupid mofos sitting in their Sauna drinking piss straight off eachother

and all come here to smoke some pot and to partyyyyyyyyyyyyy !

well Serg, 4 replies and you know how Europe (EU) thinks !

2007-03-25 09:42:44

#24

Negerkungen: I could not care less; +541|7171|Topside

sergeriver wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Actually there are lots left to improve but thats nothing the EU can help us with

Both the EU elections we had in 1972 and 1994 was by the closest possible margins and both where turned down by the Norwegian population.

The two biggest groups against membership is the farmers and the fish related industry who think they`ll be out of work if we join the Union.

We might be stinkin rich now but that`s not a certain fact for the future and i believe in the long run we would benefit from a membership !
I think you may be right in this one. Although your country is rich, wouldn't it be better for Norway to be a member of the EU in order to get better deals when it comes to negotiate resources supplies with Russia for instance? I'm just asking, I don't know the details.

When you join EU there comes a lot of unwanted crap in the deal,a lot of stupid regulations that some idiot in Brussels came up with when he took a dump.For example,in Sweden we have a lot of cows,horses and sheep's and they have roamed around on the open fields since the dawn of time.And then this prick in Brussels comes up with a law that says that all farmers must build big shelters for the animals,because all of a sudden they can't sleep under the bare sky.I mean WTF???

2007-03-25 09:44:53

#25

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7060|Finland

Oh, and northern Swedes get their beer and cigarettes from Finland.

@ Varegg, I haven't been to a sauna for ages! But I'll drink you under the table anyday!
..wait.. no I won't.. I need a sniff of the bottlecap and I'm wasted.

Ya I know, hardly D&ST material.

I need around tree fiddy.

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