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lowing
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Turquoise
O Canada
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I've never cared for hybrids.  Then again, I don't care for Psions or Hummers either.

Mazda FTW!
Ajax_the_Great1
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+206|5980
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ATG
Banned
+5,233|5862|Global Command
I really want to post a LOL pix right now.https://i18.tinypic.com/35lgd9u.gif
HunterOfSkulls
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+246|5613
The Prius is an overpriced toy for lip-service environmentalists and trustifarians who want to show off to their friends while pretending to actually give a crap about the environment. "Look, it's a hybrid, isn't it cool?", meanwhile driving everywhere when they could easily be walking/bicycling except when necessary. It's how a fair-weather lefty justifies their desire for a constantly climate-controlled surround-sounded near-zero-exertion environment.
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|5864|Sydney, in 1978
AHAHAHAHA what a piece of crap, i should have listened to jeremy clarkson when he said the prius was crap, so that means its safe to continue driving my 1972 Galaxie!!!
Fen321
Member
+54|5831|Singularity
Personally, the author took a weird angle at analyzing the part by part cost of pollution for the hybrid battery, but could one not simply apply a part by part breakdown of pollution cost for each individual parts inside the Hummer -- the resulting being it costing more? (possibly)

Not only that we were not given a reason as to why the Hummer cost less outside of the author telling us it cost less.
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|5613

Turquoise wrote:

Mazda FTW!
No way man, Nissan 0wns you.
Seriously, we bought this Altima used about three years ago and have only had to do maintenance on it recently, brake pads needed replacing. Other than that it runs like a dream, gets fantastic gas mileage. Although if gas prices keep going up like they have been, we may be walking a hell of a lot more than we all ready do.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|5738|North Carolina

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Mazda FTW!
No way man, Nissan 0wns you.
Seriously, we bought this Altima used about three years ago and have only had to do maintenance on it recently, brake pads needed replacing. Other than that it runs like a dream, gets fantastic gas mileage. Although if gas prices keep going up like they have been, we may be walking a hell of a lot more than we all ready do.
Must make new car thread..   zoom zoom... 
Smithereener
Member
+138|5649|California
Never really found an liking for hybrids or Hummers. Both intrigued me a bit though.

I'll stick to my gash on side, scraped bumper + fender, stained seat 97' or 98' Nissan Altima thats got 120,000+ mileage. It runs decently, gets a decent mileage, and basically is a decent car. (Although I'll need to change the oil soon)

Interesting though. I would have always thought that the Prius (or Hybrids in general) would've been more beneficial to the environment.
BVC
Member
+325|6028
I guess biofuel cars are the best way to go.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6008|Canberra, AUS
This is childish, the fact that people have to try and make the environmentalists look bad and then say they're trying to help the environment.

edit for typos... environmeny...

Last edited by Spark (2007-03-20 23:25:31)

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~ Richard Feynman
PureFodder
Member
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But then again here's an example of a very environmentally friendly hybrid car.

http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/

https://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/images/AB12_15_05copy.jpg

Last edited by PureFodder (2007-03-21 01:58:51)

LaidBackNinja
Pony Slaystation
+343|6042|Charlie One Alpha
Rofl the Prius sucked anyway. Good thing there's still biofuel. Treehugger FTW. (Psst... Lowing.. actually all of us treehuggers already knew the Prius sucked )
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|5826|Connecticut
https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/989/chevytruckmy8.th.jpg
Hippies piss me off.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2007-03-21 02:29:27)

Malloy must go
Varegg
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lowing wrote:

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/editorial_item.asp?NewsID=188


Irony sucks don't it?
I`ll get this confirmed from a couple of souces and get back to you, would truly hurt my enviromental heart if this checks out to be true as i am an Prius fan
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DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+787|6018|United States of America
Well that explains why our troops aren't rollin on bustas, bustin caps from Priuses.

Turquoise wrote:

I've never cared for hybrids.  Then again, I don't care for Psions or Hummers either.
I got a LOL from your spelling of Scion, it's gonna be a good day today.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6084|Chicago.
It's seeing articles like this that make me feel better arguing with the environmentalist kids in school today.

I now have appropriate means to win the debate. Thanks.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|5852|Πάϊ
I guess I speak for many tree-huggers then...
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Varegg
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Allrighty then, seing as none of the claims in that article is documentet i really dont have to do the same to counter any of its calculations or claims but i would like to point out a few clear mistakes.

*Toyota Prius is the winner of ADAC`s eco-test twice

*With 89/90 votes elected Europes most enviromental car by ADAC.

*Top rated as the most enviromental car 2004/2005 by VCD in Germany

*The battery in the Prius is btw 100% recycleable !

*CNW Marketing claims the life span of a Hybrid car is 100.000 miles, where do they get that number from, it can easily drive 300.000 miles witch is the number given for the hummer and that is what the hole calculation of the Prius vs the Hummer in this article is based on - not research but a claim and a bad one in addition.

*The Sudbury plant where the nickel for the batteries is produced, claimed in the article to be where they tested NASA`s moon rovers ?

The Recorder wrote:

The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.
Here is a recent picture of the Sudbury plant.
http://archive.xstrata.com/falconbridge … ibrary.htm

And about CNW Marketing you can visit their website and order any research you want witch can be handy when you are loosing market shares to a foreign company like Toyota.

CNW Market : http://www.cnwmr.com/door/

The Reporter wrote:

One last fun fact for you: it takes five years to offset the premium price of a Prius. Meaning, you have to wait 60 months to save any money over a non-hybrid car because of lower gas expenses.
Again of the chart, in comparrison the cost of building the Prius equals most cars of the same size, so again total BS from the author.

And last but not least at the end of the article it is mentioned another car by Toyota, this is a standard way to increase credibillity by the author so it doesn`t look like a smear campaign.

Think this is enough to counter an poorly researched article based on research you can buy of a website !

Last edited by Varegg (2007-03-21 06:31:13)

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SEREMAKER
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https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/rideordie31/5a_12.jpg

I'll stick with Hummer ( I wish they still made H1 )

https://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c211/nessy99/hummer.jpg

If only that was a prius under there
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.:XDR:.PureFodder
Member
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SEREMAKER wrote:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/ … /5a_12.jpg

I'll stick with Hummer ( I wish they still made H1 )

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c211/ … hummer.jpg

If only that was a prius under there
I think I'll avoid a Hummer as it won't fit down my road.
zeidmaan
Member
+234|5748|Vienna

Varegg summed it up nicely. Just because it says so on the Internets doesn't make it true.
Just by reading the article and the style it was written in you can see that its BS.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|5961|space command ur anus
shit the hummer is an ugly car. do any of you remember when they got the bright idea to use unleaded gasoline in cars, and the car manufacturers said that the engines couldn't take it, but they were wrong.

Last edited by herrr_smity (2007-03-21 08:15:06)

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