BF2S Forums Corporate sponsership of terrorism

Damn bananas.

ATG wrote:

This is silly. The government of the region and the United States do shit to stop the narco-terrorist ( or at least, not enough ) and everybody wants to see Chiquita ass raped.

Kind of reminds me of those who say arrest the small business owner because he hires illegal aliens and turn around and votes for asshole politicians who don't seal the border.

So, you're saying it should be legal for Chiquita to fund terror?

ATG wrote:

I'm saying that if the governments of a growing region are incapable of wiping out the bad guys we shouldn't come down a company doing legit business for paying " protection " money. As I understand it people from that company have been kidnapped and killed.

You call it funding terror, I call it the price of doing business in Colombia.

It sounds like we aren't accomplishing much in Colombia if this kind of thing is necessary.

Either we should crush these cartels unconditionally or leave the place the hell alone.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

The US Government does business to the tune of +$700 million dollars a year in Colombia.  Who funds terror now?

Good point again....   You know what CIA stands for, right?  Cocaine Importers in America (stolen from serge)

Canin wrote:

I for one will continue to by their bananas, as at least they had the balls to stand up for their employees.

He gets it.

Turquoise wrote:

ATG wrote:

I'm saying that if the governments of a growing region are incapable of wiping out the bad guys we shouldn't come down a company doing legit business for paying " protection " money. As I understand it people from that company have been kidnapped and killed.

You call it funding terror, I call it the price of doing business in Colombia.

It sounds like we aren't accomplishing much in Colombia if this kind of thing is necessary.

Either we should crush these cartels unconditionally or leave the place the hell alone.

If only our own asshole politicians weren't making money on the drugs this might be so.

Last edited by ATG (2007-03-19 20:09:51)

more than likely. But there is more profit if it is illegal.

lowing wrote:

they did this to secure the safety of its employees, right or wrong their motives were honorable, and apparently necessary. In the day of non-existant loyalty between employers and employees, I left this story actually feeling pretty good about Chiquita.

I relent...  I'm deleting my previous post....

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

they did this to secure the safety of its employees, right or wrong their motives were honorable, and apparently necessary. In the day of non-existant loyalty between employers and employees, I left this story actually feeling pretty good about Chiquita.

I relent...  I'm deleting my previous post....

I admit I didn't read the posts on here, so I don't know what post you deleted. Did I actually change a mind tonight??

You and ATG, yes....

I hate to say it, but I'm starting to think it's just the way of the world.  All terrorism included....

If you think about it, the War on Terror is rather futile, and with the world's priorities being what they are, we'll continue to see governments and corporations fund terror.  It doesn't make it right, but it's basically inevitable....

I guess the best you can do is make a buck while dodging the crossfire.  Between the agendas of the military industrial complex, the War on Drugs, and the growing problems of the world in terms of pollution, it's just a matter of continuing a short life on the planet while the powers that be throw people like you and me at each other.

Get rich or die trying...  so to speak.

Sorry, Canin...  you too... 

Turquoise wrote:

I hate to say it, but I'm starting to think it's just the way of the world.  All terrorism included....

If you think about it, the War on Terror is rather futile, and with the world's priorities being what they are, we'll continue to see governments and corporations fund terror.  It doesn't make it right, but it's basically inevitable....

I guess the best you can do is make a buck while dodging the crossfire.  Between the agendas of the military industrial complex, the War on Drugs, and the growing problems of the world in terms of pollution, it's just a matter of continuing a short life on the planet while the powers that be throw people like you and me at each other.

Get rich or die trying...  so to speak.

Such cynacism... I agree with your assessment, mostly.  I guess I have this little demented area in the back of my brain that still believes that humans can acheive a more utopian society for everyone, without having to exploit and step on people to get to the top.

Canin wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

So supporting/engaging in terrorism is ok if its being funded by a company protecting its employees?

So oil companies bribing officials in Equatorial Guinea is ok, because the oil companies are protecting their employees?  Does that mean that dictatorships are ok, as long as they let protect companies doing business in their borders?

You are going to have to sway me with a better argument than that...

Did Chiquita knowingly donate to a terrorist group? Do most or even any companies with operations in the US have a list which tells them which groups are terrorists? For that matter, groups that the US Government itself supported once upon a time are now listed as terrorist groups. A company should do whats best for its employees and their safety. I certainly dont see what dictatorships have to do with any of this, perhaps you could enlighten me.

Yes, anyone can access the FTO

The organization in question was designated a terrorist organization in 2001.  The payments stopped in 2004.

Oil companies in Equatorial Guinea pay proceeds of their oil operations in the borders of Equitorial Guinea directly to the dictator of that country.  As a result, the dictator "protects" the oil companies.  Same thing in this case, just with a US sponsered regime instead of a quasi-NGO organization.  This is nothing more than organized crime.  I refuse to support it, and I refuse to see Chiquita as a victim.