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Exxorcism wrote:

Adapt or die.

In other words:

Exxorcism wrote:

I'm not bothered by your problem so I'm going to tell you to fuck off because I'm either an asshole or too lazy to write a real reply. If I ever have a problem though you're going to help me.

You little fucking shithead

leetkyle wrote:

Adapt. You didn't code the game so you don't make the rules. Don't like it, shut the hell up and don't whine about it to us, EA won't change it. They know it works. They know people buy it. They wouldn't change something that is selling very well.

If its selling well... why is there minimal servers worldwide for it and why are most empty (Bf2 still has hundreds of servers that are full most of the time)....... and if it works, why do so many people whinge about it being shit in so many regards?

Also, everyone who thinks the tactical/strategy side is lost....are right...nothing in any game is going to "promote" teamwork...people play only for themselves and are spiteful to those they cannot see...in the servers i play(aussie) almost no one revives(& then only when tucked around a corner from u..safe). I have seen way more player apathy/spite in this game than Bf2...forceteamkills, teamkills, insults on screen, kickvotes, mutunies. The gameplay is strained and ilogical(...ie.throws nade like a fag) plus ive seen heaps of people using hacks(obviously identified by both teams usually)...headshot while bunnyhopping at 20m?.....ok....88kills-4deaths with no close combat or vehicles...ok...

Ive been getting migranes from playing this game so ive gone back to BF2.

That'll teach ya to work in squads.

boojiboy16 wrote:

adapt or die is a useless reply, and to the emp them and kill answer, I used to do that but now there are so many people with devices it is getting impossible

Short and easy reply? yes, useless? not quite.
There's some truth in his remark. In the early days man walked to a meadow, and faught eachother.
Then came WWI, and battle changed.
WWI was fought by generals who had learned about fighting on meadows and teabreaks in the afternoon.
They never realised that their tea and fingersandwich would be served with some musterdgas.
The soldier had to adapt.

WWII the Japanese realised that they could not win from the American battleship firepower. They needed a bomb that was guided. So came into play the Kamikaze.

Nuclear missiles from Russia? Star Wars (no, not the movie)

And now we are learning how to defend ourselfs against people wearing backpacks in public transport, dreaming of 72 virgins they wil collect in the afterlife.

UNFAIR, UNFAIR!! Nope! adapt or die. It's as simple as that.

Remember you're fighting a war in the future. 'They' are able to read the text on your shirt by using satelites.

Just think of the EMP bombardments, EMP grenade, signature faking, killing the person with the floating donut above his head.
Adaption of the gameplay is the key.

Now only a way to adapt to Inc. Flame121 who was abusing a wallhack on my Titan last night.

I'm not so sure I agree.  I mean even though you can detect them, you do have to still take them out and it does require that you still get the drop on them.  I've been playing support this past week to get my expert badges, and the PDS-1 has become very handy.  It didnt always guarantee me success, being able to kill my targets, but it does save your ass when your about to get over-run and have no chance except to fall back.

I like having the extra awareness now, but when your without it as another kit, its made me be extra careful when engaging other players, because they could know exactly where I am.  The tactics are still in the game, its just they are changing from what we're used to.

MrEzeuss you are still on the wrong track. The bitching is about the fact that the game lost some level of quality with the introduction of the new infantry detection gadget. So If you want to tell us how we need to adapt or die than at least say "adapt to the lower quality of the game".
This discussion has nothing to do with skill and score etc. Some may like the gadgets some may not, but you all have to agree that it simplifies the game. Knowing where most of the enemies are is not how it should be and its NOT good for gameplay.

Honestly, some of you people are the biggest crybabies that excist.
Let me sum that up:

- The SQ Leader drones : can be easily destroyed with a few well placed shots.
- Infantry Sonar : can be disabled with the new Assault Anti-Sonar grenades.
- Incoming Infantry : can be confused by dumping EMP mines on them, disabling their abillity to aim.

The issue has nothing to do with 'retarded unlocks' or a 'noob friendly' game, the issue has everything to do with the fact that people underestimate the value of some of the unlocks.

Do remember that this is a team-effort based game, thus you shouldn't all be an assault with PK74 rockets as unlocks, maybe some of you should switch class and pick the less than obvious unlocks.

zeidmaan wrote:

MrEzeuss you are still on the wrong track. The bitching is about the fact that the game lost some level of quality with the introduction of the new infantry detection gadget. So If you want to tell us how we need to adapt or die than at least say "adapt to the lower quality of the game".
This discussion has nothing to do with skill and score etc. Some may like the gadgets some may not, but you all have to agree that it simplifies the game. Knowing where most of the enemies are is not how it should be and its NOT good for gameplay.

<in the style of the good ol' De La Soul's 'what's more'>
Tell me what's more fantastic 'a hole in the head by a snipergun or a knifefight based on tactics' tell me what's more?

You tell me that the game lost a level of quality. Why? because people aren't able to hide from eachother and kick someone in the back or shoot him in the head from 5 kilometers away?
Obviously the game got harder for some people (the hunted) or else the wouldn't be making a noise.
They now have to fight for their survival it seems and learn to play as hunters.
It means they have to learn to aim on the fly, keep moving, planning tactics on forehand and they can't loiter around silos and flags anymore.

I don't see any lowering of gameplay here, i see difference in the way it was played in BF2. Different game, different set of rules.

Although i agree that the cloaking-unlock should have been one that could have been used wealding a weapon, and made you undectable (for the same ammount of time as the present unlock, we wouldn't have everyone running around cloaked).

To whoever suggested EMP grenades, that worked a treat (I'll have to wait till I unlock the anti sonar) the other team gave up trying to get me eventually. It's still a poor game compared to sneaking though. I've had no luck getting a squad to work together though, people people seem to join a squad then ignore it completely or any form of play other than cap a flag then top speed to the next one is wrong to them. I spend more time booting idiots than playing.