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2007-03-03 13:52:52
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7070|UK

Superslim wrote:

--->[Your]Phobia<--- wrote:

Superslim wrote:


No, they just want to blow it up
you sure? Because if someone’s doing the blowing its America, and you for one know that for a fact as you are their neighbour.
Im sure buddy, As far as I'm concerned, those coward fuckers should be greased by the US. For fuck sakes dude, they kill a lot of innocent people. In fact, those pyscho cunts ( Muslim clerics) have killed ten times more muslims than non muslims, what you say about that?
You need to start backing up statements like that with facts.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2007-03-03 13:55:02
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7090|Calgary

m3thod wrote:

Superslim wrote:

--->[Your]Phobia<--- wrote:


you sure? Because if someone’s doing the blowing its America, and you for one know that for a fact as you are their neighbour.
Im sure buddy, As far as I'm concerned, those coward fuckers should be greased by the US. For fuck sakes dude, they kill a lot of innocent people. In fact, those pyscho cunts ( Muslim clerics) have killed ten times more muslims than non muslims, what you say about that?
You need to start backing up statements like that with facts.
Are you serious????

*sigh*

Lost family in 9/11. Need more?:???
2007-03-03 13:56:13
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6765|Columbus, Ohio

--->[Your]Phobia<--- wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Must have access to the US Nuclear stockpile then.
I think Russia has plenty.....just sitting around.
Yeah is that your Speculation? or another 'fact' you picked up from CNN or was it FOX?
"All of these incidents served to illustrate that it was feasible for bomb-quality nuclear material to be procured in the former Soviet Union and transported across international borders. Each case was more frightening than the last because larger quantities of material were recovered."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline … /faqs.html
2007-03-03 13:56:42
m3thod
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+2,197|7070|UK

ELITE-UK wrote:

m3thod wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

Are you a muslim?
Correctamundo.

Born in the UK.
So what do you think of the war on terror then?
Doooo0oooUo0oSo0oMooo0oooo7ooooooooooooomed to failure.

You can't fight an ideology....espically against a brainwashed MINORITY

Last edited by m3thod (2007-03-03 15:21:37)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2007-03-03 13:57:27
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6999|132 and Bush

Plum_11 wrote:

The reason the "United States" backs Israel is because the people of Israel are not on TV saying they want the "Imperialist USA to burn in Hell". Islamic radicals dedicate their life work to kill every American the possible. I'm not saying that fighting in the middle east is a good thing but what i believe is that if the United States keeps fighting and US soldiers keep dieing an average Radical Islamic person in Iran (or anywhere for that matter) is going to rather go to Iraq and kill Americans before flying 10,000 miles over to America to kill people. By fighting in the middle east we traffic the majority of radicals to attack us in the middle east rather than on our own turf. US Soldiers signed up to risk their lives not civilians so the United States government feels better with a causality rate of 3,000 something of United States soldiers lives rather that civilian lives. But this is just my view on thing take it or leave it.
You can support Israeli's without all the charity. We give entirely too much to Israel. They are more capable than what is made out to be. The majority of Americans will one day recognize this. At what point did we decide to stop questioning the government on issues like this and the border. We built ourselves to be a great power on never accepting what we felt was wrong for us. I see that idea degrading before my very eyes. Again, I'm not saying don't support them, but the charity is total BS. Israeli press reported that Israel is requesting about $2.25 billion in special aid in a mix of grants and loan guarantees over four years. We are demanding that Iraqi's stand up and take control of their destiny, why haven't we done the same with Israel?

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-03 14:24:59)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-03-03 13:58:23
m3thod
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+2,197|7070|UK

Superslim wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Superslim wrote:


Im sure buddy, As far as I'm concerned, those coward fuckers should be greased by the US. For fuck sakes dude, they kill a lot of innocent people. In fact, those pyscho cunts ( Muslim clerics) have killed ten times more muslims than non muslims, what you say about that?
You need to start backing up statements like that with facts.
Are you serious????

*sigh*

Lost family in 9/11. Need more?:???
Yeah you do.  I fail to see how the death of your family members can prove that Muslims clerics have killed more muslims than none muslims.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2007-03-03 14:23:11
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6927|Global Command
If he says he lost family members in 9-11 he should be allowed to vent a little.

If you were the grandson of a Nazi complaining about the Dresden fire-bombings I might think oh well they deserved it, but I would not question their rant.

Superslim,  are there any links to online articles relating to your lost loved ones that we  might view to cease those kinds of questions?
2007-03-03 15:05:07
Fen321
Member
+54|6896|Singularity
Lose of family /= right to state crazy accusations such as Muslim clerics being directly responsible for more killings of Muslims than non-Muslims.
2007-03-03 15:23:53
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7070|UK

ATG wrote:

If he says he lost family members in 9-11 he should be allowed to vent a little.

If you were the grandson of a Nazi complaining about the Dresden fire-bombings I might think oh well they deserved it, but I would not question their rant.

Superslim,  are there any links to online articles relating to your lost loved ones that we  might view to cease those kinds of questions?
He can vent all he likes.

The fact than he is victim to an atrocity does not provide him with the basis to claim factually incorrect statements.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2007-03-03 15:39:02
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7073|Canberra, AUS

m3thod wrote:

Superslim wrote:

m3thod wrote:


You need to start backing up statements like that with facts.
Are you serious????

*sigh*

Lost family in 9/11. Need more?:???
Yeah you do.  I fail to see how the death of your family members can prove that Muslims clerics have killed more muslims than none muslims.
Well... his example was a bit strange (and I think he was answering a different point to what you put foward) but he is correct.

Take a cross-sample of the statistics from any suicide bombing in Indonesia or Iraq and you'll see the vast majority of the victims are innocent Muslims.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2007-03-03 15:50:47
thfalk1982
Member
+4|7020|Colorado, USA

ATG wrote:

If you were the grandson of a Nazi complaining about the Dresden fire-bombings I might think oh well they deserved it, but I would not question their rant.
Sorry, bad example - Dresden did not have any significant industrial or military targets and was filled with thousands of German refugees, mostly women and children, fleeing the Russians when it was bombed by the 8th USAAF.  On the other hand - the Germans also did the same thing to many equally undeserving targets.  But two wrongs still don't make it right.

I do not believe that any civilian non-combatant is ever a viable target or acceptable 'collateral' damage in any but a pure terror campaign and that any individuals, or organizations engaging in these terror campaigns should be condemned and brought to justice through a global, but not a specific national (i.e., US), court.
2007-03-03 16:51:38
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6891|Connecticut

--->[Your]Phobia<--- wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Since you are Muslim maybe I can ask you a question. When are these jihadist lowlife freaks going to stop terrorizing countries? When will they stop killing innocent people? When will they stop teaching their youth that it is acceptable to kill westerners just because they think it is right? And when will they start not smelling like nasty ass body odor?
No 1) How the fck is he suppose to know when freaks will stop jihading? Its like asking the Irish when will the IRA stop, they don't fckin know they are not responsible, its the extremists groups i.e the IRA
No 2) Terrorist attacks are not carried out just on the west  they are done regardless or faith, religion, country what ever you want.
An example Terrorists blow up bombs, shootings, kidnaps in India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, and who are the victims? Muslims. Oh sorry you won’t know that will you, guess you been watching too much CNN and FOX.
ffs when will narrow minded people like you, usmarine and lowing come to some sense of reality.
Read my post before you open your trap. I said "When are these jihadist lowlife freaks going to stop terrorizing countries?", not the west. And my generalizing Muslims at his direction was in a sarcastic response for him generalizing all Americans being behind our presidents decisions. But apparently you were the only person who didnt get that. And I dont have to watch television to know whats going on over there. Ive been in country kiddo, I have held a rifle scared to death so slow your fucking role and read what I write, because I am well aware of reality beyond my keyboard. And if you cant understand it the first time, read it again.
Malloy must go
2007-03-03 17:05:28
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6999|132 and Bush

Jihad simply means to struggle in the name of god. It doesn't necessarily mean violence. I would have figured one of our Muslim friends would have pointed that out by now considering how much it is thrown around in a derogatory manner... carry on.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-03-03 17:11:50
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6891|Connecticut
Aye Aye sir.
Malloy must go
2007-03-03 17:32:24
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7070|UK

Kmarion wrote:

Jihad simply means to struggle in the name of god. It doesn't necessarily mean violence. I would have figured one of our Muslim friends would have pointed that out by now considering how much it is thrown around in a derogatory manner... carry on.
It's better to say extremists like to take things out of perspective and derive their own interpretation to said context.

Not that anyone will listen and engage their brain.  People read what they want to read, irrespective of context.

Anyway, I can't be arsed to interpret every damn copy and paste from the Quran/hadith.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-03-03 17:33:16)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2007-03-03 18:02:23
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6678

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Read my post before you open your trap. I said "When are these jihadist lowlife freaks going to stop terrorizing countries?", not the west. And my generalizing Muslims at his direction was in a sarcastic response for him generalizing all Americans being behind our presidents decisions. But apparently you were the only person who didnt get that. And I dont have to watch television to know whats going on over there. Ive been in country kiddo, I have held a rifle scared to death so slow your fucking role and read what I write, because I am well aware of reality beyond my keyboard. And if you cant understand it the first time, read it again.
Seemed to me like the OP was talking "American" as in "American government". Last time I checked, us regular citizens don't get to make policy, the government does. Maybe your sarcastic pretending-to-be-a-bigoted-fuckwit act was too convincing.

But you should definitley stick with the "Hurrrrr, shut your trap and slow your role and read what I write" bulletin board rough talk act, it's hysterical.
2007-03-03 18:27:11
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6891|Connecticut

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Read my post before you open your trap. I said "When are these jihadist lowlife freaks going to stop terrorizing countries?", not the west. And my generalizing Muslims at his direction was in a sarcastic response for him generalizing all Americans being behind our presidents decisions. But apparently you were the only person who didnt get that. And I dont have to watch television to know whats going on over there. Ive been in country kiddo, I have held a rifle scared to death so slow your fucking role and read what I write, because I am well aware of reality beyond my keyboard. And if you cant understand it the first time, read it again.
Seemed to me like the OP was talking "American" as in "American government". Last time I checked, us regular citizens don't get to make policy, the government does. Maybe your sarcastic pretending-to-be-a-bigoted-fuckwit act was too convincing.

But you should definitley stick with the "Hurrrrr, shut your trap and slow your role and read what I write" bulletin board rough talk act, it's hysterical.
It is meant to be. I like funny. Was I incorrect? Did he not generalize me with his TV comments and misquoting me? Wasn't a "Tough Guy" act, its how I am. All affiliations aside, it pisses me off when people jump on your ass (which he did first) without taking the time to read what they are jumping on. I reciprocated. And if the OP "seemed" anything to you, or to me for that matter, then it was left open for interpretation and we are allowed to chose our respected side. I did.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2007-03-03 18:36:57)

Malloy must go
2007-03-03 20:20:57
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6678

deeznutz1245 wrote:

It is meant to be. I like funny. Was I incorrect? Did he not generalize me with his TV comments and misquoting me? Wasn't a "Tough Guy" act, its how I am. All affiliations aside, it pisses me off when people jump on your ass (which he did first) without taking the time to read what they are jumping on. I reciprocated. And if the OP "seemed" anything to you, or to me for that matter, then it was left open for interpretation and we are allowed to chose our respected side. I did.
And so, apparently, did Phobia.

My guess is, Phobia took your comments at face value. Maybe he shouldn't have, but you can't post something like that in a medium where sarcasm doesn't always work so well and then act the wounded dove when someone reacts to it as if you were dead serious. Well you can, but you look fuckin' silly doing it, kinda like complaining about Phobia's post and then defending your own by claiming "open to interpretation". The OP said "America" and "American policy". He didn't go into some half-assed diatribe about beer-swilling, NASCAR-watching, fat slob Americans; if he had, then your post would have been a perfect sarcastic counterpoint. Maybe.

See, you view it as schtick when people have been reading this kind of "you're all crazy primitive jihadist motherfuckers and you smell bad" tripe for years, put forth by those who are as serious as their damaged little brains allow them to be. If you're going to mimic it so closely, you're gonna get a reaction and that reaction is not going to be phrased in a way that won't upset your delicate feelings. My advice is to suck it up and move on.
2007-03-03 20:30:47
JaggedPanther
Member
+61|6872

stef10 wrote:

madmurre wrote:

stef10 wrote:


I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.
Read up on some history and politics, and you might understand it´s quite complex. heh and stole their land? pfft.
Stfu.

You really should get a masters in history if you think you are so smart.

To make a long story fast.

Israel had the land.

Romans came and slaughtered and made them leave the land.

Syrians and others came and entered.

If I should make the call Israel should get the land back but in a peacefull way. No massacres.
I think you are confusing biblical israelites that have a limited connection to the european jews which were transported there after WW2. The biblical isrealies were dark skinned like arabs but were not muslims.
2007-03-03 20:30:52
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6927|Global Command

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

It is meant to be. I like funny. Was I incorrect? Did he not generalize me with his TV comments and misquoting me? Wasn't a "Tough Guy" act, its how I am. All affiliations aside, it pisses me off when people jump on your ass (which he did first) without taking the time to read what they are jumping on. I reciprocated. And if the OP "seemed" anything to you, or to me for that matter, then it was left open for interpretation and we are allowed to chose our respected side. I did.
And so, apparently, did Phobia.

My guess is, Phobia took your comments at face value. Maybe he shouldn't have, but you can't post something like that in a medium where sarcasm doesn't always work so well and then act the wounded dove when someone reacts to it as if you were dead serious. Well you can, but you look fuckin' silly doing it, kinda like complaining about Phobia's post and then defending your own by claiming "open to interpretation". The OP said "America" and "American policy". He didn't go into some half-assed diatribe about beer-swilling, NASCAR-watching, fat slob Americans; if he had, then your post would have been a perfect sarcastic counterpoint. Maybe.

See, you view it as schtick when people have been reading this kind of "you're all crazy primitive jihadist motherfuckers and you smell bad" tripe for years, put forth by those who are as serious as their damaged little brains allow them to be. If you're going to mimic it so closely, you're gonna get a reaction and that reaction is not going to be phrased in a way that won't upset your delicate feelings. My advice is to suck it up and move on.
Stinging.
2007-03-03 20:50:55
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6891|Connecticut

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

It is meant to be. I like funny. Was I incorrect? Did he not generalize me with his TV comments and misquoting me? Wasn't a "Tough Guy" act, its how I am. All affiliations aside, it pisses me off when people jump on your ass (which he did first) without taking the time to read what they are jumping on. I reciprocated. And if the OP "seemed" anything to you, or to me for that matter, then it was left open for interpretation and we are allowed to chose our respected side. I did.
And so, apparently, did Phobia.

My guess is, Phobia took your comments at face value. Maybe he shouldn't have, but you can't post something like that in a medium where sarcasm doesn't always work so well and then act the wounded dove when someone reacts to it as if you were dead serious. Well you can, but you look fuckin' silly doing it, kinda like complaining about Phobia's post and then defending your own by claiming "open to interpretation". The OP said "America" and "American policy". He didn't go into some half-assed diatribe about beer-swilling, NASCAR-watching, fat slob Americans; if he had, then your post would have been a perfect sarcastic counterpoint. Maybe.

See, you view it as schtick when people have been reading this kind of "you're all crazy primitive jihadist motherfuckers and you smell bad" tripe for years, put forth by those who are as serious as their damaged little brains allow them to be. If you're going to mimic it so closely, you're gonna get a reaction and that reaction is not going to be phrased in a way that won't upset your delicate feelings. My advice is to suck it up and move on.
1) I dont have delicate feelings, I am just usually always pissed and very sarcastic.

2) -

3) I drink beer and watch NASCAR

4) I am fully aware that not all Muslims are extremists, and dont all smell bad. I have very little sympathy for anything, and I especially have no sympathy for Muslims pertaining to the way they are treated. I refuse to be force fed any of their beleifs and will not make any attempt to undestand them. That could be perceived as ignorance, stuborness, whatever but it is me simply not fucking caring. I am a proponent of standing up to injustice as a whole, not just the one that fits the current social agenda. So until the Washington Redskins or the Cleveland Indians change their name I will not sympathize with blacks, hispanics, illegal aliens, muslims or anyone.

5) The whole America is the worst place in the world thing is getting old. Seriously. I have been blessed with the opportunity to over 20 countries in my short life (28 yrs) and I found beauty in all of them (except France I think) and I would never cut down a mans nation for the sake of doing it. If you have any wits about you, and I beleive you do, you would admit that %85 of the non Americans on this forum bash my country for the sake of being popular and they are severely misinformed on just about every issue. Not all, just most.

6) For the last time, I did not cut down Phbia for his own interpretation. I cut him down because he quoted me and then two sentences later accused me of saying something I did not say, then  proceeded to thrash me for it. Also, he made a raw assumption that my facts are filtered through the media. That was irresponsible and warrented a reciprocation. See my interview in ATG's sticky if you want to know how I feel about media, those here who know me understand that I am conservative but know when it comes to my intake of media I am unbiased.

7) The subtle attempts to humiliate me dont work. I humiliated myself enough in college to the point that I use riding down a flight of stairs naked and drunk on a refridgerator taped to a blow up doll as a basis of comparrison. Hell of a night.

8) I have traveled, received a bachelor's degree, am married, own a home, have a child, earn a decent living as an asset protection executive and am a proud Marine veteran and have accomplshed other things I am proud of after being on my own since 16. I have faced odds stacked heavily against me for the last 12 years and made the best life I could for myself so stop trying to define me as a punk thug. I am entitled to my own opinion just like you and I am beginning to think you are a weakling who gets a hard on for going on forums and "outsmarting" people. I come on here because %14 of the time I enjoy the topics being discussed. The other %85 I like to let off steam and fuck with nerds. The remaining %1 goes to fucking with Bubbalo.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2007-03-03 21:42:57)

Malloy must go
2007-03-03 21:33:57
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6678
1) Join the fucking club.

2) Don't matter to me either way.

3) There really is no accounting for taste.

4) I refuse to be force fed any of their beleifs and will not make any attempt to undestand them. That could be perceived as ignorance, stuborness, whatever but it is me simply not fucking caring. It ain't just perception, excluding being force-fed their beliefs (which strikes me as wingnut double-speak for "existing on the same planet as their beliefs") that's practically the dictionary definition for ignorance. Learning about something doesn't make you a supporter of it any more than law enforcement folks studying serial killers means they support Ted Bundy. I am a proponent of standing up to injustice as a whole, not just the one that fits the current social agenda. So until the Washington Redskins or the Cleveland Indians change their name I will not sympathize with blacks, hispanics, illegal aliens, muslims or anyone. Funny about that "social agenda" thing, all of this outrage about Saddam and his gold fucking toilets was mysteriously absent from the right wing until the first Gulf War. So what you mean is, "just not the ones that don't fit my social agenda".

5) I do have some wits about me, which is why I realize that whole "Waaaah, they're picking on my country because they hates us" routine is bullshit. This thread started out with a cogent statement, not "Americans is all evil and should die". Time and time again I see people who dare to question American government policy get buried under a deluge of posts about how they're just smelly euro-fag socialists jealous of America's success and good looks or they're terrorist-loving dhimmis. Sure, some people tear down America because they think it's hip. It's hardly some sort of massive epidemic. Either way, welcome to the internets, you may see things you don't like here. And by the way, it ain't just your country.

6) The same kind of raw assumption that led you the conclusion that the OP was just slagging on America because it's cool.

7) Trust me, I'm not trying to humiliate you and I all ready figured out I can't do anything to you that either you yourself or life haven't beaten me to.

8) Your own words define you better than I can. Listen to yourself "fuck with nerds", "weakling", you sound like you're still stuck in high school and trying to prove yourself by screwing with and muscling around people who pose you no real threat at all. And still trying to find a raw nerve to strike with me, how adorable. This shit doesn't even work on me in the really real world, good luck doing it here. I did like the "you're only doing this because in real life guys like me kick your ass for it but I'm only saying that as an example of assumption" jab though, very commendable effort and so very close to hitting the mark but not quite. I was getting my ass kicked for existing long before I developed my smart mouth. I was pretty much a walking target back when I was younger; I didn't have to say a damn thing for some retrograde asshole to want to beat me down from grade school to middle school. Not exactly ashamed of that since nobody's felt confident enough to kick my ass for anything, smart mouth or otherwise, since freshman year of high school. I confess that I do get a hardon for coming on forums and fucking with people like you though. There's just something about the attitude of approaching the internet like it's a bar and you can take anyone in the joint that's like blood in the water for me.

Now I'm going to end my interaction with you in this thread, I've all ready done enough damage to something that wasn't my own. Apologies to the OP; sometimes I just gotta be me.

Last edited by HunterOfSkulls (2007-03-04 06:01:20)

2007-03-03 22:01:36
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6891|Connecticut
You are, however, trying to convince me to "suck it up". Fuck that . I wont suck up something I beleive I need to fight. I dont like something I say it. As for the social agenda comment I was like 12 when the first Gulf War happened so any current events preceeding it might have taken a backseat to changing the sign on the tree fort to "no girls allowed" to "please climb the ladder I am desparate". My father is a full blooded Native American so I do tend to notice the small racial tendencies we as a world implement that no one else notices so I do not stand corrected and dismiss what you told me I should have said, which is why I used the Indian references as examples. My comment on Sadaam's behavior was in contrast to some freak giving everyone else a solution to poverty, when a majority of his countrymen didnt even realize a cell phone was not intended as a detonator untill a year and a half ago. I do fly off at the handle sometimes and I am one with that. It defines me and in real life (not on forum) I am a pretty sensible guy who most might enjoy having a Corona with some time. But do not sit here and defend a person who irresposibly puts words in my mouth, assumes I am a fox news watching, internet freak (I like the internet for porn I must admit) and then have the audacity to "enlighten" me. You are  very insecure emotionally and probably come here to pick verbal arguments because you are tired of getting your ass kicked for having a smart mouth by guys like me. That was an assumption by the way. See how they work?
Malloy must go
2007-03-03 22:05:33
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6999|132 and Bush

You guys are going to get this thread closed.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2007-03-03 22:13:21
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6891|Connecticut

Kmarion wrote:

You guys are going to get this thread closed.
you are right I am done as of now......I hate Hunter.....ok now, I promise.
Malloy must go

 

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