usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Kmarion wrote:

More shootings...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 388791.ece

The plans announced today will see a special task force set up to investigate the three shootings and two other murders which have taken place in South London in the last 10 days

Vilham wrote:

In other well developed countries people have no such fears as these shootings just quite simply dont happen.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7212|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

More shootings...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 388791.ece

The plans announced today will see a special task force set up to investigate the three shootings and two other murders which have taken place in South London in the last 10 days

Vilham wrote:

In other well developed countries people have no such fears as these shootings just quite simply dont happen.
Yes they are called drug dealers and other criminals.. lets not go into how many of those shootings go on in your country shall we...

This is a debate about nut jobs who go into schools and gun down shit loads of people, or just walk down the street and shoot people.

Again you are comparing two totally different things.

Pre meditated murder on a particular individual and the random massacre of unknown people.

Seriously marine put some thoughts into your mindless posts.
usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

Yes they are called drug dealers and other criminals.. lets not go into how many of those shootings go on in your country shall we...

This is a debate about nut jobs who go into schools and gun down shit loads of people, or just walk down the street and shoot people.

Again you are comparing two totally different things.

Pre meditated murder on a particular individual and the random massacre of unknown people.

Seriously marine put some thoughts into your mindless posts.
This debate has nothing to do with schools.  Stop being an asshole about it.

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-02-15 11:02:24)

henno13
A generally unremarkable member
+230|6795|Belfast
gun laws over there suck that why!
Vilham
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+580|7212|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Yes they are called drug dealers and other criminals.. lets not go into how many of those shootings go on in your country shall we...

This is a debate about nut jobs who go into schools and gun down shit loads of people, or just walk down the street and shoot people.

Again you are comparing two totally different things.

Pre meditated murder on a particular individual and the random massacre of unknown people.

Seriously marine put some thoughts into your mindless posts.
This debate has nothing to do with schools.  Stop being an asshole about it.
So you are associating gang crime and premeditated murder to a lone mad man killing unknown people.

Seriously just leave.. just leave now and please never return, all your comments are just dont make any logical sense.

Seriously now... are you sure you arent technically a retard. ie iq below 50. Because some of your comments just are beyond belief.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-02-15 11:15:06)

usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Yes they are called drug dealers and other criminals.. lets not go into how many of those shootings go on in your country shall we...

This is a debate about nut jobs who go into schools and gun down shit loads of people, or just walk down the street and shoot people.

Again you are comparing two totally different things.

Pre meditated murder on a particular individual and the random massacre of unknown people.

Seriously marine put some thoughts into your mindless posts.
This debate has nothing to do with schools.  Stop being an asshole about it.
So you are associating gang crime and premeditated murder to a lone mad man killing unknown people.

Seriously just leave.. just leave now and please never return, all your comments are just dont make any logical sense.
I didn't present that story did I? So I am not comparing anything.

I see you can't turn the asshole off today.
usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

Seriously now... are you sure you arent technically a retard. ie iq below 50. Because some of your comments just are beyond belief.
Proper punctuation may help your insult.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7212|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

More shootings...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 388791.ece

The plans announced today will see a special task force set up to investigate the three shootings and two other murders which have taken place in South London in the last 10 days

Vilham wrote:

In other well developed countries people have no such fears as these shootings just quite simply dont happen.
So doing this is no longer called comparing the two... face it you compared them. You linked Kmarions quote on gang killings to my comment on nutta's shooting anyone.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-02-15 11:24:55)

usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

More shootings...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 388791.ece

The plans announced today will see a special task force set up to investigate the three shootings and two other murders which have taken place in South London in the last 10 days

Vilham wrote:

In other well developed countries people have no such fears as these shootings just quite simply dont happen.
So doing this is no longer called comparing the two... face it you compared them.
So there are no random murders in the UK?  All of them are gang and drug related?  I find that hard to believe.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7047|132 and Bush

Villham I think we should be just as concerned with the systems of premeditated systematic murder of people as well as the random happenings of bizarre public shootings.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio
Man charged with murder of 5 prostitutes in England appears in court.

COPYRIGHT 2006 Financial Times Ltd.

(From AP Worldstream)

Byline: TARIQ PANJA

A truck driver charged with the murder of five prostitutes whose naked bodies were recovered in eastern England over a 10-day period appeared in court for the first time Friday.

Ipswich Magistrates Court remanded Stephen Wright, 48, in custody and ordered him to return to another court for a hearing on Jan. 2.

Police charged Wright late Thursday with the five murders in the Ipswich area northeast of London. He lives in the city's red-light district and was taken into custody in Ipswich on Tuesday.
Vilham
Say wat!?
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usmarine2007 wrote:

Man charged with murder of 5 prostitutes in England appears in court.

COPYRIGHT 2006 Financial Times Ltd.

(From AP Worldstream)

Byline: TARIQ PANJA

A truck driver charged with the murder of five prostitutes whose naked bodies were recovered in eastern England over a 10-day period appeared in court for the first time Friday.

Ipswich Magistrates Court remanded Stephen Wright, 48, in custody and ordered him to return to another court for a hearing on Jan. 2.

Police charged Wright late Thursday with the five murders in the Ipswich area northeast of London. He lives in the city's red-light district and was taken into custody in Ipswich on Tuesday.
Yes but this isnt a thread about England... get over your own crappyness please. You have incidents of this kind running into the tens each year, England has a few at most.
ATG
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+5,233|6975|Global Command

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Rap music.
Simplistic but not insane reason.
What about the guy in Luby Texas that wasted 29 people?
I think is name might have been Hoss.


People have been desensitized. They see their government commit acts of violence (  needless police beatings and shootings ) and even mass murder, such as when the FBI, ATF and members of the U.S. Army burned and shot all those people in Waco Texas.

There is a lot of anger. The thinking man knows he will not have social security when he gets old. He may not have a national identity as the country will be majority hispanic. Katrina, corruption, incompetence.

Then you have the 50% divorce rate. etc. etc.
usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

get over your own crappyness please.
I am done talking to you today, since you are on your cycle.
ATG
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usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

get over your own crappyness please.
I am done talking to you today, since you are on your cycle.
I notice a small group, 4-5 people, who seem to always be carrying on around here, with somebody, about something.
I'd rather see you guys beat each other on the strengths of your argument.
usmarine2007
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+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

ATG wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

get over your own crappyness please.
I am done talking to you today, since you are on your cycle.
I notice a small group, 4-5 people, who seem to always be carrying on around here, with somebody, about something.
I'd rather see you guys beat each other on the strengths of your argument.
I only return fire.
Not
Great success!
+216|7023|Chandler, AZ
Why does Venezuela have the worst murder rate in South America? Even exceeding Colombia?

http://www.vcrisis.com/index.php?conten … 0604112039

How about high ransom kidnappings? Why are those so much more frequent there than they are here?

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/04/0 … 60405.html


Here's another article, slightly less recent but no less important, citing the wonderful world of Chavez. And people complain about Bush, myself included. I feel a little stupid critcizing him at this point against this track record.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/article … 1428.shtml

Amomg the worst of Venezuela's problems under Chavez:


Crime. The crime rate has leaped by an incredible 80 percent since 1998.
"Between 60 and 100 people are killed on an average Caracas weekend," Tamoyo reported. "Those Venezuelans who can afford them live behind barred doors and windows."

Ten thousand Venezeulans marched to the legislature earlier this month to demand tougher anti-crime laws.


Unemployment. It stands at 13 percent, with half of Venezuelans working less than full time.

Education. Chavez attempts to to politicize the educational system and his avowed admiration for Castro have driven tens of thousands to move money and families abroad, creating a significant brain and capital drain.

Government and land reforms Chavez promised have gone nowhere, and businessmen say that while he has tried hard to attract foreign investors, he has made it harder for Venezuelans to invest in their own nation.

Last edited by Not (2007-02-15 11:47:21)

Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6988|Texas - Bigger than France
Simply put...we kill each other because we can...no matter what country...no matter what is used...no matter what the reason...

Solution: Fix collars around every person like they did in the movie the Running Man (or blame the Jews and/or Muslims).

Ya'll are focused on the wrong stuff - start with what's wrong with the kid and see if its indicative of the society.

On a side note, the cops decided to go in quicker than normal on this one...less negotiations...because they didn't want to risk more lives.  How come no one is talking about that yet?
Not
Great success!
+216|7023|Chandler, AZ

Pug wrote:

Simply put...we kill each other because we can...no matter what country...no matter what is used...no matter what the reason...

Solution: Fix collars around every person like they did in the movie the Running Man (or blame the Jews and/or Muslims).

Ya'll are focused on the wrong stuff - start with what's wrong with the kid and see if its indicative of the society.

On a side note, the cops decided to go in quicker than normal on this one...less negotiations...because they didn't want to risk more lives.  How come no one is talking about that yet?
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7212|UK

ATG wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

get over your own crappyness please.
I am done talking to you today, since you are on your cycle.
I notice a small group, 4-5 people, who seem to always be carrying on around here, with somebody, about something.
I'd rather see you guys beat each other on the strengths of your argument.
I would love to. But he never has an argument that makes any sense. Like comparing the most irrelivent things.

I cant believe that someone could be so retarded and thus take it as a sign to stir shit up and cause a flame war, which pisses me off.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio
Just shut the fuck up for a change.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6988|Texas - Bigger than France
Sounds like two people didn't get laid on Valentine's Day...
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7212|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Just shut the fuck up for a change.
lol... how about come up with something that isnt just crap for once?
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6840|The Gem Saloon

usmarine2007 wrote:

Just shut the fuck up for a change.
hes like a menstrating woman......
when he gets like this the only way he can debate is to call people names....my fav from him would definitly be him calling me a terrorist and a cunt.
i love debating with people that have to turn to personal attacks.......oh well, what are you gonna do?
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Just shut the fuck up for a change.
lol... how about come up with something that isnt just crap for once?

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

How do you know because of these nuts jobs your child wont end up getting shot at school? In other well developed countries people have no such fears as these shootings just quite simply dont happen. I think that is his point.
Does it matter what is used?

http://www.safeinschool.co.uk/
Unlike you, I do not care what they get killed by and use it as an excuse.  But don't tell me there is no fear in other countries because it does not happen.

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