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agreed. no i usually dont kill them so many times i wrote them a lot of bad words. always. but hell... I JUST HATE RETARDED COMMANDERS. when i see them commanding... i start thinking that being commander is the worst job in bf2 and also the hardest... OMG.

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hmmmmm maybe not to the extent of your 40 something points but yes ive t.k'd my commander, only cause it was a mate with a higher rank than me that just gets commander to shit me-he doesnt even command, so one day i we were playing a sharqi, we were MEC, our team was shit so i just went anti tank with that shotgun unlock and i went where-ever he spawned and owned him

Try seeing it from the commanders point of view:
USMC haven't capped one single flag, which they have to, or else they will loose because the tickets are bleeding. But your team doesn't do that, they all play as snipers, thinking it`s a great tactic to defend your own uncap You order them to cap flags, nothing happens... Would you give them supplies?

Jalabad 32/64 = great map to play sniper, AS MEC, because you are defending.
Spawn as sniper in the USMC uncap = fail

Todd_Angelo wrote:

And, for the record, just because someone is playing sniper doesn't mean they don't help with flags. Incidentally, your flag points aren't exactly amazing; stkhoplite's look like they're higher and I know mine are

I don't cap so many flags, my squad does, i`m squad leader for the most, and if i`m not i`m the guy covering the spawns and running around securing the area. I dont care so much for points, and would NEVER throw a claymore at a flag to whore up points like you do.

Todd_Angelo`s stats wrote:

21.0512 flag points pr hour

Fredrik`s stats wrote:

16.0862 flag points pr hour

stkhoplite wrote:

9.5323 flag points pr hour

Your flag points are a little bit higher than mine, but that`s only thanks to your claymore spamming at flags.

Since you are bringing up stats in the first place:
Claymores counts for 40% of your kills! You should be ashamed of yourself...

Last edited by Fredrik (2007-01-20 07:37:37)

I{endo wrote:

Fredrik wrote:

Since you are bringing up stats in the first place:
Claymores counts for 40% of your kills! You should be ashamed of yourself...

why? it's rather a shame to take a game too serious...

Good point, but thats what most of us do here, Mr. claymore *******

Fredrik wrote:

Try seeing it from the commanders point of view:

Yes, as frustrating as a camping team might be as commander in this situation you don't drop supplies to the enemy... or did you forget that little detail from the first post in your haste to condemn the use of the kit you irrationally hate the most?

Fredrik wrote:

Jalabad 32/64 = great map to play sniper, AS MEC, because you are defending.
Spawn as sniper in the USMC uncap = fail

Wrong. Too many snipers staying at the USMC uncap = lose.

But two things: one, you don't have to stay at the USMC uncap (regardless of kit). When I play Jalalabad on USMC I usually start as sniper and the first thing I do most of the time is make my way east, with the other guys that know what's important.

Two, you need snipers on your team in some situations. This is one of them; unless you think you can kill all the enemy snipers using the L85A1 at range... the reason that MEC can so often win that map in no-vehicle mode is that decent snipers, medics and support players can decimate wave after wave of attacking infantry.

Fredrik wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

And, for the record, just because someone is playing sniper doesn't mean they don't help with flags. Incidentally, your flag points aren't exactly amazing; stkhoplite's look like they're higher and I know mine are

I don't cap so many flags, my squad does, i`m squad leader for the most...

Fair enough but read on Macduff...

Fredrik wrote:

...and if i`m not i`m the guy covering the spawns and running around securing the area.

And covering the spawns is something snipers do too... is it only okay when a medic does it?

Fredrik wrote:

I dont care so much for points, and would NEVER throw a claymore at a flag to whore up points like you do.

You play medic primarily, don't make yourself look hypocritical preaching not to whore points!

If I wanted to use clays for points I would play Kark a lot and use them in high-traffic areas + spawns 95% of the time, since this would guarantee at least one kill for each one down.

I place clays at flags to help win the game, not for the points, although they are a nice bonus of course; do you revive people for the points or for another reason? If it's not for the points then it's to help the team win... is that only okay when a medic does it?

Spending a bit more time thinking about what you're posting might help you come across as less of an ass.

Fredrik wrote:

Your flag points are a little bit higher than mine...

A little?

Fredrik wrote:

...but that`s only thanks to your claymore spamming at flags.

Oh really, is that the reason? BTW, it's not spamming if you use them to defend flags you schmuck.

Todd_Angelo caps per hour 6.20, assists per hour 4.08, defends per hour 4.56
Fredshroom caps per hour 4.34, assists per hour 5.60, defends per hour 1.82

Did my claymores magically cap those flags for me too?

But wait, there's more... you asked for it ... let's compare like with like shall we? I think we should be looking at your first account, don't you? Oh I'm sorry, did you think I'd have forgotten?

Tjenare;_) caps per hour 3.61, assists per hour 2.96, defends per hour 1.83

You're now playing in a way that builds on the experience of over 1,200 freakin' hours of previous play AND what's more you now play no-vehicle mode "with 16 players, with only 8 players in each team... This is what my stats reflect." So no comparison of your current account's stats against a first/general account is even valid in the first place!

Now I suggest you take a crowbar to help extricate your foot from your mouth.

Fredrik wrote:

Since you are bringing up stats in the first place:
Claymores counts for 40% of your kills! You should be ashamed of yourself...

It's 21% You're not getting any more slack: learn to read FFS!

And no, I shouldn't be ashamed of myself. I play sniper most of the time, on city maps primarily; flags are life; claymores are a major portion of my kit... it would be plain stupid not to use them, just like GLs or 'nades... and I use them to try to help my team win (which they often do help with). So what's to be ashamed of?

Many good points there Todd, im gonna reply right away instead of doing research for 24 hours like you did

Todd_Angelo wrote:

You're now playing in a way that builds on the experience of over 1,200 freakin' hours of previous play

With all the different kits may i add... What you need to do is do the same thing, play the other kits. THEN you will learn that your team dont need snipers at all. Never, ever...

Still, we were talking about a frustrated commander. Like the OP said: He were camping between the uncap and the first mec flag. Let me quote myself and stick to the subject:

Fredrik wrote:

Do you think it was a hint that you should cap flags?

I`ve had ^that^ a couple of times. Once on a clan server: Most of the clan was on the other team, except our commander, who was idle. I complained of course, and got kicked for foul language. I dont think Tking is the way to go though...

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Two, you need snipers on your team in some situations. This is one of them; unless you think you can kill all the enemy snipers using the L85A1 at range... the reason that MEC can so often win that map in no-vehicle mode is that decent snipers, medics and support players can decimate wave after wave of attacking infantry.

No, i wouldnt say that, that gun sucks because you have to stand still or prone to hit anything with a scope. The m16 are far more effective, but you would know nothing about that...

Todd_Angelo wrote:

And covering the spawns is something snipers do too... is it only okay when a medic does it?

Of course not, did i say that? But sniper is the worst kit for that job anyway, unless you are using clays, and no matter what you say and plz dont take offense about it, i think it`s gay to cover spawns and flags with gaymores.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

If I wanted to use clays for points I would play Kark a lot and use them in high-traffic areas + spawns 95% of the time, since this would guarantee at least one kill for each one down.

I place clays at flags to help win the game, not for the points, although they are a nice bonus of course; do you revive people for the points or for another reason? If it's not for the points then it's to help the team win... is that only okay when a medic does it?

You play medic primarily, don't make yourself look hypocritical preaching not to whore points!

Heal - revive points are  2880
Flags points/kill assist     4915
My total team points are 7795
My combat points are   26,146

Would you call that whoring points? I do revive people when i play medic, but i dont exactly run around with my paddles like someone you would call a "medic whore" do. I revive people when all the enemies around me are dead, or when one in my squad run over one of your clays.

And no, i dont revive for points, i dont care about points. I play for fun, and fun for me is killing people with a rifle, or a tank, or a plane, or my knife, or run over them with a car...

Todd_Angelo wrote:

The only reason you played all kits on your first account was to get the expert combat badges... go on admit it. I know it's the only reason I put in enough time to get the vet badges. And it's not like your use of the kits was evenly balanced, was it?

Medic                       295:55:04
Special-Ops           207:50:20
Sniper                     198:00:35    
Engineer            142:29:10
Anti-tank             133:14:27
Support             116:50:41
Assault              114:11:02

Balanced enough for you?
I`ve even received karma for having well balanced kits on my old acc.
Why would i play so much AT, spec op and Engineer if i only played these kits for the badges? I couldnt give a fuck about badges.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

you're an ass
And you're dumb.
You're a...*angelic music* dumbass.
Now I suggest you take a crowbar to help extricate your foot from your mouth.
you schmuck.

Getting... a little... frustrated?

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Spending a bit more time thinking about what you're posting might help you come across as less of an ass.

This topic was not about snipers in the first place, my guess, as i posted, was that he was a lone squadleader hanging out on his own, not following his commanders orders. My guess was that he also was sniper, by the looks of it, i was correct.

Then YOU start bringing in flag caps, comparing that and other shit from our stats that have NOTHING to do with this what so ever.

Now what i pointed out was that the thread starter was the smack tard. While YOU on the other hand are defending this idiot who demands a supply crate for his own to do nothing to help his team. And when he doesnt get that supply crate, he goes to teamkill his commander 20 times untill he get kicked. So wtf are you defending him for?

And what the fuck is the point of this anyway? You must have the "he hate snipers, i must convince him that snipers are good" radar running a little bit out of proporsions, because i said nothing wrong about snipers in the first place. And why would i? I have 200+ hours as a sniper my self ffs, it`s fun, so play how the fuck you want to play for all i care, i cant do anything about it anyway. Unless you come to my server with your gaywhore spamming, then i`ll kick you, but i doubt that you will anyway...

Can i quote you here?  :
Spending a bit more time thinking about what you're posting might help you come across as less of an ass.

Last edited by Fredrik (2007-01-22 08:58:02)

Wow, that's a major revision you did there Freddy. You shoulda left your original single-line reply; what was the time again, 13:51? One of us sure looks like he was waiting for a post with bated breath LOL

stkhoplite wrote:

ok so i was on this jalalalalalalalalabad server and i continually asked for a supply drop at my position..... whenever i asked he just put a supply drop at the first MEC base...... wtf!!?!? i got so angry that i went over to our commander and continually kidnapped hm until i was kicked at -45 points.... any1 else got so angry they did this?

instead of acting like a child, maybe next time you'll justs switch teams. Its difficult to know why a commander devotes certain assets to areas of the map. However to team kill him because he wouldnt drop you supplies (curious where you were and why you needed them) is retarded. If im commander all my assets goto defending the assualt flags because as MEC you want the bleed as long as possible.

After that it becomes a attrition game which Im sure you wouldnt have participated much.
Proof below
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Anti-tank 32:33:09 1,049 1,419 0.7393
Assault 24:06:13 651 893 0.7290
Engineer 10:09:40 298 431 0.6914
Medic 33:52:35 1,303 1,485 0.8774
Special-Ops 25:55:19 632 1,061 0.5957
Support 09:48:14 429 448 0.9576
Sniper 40:46:43 1,106 1,255 0.8813
Total 177:11:53 5,468 6,992 – 
Averages 25:18:50 781 999 0.78
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Last edited by .cat. (2007-01-22 10:32:29)

.cat. wrote:

stkhoplite wrote:

ok so i was on this jalalalalalalalalabad server and i continually asked for a supply drop at my position..... whenever i asked he just put a supply drop at the first MEC base...... wtf!!?!? i got so angry that i went over to our commander and continually kidnapped hm until i was kicked at -45 points.... any1 else got so angry they did this?

instead of acting like a child, maybe next time you'll justs switch teams.

I do agree that teamkilling the commander is childish. However, so is switching teams. In my opinion, teamswitching because things aren't going your way is just as bad as teamkilling a useless commander...