sithao
Member
+63|6596|Los Angeles, California
anyway im looking to buy a new gaming computer and have someone put it together for me. im looking to spend about 2000 dollars give or take. so if you guys can help me out by listing all the parts i need for it to be fully working. ill update this post as you guys list all the parts, and thanks in advance for all the help.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6551|the dank(super) side of Oregon
motherboard
processor
video card
memory
hard drive
power supply
optical drive
case
sound card

http://www.newegg.com  is your best friend.
you should build it yourself.  you're better off knowing your own system
sithao
Member
+63|6596|Los Angeles, California

Reciprocity wrote:

motherboard
processor
video card
memory
hard drive
power supply
optical drive
case
sound card

http://www.newegg.com  is your best friend.
you should build it yourself.  you're better off knowing your own system
i guess i can try that but i really wouldnt want 2 since i dont really know anything about computers or what parts and better then others..

also do i just plug all the parts into the tower and it will work or do i gotta buy wires and connect everything or w/e?.

Last edited by sithao (2007-01-17 22:19:55)

{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|6730|San Antonio, Texas
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6551|the dank(super) side of Oregon
it's nothing to be afraid of.  here's a good place to start:  http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/index.html
sithao
Member
+63|6596|Los Angeles, California

Reciprocity wrote:

it's nothing to be afraid of.  here's a good place to start:  http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/index.html
+1 that site looks like it has a bunch of useful tips.
adv3rsary
Member
+28|6686
for processor look into the core 2 duos and dont let anyone tell u the AMD processors, cause they are NOTHING compared to the duos, for video card, personal preference is ATI but nvidia has some really good cards like the 8800 as well.. HD get something with 16MB cache (u WILL notice a difference), make sure you get a large case that has proper room for air flow, nothing will ruin your computer's performance like heat.. i wouldnt bother with liquid cooling if you are getting the core 2 duo... mine runs at like 45 degrees when i am playing in comparison to my old dual core that ran close to 85

(if you are wondering where the advice is coming from, i have built many systems for myself and i am a computer technician by profession.. that being said, due your own research and don't even think about buying brandname computers from retail stores)
cospengle
Member
+140|6457|Armidale, NSW, Australia
Man, if you want to buy all the parts, but you're not sure what to do with them, you're best off getting someone to 'help' you put it together. If you've got a friend who knows how to do it get them to put it together and explain stuff to you as they go.

I'm not an expert, but I've learned a thing or two fiddling with PCs since before CPUs were socketed. The more you do, the more you'll learn. Starting off by building a PC from scratch by yourself might be more trouble than it's worth.

But as Reciprocity said, it's nothing to be afraid of. The only really important tip I can think of is don't turn on your computer without the CPU heat sink fitted.

Last edited by cospengle (2007-01-18 03:03:36)

Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
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ssonrats
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Stealth42o wrote:

SEARCH
Are you a mod/admin?, no. So why does it bother you?

Does it actually bother you that he hasn't searched?
Cybargs
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ssonrats wrote:

Stealth42o wrote:

SEARCH
Are you a mod/admin?, no. So why does it bother you?

Does it actually bother you that he hasn't searched?
Well at least we can help the mods and admins...
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Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6519|UK

ssonrats wrote:

Stealth42o wrote:

SEARCH
Are you a mod/admin?, no. So why does it bother you?

Does it actually bother you that he hasn't searched?
Especially because he didnt bother giving a link to said SEARCH results, still he is right I suppose, yet especially in tech, a guy specing a new rig in october may not be a lot of help to another in january........

I'd say check out newegg and certainly if you dont know get someone who does (even if you pay a specialist shop to) know, trying yourself with expensive parts like has been said is more trouble than it is worth.  I was writting a piece for a tech site, the classsic OEM vs self build, and right along the price range, self build makes more sense finanically, but I know myself my rig has been a total bitch to get running (though saved something like £1000 ($1800 odd on a comparible alienware rig). 

What I would say though is go on alienware, dell etc and look at there rigs and the specs, then find those components else where, for a $2000 system, you can look at dells going for well over the $3000 mark to give you an idea of the components you need/want.


Martyn
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cospengle wrote:

I'm not an expert, but I've learned a thing or two fiddling with PCs since before CPUs were socketed. The more you do, the more you'll learn. Starting off by building a PC from scratch by yourself might be more trouble than it's worth.
I'm sorry to nit-pick, but the "since before CPUs were socketed" seems like you're saying before newer Pentium III and AMD Athlon generations all CPUs were the slot types.  That would be inaccurate as I believe if I remember correctly only Pentium IIs, the first Pentium IIIs, some early Xeons, and early Athlons were of the slot type.  Before that there were "socketed" CPUs.  The Pentium, Pentium Pro, AMD K6, Intel 486, Intel 386, and probably most earlier processors sat in sockets.
sgt_mango333
Member
+31|6622

sithao wrote:

anyway im looking to buy a new gaming computer and have someone put it together for me. im looking to spend about 2000 dollars give or take. so if you guys can help me out by listing all the parts i need for it to be fully working. ill update this post as you guys list all the parts, and thanks in advance for all the help.
You won't get bleeding edge for 2k but you can still spec out a nice rig like this from Newegg.com.  It will be Vista ready and be able to blow through current games and be ready for the next gen games.

Case   = Thermaltake Matrix                        85  - Light, lot's of room; no frills; front mounted USB
PSU     = Thermaltake ToughPower 850       260  - Quad SLI rated w/ 4 12v rails; don't skimp on the PSU
MB      = eVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR                 250  - Expensive but nForce 680i allows for full SLI for Intel
CPU    = Intel Core2Duo E6400 Conroe       222  - Could go faster w/ 4m L2 for another $100 in E6700
RAM    = Corsair XMS 2 x 1Gb                    274  - Absolute must; don't skimp!!!
HDD    = Western Digital 320Gb OEM            90  - No frills; lots of space; cheap; stable; 3Gb SATA
Video  = 2 x eVGA 8800 GTS                      798  - 640Mb cards in SLI...only 1 faster right now
Sound = Audigy 4 SE OEM                           43  - Definitely not the best, but better than on-board sound!
Burner = Lite-On 18x DVD+-R IDE               32  - I'd prefer a pair of 16x SATA drives but they're hard to find
--------------------------------------------------------
                                         Sub Total 1   2054
                                  Instant Rebates  -    45
                                   ---------------------------
                                          Sub Total 2   2009
                                              Shipping +   36
                                   ---------------------------
                                          Sub Total 3   2045
                                  Main-In Rebates -   100
                                   ---------------------------
                                                 Total     1945

Your total will vary depending on what deals are going on and where the ship to address is.

Your best bet for putting this all together is find someone to guide you through it.  Its not difficult but it will mitigate risks of making noobie mistakes.  If that is not available, check out this site http://www.pcmech.com/show/build/282/  Here you will find a complete guide for building the hardware and installing/patching the software.  Avoid anything regarding Over Clocking if you are not technically savvy enough to build your own system without this guide.

Rule of thumb - If you have to apply a lot of pressure and the manual doesn't say apply a lot of pressure, then you are applying too much pressure! 

The rest is fairly straight forward:

Install PSU
Install Heatsink Backplate to MB
Screw down MB
Install CPU and cooler
Install RAM
Install Video and sound
Install Drives
Connect all power and data lines
Double Check everything!!!
Fire it up and install OS then OS updates then chipset drivers then video drivers then sound drivers then apps...then enjoy!!!

Worse comes to worse, you can buy an OEM like Dell or HP or a boutique like Alienware or Falcon.  Problem is that you will get a loadout with about half the power spec'd above for the same money.  So build it yourself; its not that difficult.
ssonrats
Member
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

ssonrats wrote:

Stealth42o wrote:

SEARCH
Are you a mod/admin?, no. So why does it bother you?

Does it actually bother you that he hasn't searched?
Well at least we can help the mods and admins...
They have their job, hell there are always mods/admins online.
theknuck
It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!
+45|6582|balls
do you actually know someone can build this for you.  if so, what did they recommend?  the only thing i think mango left out is a lcd monitor.  you can find a 19" w/s for less than $200 nowadays.  definately go 19" or bigger.  but i like mango's setup.  and all you have to do is google "install motherboard" or "install processor" and you will find endless tutorials on this.  it is not hard and know from personal experience that the only way to learn is do it yourself.  maybe have your buddy stand by as you do it.  the lengthiest part of a build and install should be putting in and updating your OS and all your games,programs,driver updates.  have fun with that $2000, it will get you far.
majorassult
I <3 ak101
+307|6633|under there hayousaidunderwear

ssonrats wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

ssonrats wrote:


Are you a mod/admin?, no. So why does it bother you?

Does it actually bother you that he hasn't searched?
Well at least we can help the mods and admins...
They have their job, hell there are always mods/admins online.
No there is not always mods/admins online.

And also why does it bother you that it bothers him?
kylef
Gone
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The motherboard, processor and RAM are the 3 most important parts so spend wisely on these. The motherboard is the entire basis of the system, the processor is the brain and the RAM makes everything work etc.

Next up is your hard drive and video card. Your hard drive will always be outdated, because a new one WILL come out. Same with video cards, although DX10 is out! It's expensive at minimum, and unthinkable and maximum. So an X1950 Pro or something might be handy until you can afford it!

Case and powersupply are needed also. Case doesn't really matter but the PSU does. And a lot. Don't ever use a PSU that came with the case unless it's made by Antec / Silverstone / Hiper etc. Any brand that doesn't ring any bells to us or you, probably sucks (in general, some exceptions).

Sound card isn't really important. Onboard audio these days is actually pretty decent, but an X-Fi wouldn't hurt!

Hope this helps..

- kyle.
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I would wait for nVidia geForce 8600 since it's DX10
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majorassult
I <3 ak101
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[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I would wait for nVidia geForce 8600 since it's DX10
for $2000 you can easily get an 8800/
sithao
Member
+63|6596|Los Angeles, California
thanks for all the help guys. also what do you think about sgt_mango333 build would u change anything about it? or even replace something that i can get better for little more cash?.

Last edited by sithao (2007-01-18 15:18:29)

Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6519|UK

majorassult wrote:

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I would wait for nVidia geForce 8600 since it's DX10
for $2000 you can easily get an 8800/
Spending a huge percentage of his budget though on it, 8600's are tipped at somewhere in the $250 region, much more reasonable, just over 10% of his budget for graphics, rather than 25%+.

Martyn
majorassult
I <3 ak101
+307|6633|under there hayousaidunderwear

Bell wrote:

majorassult wrote:

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I would wait for nVidia geForce 8600 since it's DX10
for $2000 you can easily get an 8800/
Spending a huge percentage of his budget though on it, 8600's are tipped at somewhere in the $250 region, much more reasonable, just over 10% of his budget for graphics, rather than 25%+.

Martyn
True but when building a gaming computer graphics is a big part of it.
adv3rsary
Member
+28|6686
for the building once u got all the parts, there is a lot of great guides on the internet

this 1 i used for my first build http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/

give it a look and search around if it doesnt satisfy you, if you really don't wanna mess around with it you can get places to put all the parts together for you for 40-80 bucks so np... but i'd say give it a shot yourself, you ll be more comfortable repairing it that way should anything go wrong in the future and hey it's fun.. building it up is my favorite part of getting a new pc
vpyroman
Aeon Supreme commander
+16|6587|UCF
Don't forget to include an OS in that price break down as well.

In my opinion I would get 2x200GB HDDs instead of 1 single 320GB drive, as you can use 1 as a primary drive for applications(Games, OS, the like) and the 2nd one for mass data(like Iso's, movies, music).

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