Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7165|Toronto | Canada

For those who didnt see 24 this past week, there was a nuclear bomb that went off in LA (dont worry Jack lived).  This nuke was in a suitcase and was detonated prematurely because of police intervention. 

My questions are:
1) Do you think it is possible for America to get nuked in the near future (not a missile, but a suitcase nuke like in the show)?
2) What would be the fallout (no pun intended) of a nuke going off in America?  What would happen?  Civil unrest etc...?
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7119
FUCK I missed the second episode holy crap, why oh why did I play Battlefield instead?! lol.

It is very possible for the US to be nuked. A nuke could be sent in through the ports in a cargo container. The fallout would be utter chaos. Just look at the insanity that was caused by hurricanes Reda and Katrina.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2007-01-16 19:20:53)

Mr.Casual
p-n*|3eergogglz
+136|6935|Minnesota eh
Yes.

And we would get the hell out of the fallout area as fast as possible.
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6904|Communist Republic of CA, USA

Winston_Churchill wrote:

For those who didnt see 24 this past week, there was a nuclear bomb that went off in LA (dont worry Jack lived).
Yes, I won't worry that one character lived, nevermind the fact that Thousands of others just died...


in regards to the Aftermath of a blast, I'm sure the American Populace would be out for blood.
rambo_killin_SOB
bunny hopping nade spammer
+61|6938
The best part off the premiere was when Jack bit the dude in the neck
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6955|Global Command
A nuke that size would do more to piss us off than kill us. I live 30 minutes from Los Angeles. A back pack nuke would not be heard or felt this far away.
eagles1106
Member
+269|7010|Marlton, New Jersey.

Superior Mind wrote:

FUCK I missed the second episode holy crap, why oh why did I play Battlefield instead?! lol.

It is very possible for the US to be nuked. A nuke could be sent in through the ports in a cargo container. The fallout would be utter chaos. Just look at the insanity that was caused by hurricanes Reda and Katrina.
Not that it will or won't get passed, but there is a bill that was sent out that I believe already made it throught The House of Reps (leaving it to go through the Senate and for the President to sign/not sign while congress is in session, making it a law) that deals with the Unites States inspecting ALL incoming cargo containers...

Last edited by eagles1106 (2007-01-16 19:34:47)

jsnipy
...
+3,277|6948|...

very possible. many suitcase are rumored to exist. I think it would be more psychologically damning than anything.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7165|Toronto | Canada

ATG wrote:

A nuke that size would do more to piss us off than kill us. I live 30 minutes from Los Angeles. A back pack nuke would not be heard or felt this far away.
This is what im referring to.  What do you think that the political repercussions would be?  Would people become scared to go outside without protection?  Think about what you would do if a nuke went off 30 minutes from your house?

In my opinion I am more afraid of small backpack nukes than huge missiles, mostly because they cannot be seen in advance and people cannot prepare for them.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6996|Portland, OR, USA
if we get nuked, we send all our nukes in every direction resulting in the end of earth.  ze end.

But seriously, we'd just have another reason to go to war, or prolong the one we're in..
Ganko_06
Laughter with an S
+167|7071|Camoran's Paradise
1).  Though the odds are incredibly low, it is possible and do-able if someone had the right resources.
2).  The blast of nuke that small would do quite a bit of devastation and if placed strategically, would result in long term repercussions;

As far as public response, think the Afghanistan war X10.  No need for a draft.  If 9/11 and Pearl Harbor tell anything about Americans it's that they get very VERY pissed when someone sucker punches them.

Last edited by Ganko_06 (2007-01-16 19:53:38)

iamangry
Member
+59|7071|The United States of America

ATG wrote:

A nuke that size would do more to piss us off than kill us. I live 30 minutes from Los Angeles. A back pack nuke would not be heard or felt this far away.
I'm fairly sure you're mistaken.  Even a 1 kT nuclear blast would be enough to be seen well over 30 miles away.  Proof:  the MOAB.  It can be seen and heard from over 30 miles away and it has an explosive power less than 1kT of TNT.  So you'd see it, and you'd hear it, and if the winds we're just so, you'd be in serious need of KI among other anti radiation medicines. 

Seriously though, If LA really got nuked like that, I would expect no less than the utter and total destruction of the Mecca, if not the entire Middle East... period.  I know that's gonna get a lot of ppl pissed off, but I'm sorry, you nuke the most powerful nation in existence, you're gonna get thermo nuked back.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7146|California

Briefcase bombs are more radiation-based than explosion. Dirty bombs would be nasty.

IF a nuke went off in the US, shit would hit the fan, fast.
Not
Great success!
+216|7003|Chandler, AZ

rambo_killin_SOB wrote:

The best part off the premiere was when Jack bit the dude in the neck
QFT

Everyone I talk to brings that part up first. He spit out a fuckin chunk of his throat!!!!
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7081

I think there'd be loads of civil unrest. Heh, funny me and my friend were talking about this earlier today after having watched 24. As for retaliation, our country won't just nuke another random country. Sure we invaded one, but nuking a country that hasn't even declared war on us, only attacking them because radicals from there attacked us, will result in a massive nuclear war. I think if a nuke does go off in our country and we retaliate with one, it could very well lead to a nuclear holocaust. I think it might even be possible for terrorists to attack us with a nuke, but I'm sure many of them are scared to do so if they have any concerns for the future of their organizations.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6955|Global Command
I remember asking myself after 9-11; what would we do if they nuked us?

My best answer; not a hell of a lot.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7198|PNW

Winston_Churchill wrote:

For those who didnt see 24 this past week, there was a nuclear bomb that went off in LA (dont worry Jack lived).  This nuke was in a suitcase and was detonated prematurely because of police intervention. 

My questions are:
1) Do you think it is possible for America to get nuked in the near future (not a missile, but a suitcase nuke like in the show)?
2) What would be the fallout (no pun intended) of a nuke going off in America?  What would happen?  Civil unrest etc...?
1) Why is there any question of it? We've nuked ourselves.
2) Heightened cancer rates for locals (mid-west).

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-01-17 02:38:35)

Choclot
Member
+21|6968

CommieChipmunk wrote:

if we get nuked, we send all our nukes in every direction resulting in the end of earth.  ze end.
And Australias like "WTF?!?!?!!?!"
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7007|SE London

ATG wrote:

A nuke that size would do more to piss us off than kill us. I live 30 minutes from Los Angeles. A back pack nuke would not be heard or felt this far away.
Yeah, it would. You would hear it a long, long way away. I doubt you'd feel it though. But if the wind was blowing the wrong way you might end up dead anyway.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7269|Reykjavík, Iceland.
We're still on Series 2 over here LOL.
spray_and_pray
Member
+52|6917|Perth. Western Australia
You all are thinking too small an improper built nuke cant destroy much. A properly built one devestates an area as large as a whole entire city. Not to forget the acid rain etc that will follow. Still people would live on yeah. Now imagine a nuke blown up near or in a Trojan powerplant. The US has over 70 powerplants in total each would be as good a target as the next. Blowing up such a powerplant could easily knock out a large amount of the population. It was feared that during 9/11 one of the aircraft would have hit the Trojan just out of new york. This its self would kill tens of millions of people wipe out the whole entire surrounding area. A lot would die instantly while others would die from diseases and fallout. Some of the next generation will be mutated missing body parts abnormalities etc. Such a thing could happen to any country with a nuclear powerplant just imagine if more then 1 bomb got snuck in.

Such an attack however would be an atrocity against man kind, but I guess it has happened before just not on that much of a large scale. The US isn't invincible, it is like every other country and has its weaknesses to. However since WW2 no one has been stupid enough to use a nuke. Lets hope in the future no one is that stupid. My guess the next biggest thing. A nuclear fission bomb, we are working on fission reactors and have managed to heat up particles at 80 000 degrees celcius for under a second. This is 8 times the temperature of the sun. This figure is however old its like from 2003 the main goal is to get to 100 000 degrees celcius. Imagine what such a weapon could do it could probably even wipe out a whole entire large country. Something 10 times hotter then the sun would definately leave a large hole somewhere on the planet and probably cause some sort of a freeze over. With that sort of a weapon who needs more then 1 bomb?

Lets just hope humanity has learned what happens when we want large expolosive power from Hiroshima and Nagasaki or our future is grim.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6945|Πάϊ
Yes, its quite possible. So get in your bunkers and stay there. Make sure to pack "24" so you know what's happening in the world while you're hiding.
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Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7073|Peoria
Yknow, realistically, if the US is nuked, and its found to be some muslim nation involved, there will probably be a day of mourning...and then the next day said nation will end up being a glass parking lot.
vpyroman
Aeon Supreme commander
+16|7043|UCF
IF a nuclear bomb did go off, there would be mass arrests with everyone suspected of being a terrorist round up, martial law would be issued, and some more crazy laws would be passed to remove American freedoms to allow for a more militaristic government.
Volatile
Member
+252|7130|Sextupling in Empire

Not wrote:

rambo_killin_SOB wrote:

The best part off the premiere was when Jack bit the dude in the neck
QFT

Everyone I talk to brings that part up first. He spit out a fuckin chunk of his throat!!!!
I laughed my ass off when I saw that scene. It was extreme.

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