BF2S Forums U.S. Troop Morale in Iraq High

ATG wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

Everytime contemptable blowhards like Ted Kennedy get in front of a mic and go on about how are are fighting a war based on lies
the insurgents see hope and continue fighting.

By suggesting there is internal conflict at home the democrats suggest to the jihadist that if they just keep fighting and hanging in there then eventually we will lose.

The average run-of-the-mill insurgent probably cares little for the internal machinations of US politics. They see an occupation, they will continue to fight it until that occupation ends. The foreign elements may be interested somewhat in what goes on in the US but the average Iraqi probably doesn't give a shit. I personally don't think the USSR would EVER have defeated the Afghans, save perhaps if they nuked the entire length and breadth of the country. The same rules apply today in Afghanistan and sadly in Iraq also.

I don't recall the Ruskies building schools and hospitals Cam. Sewage treat facilities, etc.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-15 09:09:21)

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

I don't recall the Ruskies building schools and hospitals Cam. Sewage treat facilities, etc.

Edited my previous post. What's the point in hospitals when they just get blown up, eh? Perhaps they don't want you to build them? Would you accept something off somebody that you would generally describe as 'the Great Satan' (as most of the middle east refers to USA)?

Well Cam, in all due respect, most of the insurgents aren't even from Iraq... They're from and sponsored by other nations.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-15 09:14:55)

CameronPoe wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Edited my previous post. What's the point in hospitals when they just get blown up, eh? Perhaps they don't want you to build them? Would you accept something off somebody that you would generally describe as 'the Great Satan' (as most of the middle east refers to USA)?

Well Cam, in all due respect, most of the insurgents aren't even from Iraq... They're from and sponsored by other nations.

Neither you nor I can quanitfy how many or how few foreigners are involved. The Mehdi Army alone, a fully Iraqi organisation, is testament to the fact that this is not some proxy war but does in fact involve real Iraqis, lots of them.

ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Stories like this aren't as entertaining.
http://i16.tinypic.com/40pgb5z.jpg

Three entities are behind the continued unrest in Iraq.

1) the Sunni/Shia militias and the outside meddlers.
2) The Press
3) the democratic party in America.

usmarine2007 wrote:

"Peace is not the absence of conflict, but the presence of justice."

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

That is just plain ignorant, ok we can play by the insurgents game! Lets firebomb every city in Iraq to make sure there are no insurgents!

It would have been prudent to have planned carefully for eventualities no?  This is WAR, all sort of nasty shit will happen, people lives will be lost, people will suffer, trillions of dollar down the khazi,  its imperative to plan for everything! Especially those as glaring as the insurgent falls in the west and meddling fanatics in the east.  The decision to got war was rash, incomplete and the occupation has been executed with text book incompetence.

You cannot expect to invade a country slap bang in the middle of we hate the American Infidels central where you are systematically despised and expect to fight these fanatics toe to toe.  This it what i am referring to, to use the excuse "Damn we don't have their advantage of being able to melt into the background" is laughable.  So guess what?  Tough shit, should have thought of this.  I'm no strategic military adviser but an infant could have told you this.

Get it? Now back to Junk CN, you don't have the intellectual capacity to post here.

Well this really isn't a war anymore, the Iraqi Army is defeated, now the troops stationed in Iraq are fighting an enemy that dresses as a civilian, hell you don't know if that guy who sells cigarettes down the street may your killer tomorrow. This type of battle has not been dealt with before, it is hard to adapt to this kind of situation, makes it even harder when the media is like blah blah blah dead in Iraq, war escalates. Not fucking helping at all. What happened to haji waving American flag and thanking American soldiers?


Btw, I find it kind of Ironic that people from the UK says well tough shit US, whilst their own country is in the same situation...

Last edited by m3thod (2007-01-15 15:02:53)

Kmarion wrote:

m3thod wrote:

This is guerrilla warfare, and its HAS been utilised before.

This is guerrilla civil warfare, and its HAS been utilised before.

They are united by religion not nationality. If it were nationality it would not be Shia verse Sunni. But yes, we underestimated the length Iran and Syria would go to disrupting the progress of peace. Those two nations are responsible for ensuring the chaos continues more than anything else. This allows the world to focus on Iraq while Ahmadinejad (Actually Ayatollah Ali Khamenei) continue to pursue nuclear weapons and make promises of wiping Israel and the Western world off the planet...

haha Ahmadinejad... you silly bitch

Last edited by m3thod (2007-01-15 15:38:03)

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

If morale is so high, why has the suicide rate in the US armed forces doubled within a year?
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-re … sp?id=4372

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-01-16 05:26:54)

Bubbalo wrote:

So, basically as long as they stay in Iraq they're safe from suicide, but returning to society is too horrendous.

Or maybe they don't go back to Iraq because their morale is so low, and then kill themselves as well.

Both compelling theories.