Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6715|North Carolina

BeerzGod wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

We wont fall... we adapt and survive...  If the US was gone the world would collapse... fact
Couldn't have been said any better than this. Absolute fact.
Um, no.  The Roman Empire fell, and the world moved on.  The Ottoman Empire fell, and the world moved on.  The Soviet Empire fell, and the world moved on.  We would certainly leave a huge power vacuum behind, but people and civilization would move on.

PEOPLE adapt and survive, not just Americans.
trackstarr
Member
+18|7011|Swing and a miss
We will fall
When?
I cannot even begin to guess

Hell there have been dynasties that have existed for thousands of years, and the  u.s. has only been around 230 odd years
We are bound to fail and fall like the romans
Heijken
Member
+1|6739
by god you americans are full of yourselfs.
the roman empire collapsed from the inside, due to decadence (spelling?)
thats the only thing america (why do you call it that when there are two more countries in north america?!) is - decadent.

your fall will probably be of another one. probably not financially or physically, but maybe in politics, you'll be ruled out of the global politics and cut off. doomed to take care of yourself.
-|TS|-owNzu7
Member
+6|6729
I'm pretty positive if the United States does fall, it won't fall for military reasons.  I see it lasting centuries more
RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6847|Chicago

stryyker wrote:

but the Romans didnt have nukes. Touche me.
Touche you? I barely know you!
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6773|Tyne & Wear, England

BeerzGod wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

We wont fall... we adapt and survive...  If the US was gone the world would collapse... fact
Couldn't have been said any better than this. Absolute fact.
OK that is absolute bullshit in the clearest form, get over yourself and get the fuck out.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
imortal
Member
+240|6974|Austin, TX

BeerzGod wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

We wont fall... we adapt and survive...  If the US was gone the world would collapse... fact
Couldn't have been said any better than this. Absolute fact.
Well, the US could fall, pretty easily.  If there was a major distruption in services (read: loss of electricity, water, food transport) for a significant period of time (a month of so) across a sizeable area (a couple of entire states), then it could happen.  New Orleans and the aftermath of Katrina are a good example in microcosm.  Once basic services are lost, once the people cannot depend on their local emergency services, once they are out of contact and on their own, then everything breaks down.  Imagine New York City(all of NYC) if the power went off and stayed off.  If there were no telephones.  Or water.  Or food.  Millions of people whose only thought is now just food, water, and survive until tomorrow.  Once something like that happens over a wide enough area, the federal goverment becomes pretty useless.

I will also say that if the US melts down, then the rest of the world would take one hell of a beating.  Of course, the same would be true if China melted down.  Or if the Middle east finally glazes over into a glass parking lot.  It is not a matter of arrogance that leads me to say the fall of the US would predicate the fall of the world, just an understanding of the interdependance of most countries on the planet.

But others on here are also correct.  We, Americans as well as everyone else around the world, would recover.  Painfully, and perhaps slowly, but we would recover.  Rebuild.  But it would never be the same.

***EDIT:  Oh, and about that little "fact" item at the end of your posts... it is NOT a fact, just an opinion.  Maybe an educated one, but most likely not.  Try to learn what a fact really is.  Just by putting 'fact' there does not make it either true or a fact.***

Last edited by imortal (2007-07-07 21:50:14)

sfarrar33
Halogenoalkane
+57|6928|InGerLand

Hallvard wrote:

Smithereener wrote:

Noobeater wrote:


No he means after pearl harbour when the japenese had plans to bomb the hell out of california, i can't remember anything else about it though due to it being 1:44 am so night.
Ooh. That makes more sense. Except it never happened. Got the government paranoid enough to send them to internment camps though.
There was a German submarine on it's way to Japan with some Uran that was supposed to be put in bombs and droped over USA... but the submarine surrendered some time after Germany fell after ignoring many commands to return to Germany... Japan had the tecnology to make nuclear weapons, but not the materials needed...
Possibly but not what i meant.

I made a mistake it was Oregon not California, but the story is:
The japanese invented a way to fit a very small plane in a water tight box on a sub. The top deck of the sub being transformed into a little runway and the plane being able to take off on it. The plane was too be flown over Oregon forests and drop firebombs onto them creating a fire larger than one America has had before. It all worked smoothly apart from the bombs, I think 5 bombs were dropped and only two exploded; the small fire they created being easily and quickly put out.
Theres a small bit on wikipedia about it but I can't quote where I originally found it due to it being a book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_submarine_I-25

wiki wrote:

First aerial bombing of the continental U.S.

In June 1942, I-25 was patrolling the coast of Oregon, and shelled Battery Russell, a small coastal army installation within now decommissioned Fort Stevens. Damage was minimal. In fact, the only item of significance destroyed on the fort was a baseball backstop. On September 9, 1942, the crew again deployed the Glen, which dropped incendiary bombs over Oregon forest land, in the first ever time that the continental United States was bombed from the air, known as "The Lookout Air Raid". The goal was to trigger wildfires across the coast, but light winds, wet weather conditions and two quick acting Fire Lookouts kept the fires under control. In fact, had the winds been sufficiently brisk to stoke widespread forest fires, the lightweight Glen would have been unable to fly.

I-25 was sunk less than a year later by the destroyer USS Patterson off the New Hebrides islands on September 3, 1943.
bargarse
Member
+1|6458
its a shame to say that we need the US. at least we think we do or the powers that be think we do...i dont think america will fall...i think it will be dispised more so than it is already. a lot of people dont like the mafia but there isnt anything anyone can do about it...theyve got the fingers in everything...the americans will always be there...you will know because they will be talking and laughing 3 times louder than everyone else. im not racist...i just hate americans.....lol....just kidding.....you cant help it
buttersIRL
Member
+17|6907
it will happen in a 100 years or so, economic recession will be the main cause but plus some social factors
I could imagine different states, like California, eventually declaring independence.

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