BF2S Forums =OBS= EstebanRey - Needs banned for his signature

SealXo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Well, what if i put a picture of a nazi pointing a lugar at the head of some crying jewish mother?

Shes about to die, from a face of someone evil. Bad enough? rewind<<< I edit the picture and paste on churchhills head for some reason or another, which is grossly offensive enough with the unedited picture.

I think if a mod saw that, then there would be atleast a removal.

I can't predict what the mod response would be, but I wouldn't remove it, if it was Churchill's head.

The first thing you mentioned was a racial attack though.  Generally speaking, you can get away with insulting an individual, but if you make it racially prejudiced, it's probably going to be censored.

So you're saying that if i insult someone who openly admits that they are infact a neo-nazi.( And say I'm Jewish,) and i tell them to fuck off for the genocide of 6-million people + gays, retards, and many others, I'm the bad guy?. ...heh.

If i called the guy a kraut or something okok fine. But a Nazi, you should be able to say whatever you want

I'd like to see the day where a Jew blows themselves up in a Geran Resturant.

You're referring to NeoCommander, aren't you?

I think his choice to openly support Nazism is severely misguided, but I've spoken with him at greater length through AIM.  I don't really think he's a Nazi.  I think he just likes Fascism.  He's definitely prejudiced against Jews, but I haven't heard him voice support for killing them.  This is why I think he's not really a Nazi.  I just don't think he realizes all of the baggage that comes with the Nazi label.

To say you prefer authoritarian government is one thing; to say you are Nazi is another.  I can assure you that a real Nazi would not have black friends.  That would completely contradict the Nazi mindset.

Still, I can understand why you might have flamed him.  I don't know the details of the post that got you banned, but in the context of what you posted, I'd probably have just told you to edit your post as a mod.

So, I'm not really defending the mods here or complaining about them, I'm just explaining how I'd deal with it and why I don't believe Esteban needs to be banned for a sig.  If he's repeatedly attacking people, then I understand why you would want to ban him.  Otherwise, you can just assume his sig is a reflection of a skewed viewpoint that is somewhat farcical.

It's kind of like the "Liberalism is a mental disease" comment that a certain other person has in their sig.....

This is what the "it's illegal" comment was about:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 41 > § 871

§ 871. Threats against President and successors to the Presidency

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

I don't think the "Bush in the noose" sig would count as a threat under this law.
But, for what it's worth, I bet you would get arrested for wearing a t-shirt with that photo near the White House.

Snipedya14 wrote:

It sends a clear an relevant political message. Bush should be hung for his war crimes. I may not agree with that, and it may be a bit "offensive" to you, but its making a bold statement, where as the Nazi thing is not so relevant to todays current events.

And what war crimes are these?  Oh yes, he ordered warriors to war and many disagree with the war.  My bad.  Guess we should hang every president that doesn't have 100% approval ratings during war time.    Relevant political message my rear.

Stingray24 wrote:

Snipedya14 wrote:

It sends a clear an relevant political message. Bush should be hung for his war crimes. I may not agree with that, and it may be a bit "offensive" to you, but its making a bold statement, where as the Nazi thing is not so relevant to todays current events.

And what war crimes are these?  Oh yes, he ordered warriors to war and many disagree with the war.  My bad.  Guess we should hang every president that doesn't have 100% approval ratings during war time.    Relevant political message my rear.

But whether or not you agree with it means jack shit! It is alot more relevant then your Nazi example. Its a current event, that is HIGHLY debated. Thus (IMO) making it alot less crude and alot more acceptable.

BTW-

Guess we should hang every president that doesn't have 100% approval ratings during war time.

You are kidding right?

Real war will unify a country, not deeply divide it.

Snipedya14 wrote:

BTW-

Guess we should hang every president that doesn't have 100% approval ratings during war time.

You are kidding right?

Real war will unify a country, not deeply divide it.

Not necessarily...  Vietnam divided America even more than this one has....

Stingray24 wrote:

Sure, the war is highly debated.  However, it's not relevant in any way to call for the hanging of a US president because one disagrees with his war policy.  Gimme a break.

Its about treason. Failure to defend our borders is treason. In a time of war that is a capital offense.
Bush is lucky.
He's all but untouchable.
Lucky for him.

Spit do you know what the US flag stands for?
Do you agree that people like Saddam need to be removed from the world, even if the US had to do it under false pretenses.
I voted for Bush 2 time's.  The first time because I knew that he would finish what his Daddy started in the Middle East, that needed to be done... The 2nd time is because I would rather have him{Bush}finish what was started in his first term than some other jerk. I don't really believe in every thing that Bush is doing in the world but, god dam you cant make every one happy.  As for the sig I agree with it and I don't. As a American I get that choice, if you don't agree with one persons opinions does that make them a coward or a traitor....NO IT DON'T! I never took a vow to protect my country it don't mean that I wouldn't. I have the right to own arms and I do... If the US was in invaded I would use them to protect my family and country.

ATG wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Sure, the war is highly debated.  However, it's not relevant in any way to call for the hanging of a US president because one disagrees with his war policy.  Gimme a break.

Its about treason. Failure to defend our borders is treason. In a time of war that is a capital offense.
Bush is lucky.
He's all but untouchable.
Lucky for him.

Um...  I don't like Bush, but I wouldn't call him a traitor.  He's definitely a manipulator and a war profiteer, but that's a bit different.

You're referring to the illegal immigration thing with regards to border security, right?

Turquoise wrote:

ATG wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Sure, the war is highly debated.  However, it's not relevant in any way to call for the hanging of a US president because one disagrees with his war policy.  Gimme a break.

Its about treason. Failure to defend our borders is treason. In a time of war that is a capital offense.
Bush is lucky.
He's all but untouchable.
Lucky for him.

Um...  I don't like Bush, but I wouldn't call him a traitor.  He's definitely a manipulator and a war profiteer, but that's a bit different.

You're referring to the illegal immigration thing with regards to border security, right?

Yes. Sorry, I know I kinda obsess about it.

I live about 90 miles from Mexico. For almost every day laborer hanging out at the Home Depot there is a fat wife with four kids and no car.

It is out of control and...beyond repair.
We're fucked, and it isn't just that.

ATG wrote:

Yes. Sorry, I know I kinda obsess about it.

I live about 90 miles from Mexico. For almost every day laborer hanging out at the Home Depot there is a fat wife with four kids and no car.

It is out of control and...beyond repair.
We're fucked, and it isn't just that.

It's understandable.  It's just that I think the solution is the most counterintuitive one possible....  I'll start a new thread for it...  Please join me...

Stingray24 wrote:

Sure, the war is highly debated.  However, it's not relevant in any way to call for the hanging of a US president because one disagrees with his war policy.  Gimme a break.

san4 wrote:

There are lots of places where it's not safe to criticize the U.S. President.

It's not criticism, it advocates his death.  Big difference.

It could certainly be interpreted that way but that's far from clear. It's not a bad metaphor for what happened to Bush politically as a result of the Iraq invasion.

Major_Spittle wrote:

ATG wrote:

His sig is rather shocking, but I have no objection to it other than its not reality.
Frankly, he beat me to it.

Are you saying you wish his sig would really happen?  The Iraqi government hang George Bush for killing Iraqis. 

That's some stupid shit.  I admit I would like to see Bush and a lot of other people held accountable for their actions (treason), but this is an "in house" thing and I would never advocate random violence toward our leaders by another entity.  I took an oath to protect our government, and so did you as I recall.

I find Americans supporting shit like that sig. and allowing it to be displayed very offensive. 

Go burn American flags with the terrorist if you support shit like this.  Bush is our Elected leader, advocate impeachment if you have a problem with that.

Sheesh man, go find yourself a sense of humour. It's pretty damn obvious that it's satirical.

someone said it already but:

1: click profile
2: click display
3: un-check 'display user signatures'

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