BF2S Forums Which gun damages enemies fastest?

I love how everybody argues on these forums All this guy is trying to show is what gun does the most damage the quickest. He already said accuracy doesn't go into account and all that other stuff. Then people come in saying stuff like, "Who cares?! AK-101 FTW!!!!1!! LOLOLOL" Also when people argue about their favorite guns. "No, the G36e is the best!" "No, the AK-101 is far more superior" blah blah blah.... Jeez, people need to learn to not be so defensive about a gun THEY use in a video game. If other people like one gun more, let them use it. Why should you care? If you're really using the better gun, it'll just mean an easier target for you.

Anyways, +1 to the creator of the chart for the work.

Last edited by FrankieSpankie3388 (2007-01-06 08:07:03)

M95

Interesting post! I was surprised about a few guns!

But the G36E is still the gun that I feel is downright dominant! I just wreck people with that particular gun as opposed to the others! Anyway it does come down to the way you use the gun I suppose. . . . .

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-01-06 13:24:39)

The G36C has indeed been nerfed, I think it was 1.12 or maybe 1.2, it used to be a frickin laser, like, no joke. You aim at something and it hit it, period.

Again San4 impresses with a rare thing on a videogame forum: INSIGHT. If I see you coming ingame there's a dozen reasons I'll be running in the opposite direction.

G36C at the bottom?
Well, I guess that would be true but I like own with that gun so it aint on the bottom of my list. And yes, the G3 is a really good gun. The only thing I don't like about it is it only has a 20 round capacity.

san4 wrote:

Two words: G3.

This is VERY useful info, don't underestimate it.

in case anybody is still wondering, i can almost guarantee you that by repeatedly clicking u can get the full 900 rounds per minute (or something arbitrarily less than that) with the m16 and g36e. This is a large part of why these guns own. i am now kicking myself for not screenshotting one of the times in-game that i have been asked "marine, how do u get the m16 with full auto?"

On top of accuracy in general, there is another important consideration. "time to live." this is the amount of time it takes after stopping for the sights to 'close' and for your accuracy to maximize. it is:
                                                                                                                                         vvvvvvvvvv
1.0 seconds for the LMGs, the SCAR-H, F2000, all sniper rifles, the FAMAS, G36K, SCAR-L and THE G36E.
                                                                                                                                         ^^^^^^^^
0.5 seconds - ak101, ak47, m16, l85, g3, mp5, pp-19, type 85, m4, qbz-97, ak-74u, hk53a3, g36c

0.3 seconds - pistols

0.15 - all shotguns

i got all that information from this file. it also contains data on the amount of time it takes to kill armored and unarmored targets that is fairly similar to what u have posted in this thread, and just about anything else ud want to know about the infantry weapons (no AT or GL).

http://shormanm.home.mchsi.com/weapon-chart-1.22.JPG

The G36E isn't the ultimate pwner???????

In skilled hands, the m16 or AK have the potential to deal accurate damage faster than the g36e. Isnt it funny how people complain about a gun that isnt actually better? the g36e just rewards slow careful shooters (noobs). if u play as fast as possible with the g36e, it will randomly come up with crap accuracy when u need it most. u can come closer to trusting an ak, m16, mp5, or m4 to lands its very first shots in the moment of a spin-around snap shot.  sure if the g36e hit, it would probably kill faster, but if u move first your bullets will land, while the g36e noob fails to keep up with you. hence, using the g36e holds u back from a faster and more effective rate of play. On the other hand the L85 builds skill because it forces u to aim more carefully due to crap accuracy while encouraging full speed play.

Last edited by Marinejuana (2007-01-06 20:37:50)

all your evidence is useless without accuracy.

He's talking about maximum efficiency. From what he said, while the G36E gets maximum accuracy in 1 second, its counterpart the M16 gets maximum accuracy in 0.5 seconds. POTENTIALLY, the M16 can be used more efficiently then the G36E because it reaches optimal accuracy before the G36E.

In practice, G36E>M16 in terms of effectiveness. However, M16>G36E in terms of it's potential.

It's like the Sniper Rifle V. Assault Rifle. The Sniper rifle has HUGE potential, put it in the hands of an aimbot cheater, and only vehicles are taking him down. In reality, not quite true.

The G36E isn't the ultimate pwner???????

The G3 is.

Last edited by DisasterMaster (2007-01-06 20:49:35)

^^
That is why I'm weirdly better with an M16. I've alwas thought It was the mental thought of "YOUR USING A NOOB GUN" causing me to play more carelessly.

Marinejuana wrote:

by repeatedly clicking u can get the full 900 rounds per minute (or something arbitrarily less than that) with the m16 and g36e.

I beg to differ, its not possible, there is a built in pause preventing macro abuse.

The book ROF of both weapons is 15 rounds/sec (900/60) so 30 rounds should take 2 seconds but it actually takes 2.8 seconds (+/- 0.1s) to fully discharge a clip of 30 from either weapon, thats with the button being pressed faster than physically possible.

So out of the leftover time, split over 10 bursts thats 80ms pause per burst.  Or another way if we add the pauses per shots its an adjusted ROF of 643 rpm. (1000/(80ms+(3*66.667ms)/3)x60

in real life the pkm is alot faster in firing! missed that 1 EA