BF2S Forums Islam = Christianism = Judaism

I was raised Catholic, but then I got better.  From what was explained to me, the old testament is real old and was written by raging alcaholics and people who like the herb.  Therefore when reading the old testiment you must realize what Deuteronomy 13:7-11 actually ment was that you should knock on their door at night in the middle of primetime and try to convert them with some silly ass pamphet.

The Old Testament was written a very long time ago, in a very very brutal time and place. Of course it will have brutal passages, what would you expect? The same can be said of the Koran. Actually, Islam and Judaism not only share the place and period of birth but also the prophet Abraham. If you want a more peace loving religion, then try thw New Testament. Its much more civil, and you'll hardly find anything as direct and bloody as you'll find in the Old testament.

But in any case, simply taking out of context quotes of any book prooves absolutely nothing. If you really cared about what any of those religions say you sould study them more. Like the books recomended by DesertFox.

Deuteronomy is simply a book of laws. Ancient laws. In the UK they used to hang people for stealing a loaf of bread? Do they do that now? No. (I was raised jewish, I'm atheist now).

Also, unless you are in certain sects of all three religions (which most people aren't), you don't take the bible word for word.

Isn't the old testament the Jewish bible itself?

Anyways, the difference is you don't see christian/jewish fanatics as much as you see Islamic fanatics. Perhaps you should hold off declaring which book is more violent until you read them all, and not just a few passages that support your arguement.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Isn't the old testament the Jewish bible itself?

Anyways, the difference is you don't see christian/jewish fanatics as much as you see Islamic fanatics. Perhaps you should hold off declaring which book is more violent until you read them all, and not just a few passages that support your arguement.

Perhaps people should stop generalizing about Islam since most Muslims are peaceful persons just as Jewish and Christians are.  I took Deuteronomy only to show how people can generalize about something without seeing the whole pic.

sergeriver wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Isn't the old testament the Jewish bible itself?

Anyways, the difference is you don't see christian/jewish fanatics as much as you see Islamic fanatics. Perhaps you should hold off declaring which book is more violent until you read them all, and not just a few passages that support your arguement.

Perhaps people should stop generalizing about Islam since most Muslims are peaceful persons just as Jewish and Christians are.  I took Deuteronomy only to show how people can generalize about something without seeing the whole pic.

It's really not fair to judge an entire book based on one section. My advice to you is to read all 3 books and then say which one is most violent.

Who's generalizing about muslims? I know haven't. You just fucked yourself over with your own words. You were saying that the bible can be just as violent as the Koran by showing one passasge but now you're saying it was just to show that people can generalize. Friggin flip flopper.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Isn't the old testament the Jewish bible itself?

Anyways, the difference is you don't see christian/jewish fanatics as much as you see Islamic fanatics. Perhaps you should hold off declaring which book is more violent until you read them all, and not just a few passages that support your arguement.

Perhaps people should stop generalizing about Islam since most Muslims are peaceful persons just as Jewish and Christians are.  I took Deuteronomy only to show how people can generalize about something without seeing the whole pic.

It's really not fair to judge an entire book based on one section. My advice to you is to read all 3 books and then say which one is most violent.

Who's generalizing about muslims? I know haven't. You just fucked yourself over with your own words. You were saying that the bible can be just as violent as the Koran by showing one passasge but now you're saying it was just to show that people can generalize. Friggin flip flopper.

If I were a religious dude and the book that contains the principles of my faith had a section like Deuteronomy, I would be ashamed and I would like it to be cut from the rest.

jewish sucks and I am a jewish so you see the problem?

sergeriver wrote:

How come these two religions are more peaceful than Islam?

Who says this? With any religion it's in the interpretation. It just so happens that Islam is at the current time under attack from those who have a perverted and sick interpretation. If I am correct the word Islam means submission and to give your will entirely to god.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-01-06 11:58:00)

Vilham wrote:

Talon wrote:

Deuteronomy is simply a book of laws. Ancient laws. In the UK they used to hang people for stealing a loaf of bread? Do they do that now? No. (I was raised jewish, I'm atheist now).

Also, unless you are in certain sects of all three religions (which most people aren't), you don't take the bible word for word.

But the Bible is the word of God. You Blasphemer!!!! lol, that is how stupid religion is.

One, the bible isnt the word of god. The 10 commandments are. The bible was supposed ot have been written by six jewish leaders. Secondly, I am a blasphemer, as I wrote above that I am an atheist, and have been since I was 10 (I was agnostic since about 8). Thirdly, most of the old testament (4 out of 5 books, everything except deutoronomy) is a history of the jewish people, not the word of god. Deutoronomy is the laws, sort of a reference section.

Almost none of the 5 books are propehcy, thats mostly new testament.

I want some Christians or Jewish to answer why they consider their religions more peaceful than Islam if the Bible says terrible things like:

Oh, and its Jews, not Jewish.

Jewish is the adjective, Jew (or jewish person, which is more PC) is the noun.
Christian is the adjective and the noun.

Which brings to mind the joke: "Are you a Jew?" "No, I'm just jew-ish"

Last edited by Talon (2007-01-06 13:38:37)

sergeriver wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Isn't the old testament the Jewish bible itself?

Anyways, the difference is you don't see christian/jewish fanatics as much as you see Islamic fanatics. Perhaps you should hold off declaring which book is more violent until you read them all, and not just a few passages that support your arguement.

Perhaps people should stop generalizing about Islam since most Muslims are peaceful persons just as Jewish and Christians are.  I took Deuteronomy only to show how people can generalize about something without seeing the whole pic.

Good thing the Bible isn't just Deuteronomy, then. There are a few passages that would support the original actions and then much, much more that would condemn a person who followed it. I again go to the "He who is without sin cast the first stone" or "Thou shalt not kill" arguements.

Well that lowered the tone...