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Poll

Was Saddam's Hanging the Right Thing?

Yes65%65% - 202
No34%34% - 106
Total: 308
2006-12-30 18:24:15
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|7015|sWEEDen
You really should try Sweden... clean and nice and freedom of speach for real. We don´t have much guns here...bring one and we can rob some banks and I´ll go for that vacation also.

Also France might be one of the worst examples of europe, sure there are gangs and such (thoose spoken of,where they muslim gangs or french ones?)....but you don´t NEED the gun for defense...cuase most gangs don´t have guns, and in general the voilence is much less hardcore in europe. Also as a tourist in france you might have too be a bit more cautious then most french. Just as in any country you are visiting.

And I can´t say that europe is a peaceloving place after 2 WW´s...but we learn all the time.

Ever heard of Echelon?
2006-12-30 18:39:59
sfarrar33
Halogenoalkane
+57|7046|InGerLand

arabeater wrote:

sfarrar33 wrote:

no the hanging was wrong
death by crazy hungarians with ironing boards baby yeah!
why was it wrong?
Do you not believe in capital punishment?
wha?
...maybe this is better
"instead of the hanging he should have been killed by crazy hungarians with ironing boards"

edit: for anyone that cares my view is that capital punishment is only right with iron solid evidence, like a murderer being caught on camera and his fingerprints being all over the murder weapon and victim, that sort of thing.

Last edited by sfarrar33 (2006-12-30 18:43:05)

2006-12-30 23:41:46
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

The people who executed him believed in capital punishment, the person being executed believed in capital punishment, yet some are trying to convince us that a third party almighty judge of morals is supposed to have the last say on what happens. The same people that preach minimal involvement are here trying to convince us that despite having little direct interest in the matter, they should have the final word on what the Iraqi's deem to be justice. It is now clearer than ever that those who want governments to govern themselves want them to do so unless they disagree. They make the point of isolationism while condemning the actions of governments left to handle their own matters.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-12-30 23:44:24)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-12-30 23:49:45
chuuby
Member
+19|7045
the us did not hang him. the iraqis did.
2006-12-30 23:51:00
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

chuuby wrote:

the us did not hang him. the iraqis did.
If that post was to me that was my point.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-12-31 00:04:11
DK_Vision
Self-loathing narcissist.
+41|6797|QUT, GP.
tl;dr

Probably backwashing what has already been said. But Saddam wasn't all together that bad at ruling. He instilled fear into all fanatical groups, and by doing that kept them under control. You can all see the ruckus going on at the moment, everyone killing everyone etc.

In closing, Saddam rules etc.
2006-12-31 00:08:28
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

sergeriver wrote:

We all know what Saddam did, but was his hanging right?  Was his trial a fair one?  Will Iraq be better now he's gone?  Or the civil war and the violence will increase?  Don't you think by hanging him they made him a martyr?
You forgot to ask...

Was it the real Hussein?
2006-12-31 01:56:01
reefl3x
Member
+72|6830|United States

LostFate wrote:

no..who the hell is america to barge in to someone elses country an take him from power..

they've made a bad situation 50 times worse, and hanging wtf is that all about...
Well if that leader killed thousands of his own people aka GENOCIDE.
Then we do. I could understand your point of view if Saddam was a peachy president, but he wasnt. he was a sick bastard who's probably getting molested by the Devil in hell.
2006-12-31 02:29:28
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

Somewhat related to my last post above, but...

http://www.toccionline.com/creations/realhussein/

A whole trilogy...didn't know a third was up. The third sticks in your head...

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-31 02:29:56)

2006-12-31 02:40:22
arson
Member
+99|7064|New York
Yes, let history record that the evil despot was put to death.
2006-12-31 02:43:02
Marine_fighter77
Member
+20|6784
No , I do not think it was right. Now more stuff is going to happen i saw on the news the people who followed suddam were pissed off and crying , now i think somthing is gonna happen ?  - - thats just me - - He did do a bad thing to many people but he should of just spent the rest of his lives in jail then a death sentence.
2006-12-31 05:23:17
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

Kmarion wrote:

The people who executed him believed in capital punishment, the person being executed believed in capital punishment, yet some are trying to convince us that a third party almighty judge of morals is supposed to have the last say on what happens. The same people that preach minimal involvement are here trying to convince us that despite having little direct interest in the matter, they should have the final word on what the Iraqi's deem to be justice. It is now clearer than ever that those who want governments to govern themselves want them to do so unless they disagree. They make the point of isolationism while condemning the actions of governments left to handle their own matters.
First of all, I'm questioning the method.  Second, was it the right moment to do this, when Iraq is in its worst crisis?  Nobody is saying Saddam was great, he was an asshole dictator, but don't forget who helped him to be there.
2006-12-31 05:30:52
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The people who executed him believed in capital punishment, the person being executed believed in capital punishment, yet some are trying to convince us that a third party almighty judge of morals is supposed to have the last say on what happens. The same people that preach minimal involvement are here trying to convince us that despite having little direct interest in the matter, they should have the final word on what the Iraqi's deem to be justice. It is now clearer than ever that those who want governments to govern themselves want them to do so unless they disagree. They make the point of isolationism while condemning the actions of governments left to handle their own matters.
First of all, I'm questioning the method.  Second, was it the right moment to do this, when Iraq is in its worst crisis?  Nobody is saying Saddam was great, he was an asshole dictator, but don't forget who helped him to be there.
It wasn't really directed at you in particular. The method I don't agree with neither but it is the middle east. The have some inhumane ways of dealing with crime. The timing was bad for more reasons than you stated also. I think this is around the time of the holiest month for Islam... unsure
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-12-31 05:33:03
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The people who executed him believed in capital punishment, the person being executed believed in capital punishment, yet some are trying to convince us that a third party almighty judge of morals is supposed to have the last say on what happens. The same people that preach minimal involvement are here trying to convince us that despite having little direct interest in the matter, they should have the final word on what the Iraqi's deem to be justice. It is now clearer than ever that those who want governments to govern themselves want them to do so unless they disagree. They make the point of isolationism while condemning the actions of governments left to handle their own matters.
First of all, I'm questioning the method.  Second, was it the right moment to do this, when Iraq is in its worst crisis?  Nobody is saying Saddam was great, he was an asshole dictator, but don't forget who helped him to be there.
It wasn't really directed at you in particular. The method I don't agree with neither but it is the middle east. The have some inhumane ways of dealing with crime. The timing was bad for more reasons than you stated also. I think this is around the time of the holiest month for Islam... unsure
Exactly, those assholes who judged him, didn't think what the best thing for Iraq was, and I can tell you that hanging him wasn't.  Did he deserve that?  Maybe, but Iraq will be worse now.
2006-12-31 05:36:27
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

First of all, I'm questioning the method.  Second, was it the right moment to do this, when Iraq is in its worst crisis?  Nobody is saying Saddam was great, he was an asshole dictator, but don't forget who helped him to be there.
It wasn't really directed at you in particular. The method I don't agree with neither but it is the middle east. The have some inhumane ways of dealing with crime. The timing was bad for more reasons than you stated also. I think this is around the time of the holiest month for Islam... unsure
Exactly, those assholes who judged him, didn't think what the best thing for Iraq was, and I can tell you that hanging him wasn't.  Did he deserve that?  Maybe, but Iraq will be worse now.
Our soldiers will no doubt be in the path of revenge as well.

Staff Sgt. David Earp, who also fought in 1991's Operation Desert Storm, said the execution worried him.

"In my opinion, something big is going to happen," said Earp, of Colorado. "There will be a response. Probably not today because they know we are looking for one, but soon."

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-12-31 05:37:13)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-12-31 05:40:56
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7185|Argentina

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It wasn't really directed at you in particular. The method I don't agree with neither but it is the middle east. The have some inhumane ways of dealing with crime. The timing was bad for more reasons than you stated also. I think this is around the time of the holiest month for Islam... unsure
Exactly, those assholes who judged him, didn't think what the best thing for Iraq was, and I can tell you that hanging him wasn't.  Did he deserve that?  Maybe, but Iraq will be worse now.
Our soldiers will no doubt be in the path of revenge as well.
Of course, they are victims here too.  They are making their job and they will suffer the consequences because of the mistake of someone else.  The people who judge Saddam and sentenced him to death, right now instead of waiting, didn't think about the soldiers or civilians at all.  Now, they'll have a harder time because of this.
2006-12-31 09:49:33
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6988

LostFate wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Copied and pasted my response from the other Saddam thread:

There is quite a distinct difference between Bush and Saddam. There is also quite a distinct difference between Bush and Hitler (but that doesn't stop many of you internet liberals from trying to draw such a comparison).

The difference between Saddam and Bush is that Saddam murdered hundreds of thousands of people to maintain order. According to Marconius, that is the "proper" way to maintain order in this region. While it may be the only way, it certainly is not proper nor acceptable in this day and age. I do agree with CameronPoe in that a civil war will fix many of Iraq's problems. Until that is finished, there will always be this extreme violence. What we essentially did was free a bunch of "animals" that Saddam had caged.

As for Bush's "crimes against humanity", there are many things which you are not taking into consideration. You, like many others, see things in only black and white. You ignore Saddam's horrible atrocities and focus on some far-fetched excuse to pin this on Bush. I, as an American, do not agree with many of Bush's policies, especially those regarding the war in Iraq. However, I, capable of rational thought, know that he is not guilty of these "crimes against humanity". Bush is not murdering Iraqi civilians to maintain order. Insurgents and death squads are. Your "far-fetched" observation is that Bush caused the insurgency, and therefore is responsible for everyone they kill. That is flawed logic, and a long way off from what Saddam did. The direct collateral damage caused solely by US military action is simply a byproduct of any war and has only caused a fraction of the civilian deaths in this campaign. If that is your reason for pinning these "crime against humanity" on Bush, then the same could be said for any and every world leader who ever went to war.

You say "Bush invaded Iraq without proof". That is yet another ignorant statement. Bush did base his decision on poor intelligence, but that does not make what he did illegal. Saddam violated a surrender condition of the first Gulf War when he refused to let in weapons inspectors.

There is my shred of common sense, rational thought, and logic for now. I do not usually address these childish and cliche "Hang Bush"  and "Who will judge Bush" comments because those who make those comments are usually so hopelessly biased, nearsighted, and ignorant that I would be wasting my breath. That said, I will not be addressing those posts any more.
Who's Going To Judge Bush?
God and the American people, but the only one that matters is God.
2006-12-31 09:59:57
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

^^^History will Judge^^^
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-12-31 10:32:58
USARANGER01
Member
+35|7075|America
he deserved it
2006-12-31 11:34:24
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7099|UK

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The people who executed him believed in capital punishment, the person being executed believed in capital punishment, yet some are trying to convince us that a third party almighty judge of morals is supposed to have the last say on what happens. The same people that preach minimal involvement are here trying to convince us that despite having little direct interest in the matter, they should have the final word on what the Iraqi's deem to be justice. It is now clearer than ever that those who want governments to govern themselves want them to do so unless they disagree. They make the point of isolationism while condemning the actions of governments left to handle their own matters.
First of all, I'm questioning the method.  Second, was it the right moment to do this, when Iraq is in its worst crisis?  Nobody is saying Saddam was great, he was an asshole dictator, but don't forget who helped him to be there.
It wasn't really directed at you in particular. The method I don't agree with neither but it is the middle east. The have some inhumane ways of dealing with crime. The timing was bad for more reasons than you stated also. I think this is around the time of the holiest month for Islam... unsure
The timing was abhorrent.

He was executed on Eid ul-Adha which is essentially Christmas for Muslims.  There are 2 Eids each year, one after the Pilgrimage to Mecca (Eid ul-Adha) and the second to celebrate the completion of Ramadan (Eid ul-Fitr).  The dates of each Eid vary every year as the Muslim calendar is based on the lunar calendar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Adha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Fitr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan

Last edited by m3thod (2006-12-31 11:34:57)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2006-12-31 11:54:53
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6977|UK

justice wrote:

No...it was an easy way out for him, and they made him a martyr. (clap clap noobs)
2006-12-31 12:15:45
AndrewKF
Member
+3|6795
I won't say what i think now. What was done, is done.

Kmarion wrote:

^^^History will Judge^^^
I think that is the most accurate comment.
2006-12-31 12:17:52
arabeater
Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?
+49|7108|Colorado Springs, CO
Shouldve given him to the Kurds. They wouldve been more humane with him. //sarcasm//.
2006-12-31 12:43:10
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|7074
https://www.thamike.com/fn_images/satan_saddam.jpg

https://nonsensopedia.wikicities.com/images/c/c8/Satan_saddam.jpg
2006-12-31 12:47:30
Jussimies
Finnish commander whore
+76|7012|Finland
As an EU citicen I fully support our(Finlands) Minister of Foreign Affairs, who said: -''EU doesn't support death penalty even in this case''. So my answer is that instead of hanging him he should spend rest of his life in prison.

 

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