BF2S Forums Do sniper suits work?

im sure there was a time in my 500 hours when a sniper was concealed in a bush somewhere.  *shrug*  maybe I was tipsy

nope, most snipers (99.999%) are idiots and hide ontop of a hill so you can see them agenst the sky. Easy pickings.

they are pretty useful. Id rather be a sniper that looks like the swamp thing than be a sniper with a huge backpack that says SNIPER on it, like the cross on medics, or mines on engineers. or big fat ammo packs like support.

Not really harder to get a hs on em though.

The Ghillie suit? It works, but you have to be in an area with a fair amount of brush.

In the game no - I got to be a sneaky bastard

in real life

Unlike others willing to admit it, I'm gonna go out on a limb and have to say that they do work.

Of course, upon closer scrutinizaton of an area, I can almost always pick out a sniper in a ghillie suit.  For as many hours that I've put into the sniper kit, I've even been fairly good at picking out ghillie snipers with a passive scan of an area.  However, many factors play a role in all of this:

1.  As .:ronin:.|Patton said, just about any sniper silhouetted against the sky is typically an easy target.  Especially if they are atop a building, or a hill without other visual "background noise."  Maps like Daqing Oilfields, Songhua Stalemate, Midnight Sun, Operation Harvest, and all of the night maps make sniper concealment a whole lot easier against "silhouetting."

2.  Without the aid of a scope, many halfway decently concealed, moderately distant, snipers escape the notice of probably about 90-95% of the players making their movements from one place to another.  This is usually for those players who are more worried about running across vehicles, or other machine-gun wielders, rather than being concerned about most snipers being capable of hitting a moving target.  Thus, without the aid of a scope, a decently concealed sniper will escape the immediate notice from most opponents, if he's at a good distance from target.

3.  The ghillie suit is but one tool in the sniper's tool belt, and it's dependent upon the sniper's skill in using that tool.  Many other "tools" need to be taken into consideration in the ghillie's use.  Proper location, rifle shot report, movement, hit location from enemy sniper fire, enemy red name tags, talking on the radio, and many other things will give away a sniper.  With exception to the red name tag signaling a sniper as an enemy, a sniper can control his chances of being visually spotted to a degree.  The ghillie suit will only work so much to conceal a sniper, the rest is up to the sniper.

With just the above factors, I can tell you that the ghillie suit helps.  I'd even go so far as to say that any "awesomely great" player that says that they don't work, has probably run past a ghillied-out sniper without ever noticing them.  I know this, because I've played sniper enough to have seen the opposing top match scorers run past me without any hint of noticing me.  Does it fool those players all of the time?  Not at all.  Experience and practice is another factor that must be taken into consideration.  That, and vigilant, combat alertness.

If you don't believe me, keep track of your deaths as a sniper on vanilla Bf2 maps vs. the Special Forces maps (where snipers are without their ghillies).  If you're actually attempting to use concealment, I'd still wager that you'll die more on the Bf2:SF maps over the vanilla Bf2 counterparts.

I got fooled once or twice...(Tahat I'm aware...so add maybe 10-15 times in my 250+ hrs of playing)

Ghille is useless , because when you aim this trying to hide bush-with-rifle - simply , his red nick is showed out . It is quiet stupid ...

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

nope, most snipers (99.999%) are idiots and hide ontop of a hill so you can see them agenst the sky. Easy pickings.

QFT I dont know why every sniper has to get on a roof top...The suits do not make god cammo against the skyline...

I actualy had that pointed out to me in one of the guides here, the suit can be rather effective, but you have to remember your backdrop.

The suit is good enough that tanks drive by me while I sit in some bushes all the time, but not good enough if the tank is staring in my direction.

Its not going to turn you invisable the second you prone, but you can lay prone in the middle of a hillside for a long time if your in a patch that is the right color/texture.

Its good but you need to be hidden in the right spot. Its probably especially good on dark maps like daqing oilfields, but I dont play sniper much.

i was with Books_DCDF the other day. (a while back now), and he hid in some bushes under the bridge near bridge base. A tank was no more than 7 m. away. No shit. Was pretty amazing. My vote goes fo rit working, if you know how to use it.