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2006-12-05 23:11:28
BVC
Member
+325|6954
Has anybody here heard whats going on in Fiji?  Slightly curious?  Don't care?

The instigator and head of the RFMF (Royal Fijian Military Forces), Commodore Frank Bainimarama, has mobilized the entire Fijian military, including the territorials for the coup, putting them through training exercises aimed at heading off a "foreign intervention" (he may as well  have said "an ANZAC invasion"), and later taking countrol of the entire country.  In the process many officials have been ousted, the police disarmed and members of the press harrased by soldiers carrying automatic rifles.

His reason for the coup is that he wants to "clean up" corruption in Fiji.  Hes pissed at a bill which would pardon the insigators of the previous coup, among other things...but he also has an axe to grind with regards to the attempt on his life during the previous coup (2000), AND before the shit started he was demanding that investigations against him be stopped.  Smell fishy yet?

Australia and New Zealand have refused a request for military assistance by the country's democratically elected (and now-deposed) Prime Minister, Laisenia Qarase, wishing to avoid a bloodbath.

Wiki because its all you need:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Fijia … 7%C3%A9tat
2006-12-05 23:13:43
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

It's very messed up. I'm still trying to make sense of it.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-12-05 23:16:10
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6679|Melbourne, AUS
it is said that democracy is like a delicate flower. If the correct political, social and economical climate are not present, it will wilt in death, or be manipulated as a tool for the power hungry. Sage words imo.

Last edited by maffiaw (2006-12-05 23:16:19)

2006-12-06 02:23:57
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6814
Completely isolate them from the outside world and see how they get on (with aid airdropped to civilians only). We'll see how many bullets and tanks they can carve out of coconut trees!
2006-12-06 03:08:35
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7026
How can Australia ans NZ stand by and watch a coup happen? This is a democratically elected government being overthrown.

Maybe they were thinking about it cos the SAS was stationed off the coast ready to be deployed.

Then again, maybe this suits AUS and NZ better politically.

Totally amazes me.
2006-12-06 04:23:21
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6820

BN wrote:

How can Australia ans NZ stand by and watch a coup happen? This is a democratically elected government being overthrown.

Maybe they were thinking about it cos the SAS was stationed off the coast ready to be deployed.

Then again, maybe this suits AUS and NZ better politically.

Totally amazes me.
Yes, because other countries are so very dedicated to helping others at their own expense.................

At the minute, we're kind of a little busy with the rest of our neighbours.  Would I like us to help?  Yes.  Can I understand the logic behind not comitting?  For once, yes.  Fiji and the Solomon Islands are both as bad as Fiji at the minute, and there are other countries we assist also.  If we aren't careful, we're going to end up running a whole heap of tiny little islands which we don't own or want.
2006-12-06 04:25:16
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
who gives a shit about Fiji? seriosuly its one dot on the map that contributes to nothing
2006-12-06 04:31:50
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6814

Mongoose wrote:

who gives a shit about Fiji? seriosuly its one dot on the map that contributes to nothing
Holy shit. That's like someone throwing the old 'prison colony' insult at Australia. Have some respect man.
2006-12-06 04:32:47
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6778|Adelaide, South Australia

CameronPoe wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

who gives a shit about Fiji? seriosuly its one dot on the map that contributes to nothing
Holy shit. That's like someone throwing the old 'prison colony' insult at Australia. Have some respect man.
2006-12-06 04:37:10
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6820

CameronPoe wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

who gives a shit about Fiji? seriosuly its one dot on the map that contributes to nothing
Holy shit. That's like someone throwing the old 'prison colony' insult at Australia. Have some respect man.
People like him are the reason Howard is in power, what do you expect?
2006-12-06 04:50:56
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
rofl im 15 dude, i honestly dont give a stuff about any little island in the pacific. its there problem so why should we have to come in and save them from themselves? what isint this liek the 3rd cuop theyve had in the last 25 or so years?
2006-12-06 04:53:27
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6820
Probably more than 3, but if we're running around going on about bringing democracy to the Middle East, shouldn't we be supporting democracy in our neighbours?
2006-12-06 04:53:43
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7009|Chicago.

Mongoose wrote:

rofl im 15 dude, i honestly dont give a stuff about any little island in the pacific.
If your going to even consider posting in here, you better care.
2006-12-06 04:54:45
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
whoa bigmack no need to edit what i actually wrote to make it sound liek that

Last edited by Mongoose (2006-12-06 04:55:07)

2006-12-06 04:56:11
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6820
He didn't edit it to sound liek anything, genius.
2006-12-06 04:57:04
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
yea but he could have at least gievn the whole paragraph not just one sentence
2006-12-06 04:58:52
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7009|Chicago.
The rest of the paragraph was irrelevant to the point I was making. So It wasn't necessary to quote it.

As for the topic, I agree with Kmarion when he said:

Kmarion wrote:

It's very messed up. I'm still trying to make sense of it.

Last edited by BigmacK (2006-12-06 04:59:52)

2006-12-06 05:00:30
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6778|Adelaide, South Australia

Mongoose wrote:

rofl im 15 dude, i honestly dont give a stuff about any little island in the pacific. its there problem so why should we have to come in and save them from themselves? what isint this liek the 3rd cuop theyve had in the last 25 or so years?
https://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/Nachtefuchs/1163524603155ws5.gif
2006-12-06 05:04:09
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
righteo well i dont see the point in spending millions (or probably billions) of dollars trying to bring democracy to countries that obviously dont want it?
2006-12-06 05:23:33
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6788|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

Mongoose wrote:

righteo well i dont see the point in spending millions (or probably billions) of dollars trying to bring democracy to countries that obviously dont want it?
Fiji is very keen on democracy, however their current chief of the military isn't.

You don't read any newspapers do you?
2006-12-06 16:38:20
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6820
If course he does!  And the Herald Sun is a very reliable source


Or maybe mX?
2006-12-06 18:12:43
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6788|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:

If course he does!  And the Herald Sun is a very reliable source
Reading the Herald Sun for the main headlines is like watching Today Tonight or A Current Affair for the news.

Typical articles and stories in these are.....

-Muslims and Lebanese immigrants hate Australia
-Lose weight now, ask me how
-Jennifer Hawkins appears on cover of (insert magazines here)
-John Howard is a champion of the working Australian.
2006-12-06 19:58:41
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6820
You don't think that was maybe my point?
2006-12-06 20:03:29
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
Whats wrong with a current affair?
2006-12-06 20:08:04
Phantom2828
Member
+51|6786|Land of the free
"Australia and New Zealand have refused a request for military assistance by the country's democratically elected (and now-deposed) Prime Minister, Laisenia Qarase, "

HA
I always laugh at this. US seems to be the only country with enough morals to stand up for people anymore...

 

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