This is not an accounting forum, stats do not mean anything. Show me battle numbers.
Your Leopard 2A5 Specs link is a dud.
It's the technoly in it also..usmarine2007 wrote:
This is not an accounting forum, stats do not mean anything. Show me battle numbers.
Approved for implementation in 1995, the M1A2 SEP (System Enhancement Package) is a technology upgrade and standardization program, whereby the Army's fleet of M1s and M1A2s will all be brought to a common standard. Most notable among the modifications will be the introduction of a standard under armor auxiliary power unit and the addition a crew compartment air conditioning and cooling unit. Other modifications within the vehicle will include upgrades to the IVIS system (color display, full size keyboard, digital mapping and graphics generation capability, and voice recognition capabilities), upgrades to the Gunner's Primary Sight assembly, and improvement in the tank's intercom and radio communications systems. Production of the M1A2 was halted after the initial run of 627 vehicles. As part of the fleet upgrade program, 547 of the Army's current inventory of M1s are being upgraded to M1A2 SEP standards, which will require the complete remanufacturing of the turret, while the current fleet of M1A2s will undergo a retrofit to bring them up to SEP standards.
The M1A2 is currently available for export, albeit with a different armor composition and communications package. Saudi Arabia has purchased 312 M1A2s, equipped with British Jaguar radios, and Kuwait has purchased 218 similarly equipped M1A2s.
Description
The M1A2 is externally very similar in appearance to the M1A1 with the exception of the redesigned Commander's Weapon Station (CWS) and the Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer (CITV.) The powered cupola has been replaced with a manually operated anti aircraft pintle mount, which cannot be fired while the commander is "buttoned up." In addition, the hatch has been enlarged and the vision blocks have been enlarged, improving visibility. The CITV is mounted in an armored rotating cylinder on the turret access plate forward of the Loader's station. The CITV is tall enough to limit the effectiveness of the loader's M240 machine gun through its forward arc of fire.
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Is this like EA's patches or does it really work?Kmarion wrote:
Approved for implementation in 1995, the M1A2 SEP (System Enhancement Package) is a technology upgrade and standardization program, whereby the Army's fleet of M1s and M1A2s will all be brought to a common standard.
I'd hope it really works.sergeriver wrote:
Is this like EA's patches or does it really work?Kmarion wrote:
Approved for implementation in 1995, the M1A2 SEP (System Enhancement Package) is a technology upgrade and standardization program, whereby the Army's fleet of M1s and M1A2s will all be brought to a common standard.
k30dxedle wrote:
M1A2 .
M1 Abrams
Challenger 2
In terms of raw weaponry, the Leclerc
Challenger 2
In terms of raw weaponry, the Leclerc
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i was in the first gulf war and saw a blue on blue,3 hits and the chally blew a track......t54 taken out by drill rounds from chally..nuff saidusmarine2007 wrote:
The reason I say M1, is not because of "numbers" and "stats," it is because of the Gulf War.
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-73-easting
Challenger 2 = Win
Ammusing Video \/
Ammusing Video \/
read what u just wrote!!!!!!Big McLargehuge wrote:
I gotta get me one of those.ELITE-UK wrote:
news just in canada has ordered some tanks for its outdated army
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZetpyEq6o4&mode=related&search=I HIGHLY doubt that the RPGs penetrated the armor of the M1. It probably hit the engine and the tank caught fire.ELITE-UK wrote:
challenger 2, its pwnage and has no losses so far in the iraqi war, the m1a2 abrams has several losses from rpgs!!!
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Not sure I follow you. Can you re-phrase that? I have had a few jack and cokes.itsmeontelly wrote:
i was in the first gulf war and saw a blue on blue,3 hits and the chally blew a track......t54 taken out by drill rounds from chally..nuff saidusmarine2007 wrote:
The reason I say M1, is not because of "numbers" and "stats," it is because of the Gulf War.
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-73-easting
Not really a tank but a tank-hunter from WW2
JagdPanther
JagdPanther
You saying the Challenger tanks aren't battle tested?usmarine2007 wrote:
All I am saying is, I can only form an opinion if the tank is battle tested. Now, what you say might be true, but 82 to 1 ratio is very impressive.lessthangreene wrote:
We couldve taken out Iraq with a sherman.usmarine2007 wrote:
The reason I say M1, is not because of "numbers" and "stats," it is because of the Gulf War.
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-73-easting
Leopard 2 and Abrams A2, but even though I'm american ill say the L2.
They've got the longest range tank to tank kill of 4Km and a ratio of 300 to 0 for the Challenger 1 and no Challengers 2's have been destroyed in combat either (one shot another in a friendly fire incident though, that's been the only loss), don't know how many kills they've got though, I'd guess quite a few.
Those are pretty impressive battle statistics really.
m1 sherman with the bigger nun not the 105 the bigger gun
Frank the Tank.
/winCameronPoe wrote:
Frank the Tank.
usmarine2007 wrote:
/winCameronPoe wrote:
Frank the Tank.
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Tank Abbott
Best tank ever? Panzer IV:
Best tank at the moment? Challenger 2.
Best tank at the moment? Challenger 2.
commissargizz wrote:
Challenger2
TPM-J45P3R- wrote:
M1 - Smoothbore
Challenger2 - Rifled .. /win
Challenger has barely seen battle. M1 wins in that standpoint
as far as all time, Probably the Panzer IV
as far as all time, Probably the Panzer IV
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Whoa, thats a bad mf..Yaocelotl wrote:
Tank Abbott
http://www.ultimatecasting.com/images/tankabbott3.jpg
[youtbe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFSpEIsYXsI[/youtube]
You guys are ignoring the greatest advantage the M1 has over everyone else.Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
Best tank ever? Panzer IV:
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/N … _icr01.jpg
Best tank at the moment? Challenger 2.commissargizz wrote:
Challenger2TPM-J45P3R- wrote:
M1 - Smoothbore
Challenger2 - Rifled .. /win
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They are all about equal, comes down to crews.eagles1106 wrote:
M1, Challenger, Leopard, cant decide, theres a lot of great tanks out there with great qualities that differ.
Smart manstryyker wrote:
Challenger has barely seen battle. M1 wins in that standpoint
as far as all time, Probably the Panzer IV
But I said thatusmarine2007 wrote:
Smart manstryyker wrote:
Challenger has barely seen battle. M1 wins in that standpoint
as far as all time, Probably the Panzer IV