BF2S Forums Jimmy Carter

stryyker wrote:

As far as i have learned, Carter wasnt much of a "decisive" president. He was kinda halfway on alot of issues.

But who knows how much better a Peanut farmer from Arkansas is than a bumpkin from Texas

usmarine2005 wrote:

I was watching Discovery Times this evening, when the year 1978 was up for discussion.  After watching that I realized something I never really understood.  That year, and the Carter admin, marked the beginning of some of the worst problems we face today.  Saddam was coming into power, who he had to support in order to fight against Iran, who we perceived to be the bigger threat.  Russia invaded Afghanistan, which put the wheels in motion to the US supporting the Taliban, because we wanted to defeat communism.  Also, Iran was going thru a major shift in their relationship with the US.  It was a good relationship until that year.

I know there are many, MANY things we can point to in history, but the Carter years seem to stand out as the beginning of a lot of problems that we deal with today.

So, not knowing a lot about that era, how do you think Carter should have handled things knowing what we know now?

TeamZephyr wrote:

lowing wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I was watching Discovery Times this evening, when the year 1978 was up for discussion.  After watching that I realized something I never really understood.  That year, and the Carter admin, marked the beginning of some of the worst problems we face today.  Saddam was coming into power, who he had to support in order to fight against Iran, who we perceived to be the bigger threat.  Russia invaded Afghanistan, which put the wheels in motion to the US supporting the Taliban, because we wanted to defeat communism.  Also, Iran was going thru a major shift in their relationship with the US.  It was a good relationship until that year.

I know there are many, MANY things we can point to in history, but the Carter years seem to stand out as the beginning of a lot of problems that we deal with today.

So, not knowing a lot about that era, how do you think Carter should have handled things knowing what we know now?

Jimmy Carter is the father of modern liberalism, as such it is no surprise that his presidency and the problems that arose during it and after it, walk hand in hand.

Yeah, Jimmy Carter invented liberalism, thats why Jimmy Carter is bad.

Liberalism is bad, liberalism should be destroyed!

Screw what the US constitution says, screw Free Religion and Free Speech, liberals are bad! They are the worst people in society and the liberals are keeping America down!

lowing wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I was watching Discovery Times this evening, when the year 1978 was up for discussion.  After watching that I realized something I never really understood.  That year, and the Carter admin, marked the beginning of some of the worst problems we face today.  Saddam was coming into power, who he had to support in order to fight against Iran, who we perceived to be the bigger threat.  Russia invaded Afghanistan, which put the wheels in motion to the US supporting the Taliban, because we wanted to defeat communism.  Also, Iran was going thru a major shift in their relationship with the US.  It was a good relationship until that year.

I know there are many, MANY things we can point to in history, but the Carter years seem to stand out as the beginning of a lot of problems that we deal with today.

So, not knowing a lot about that era, how do you think Carter should have handled things knowing what we know now?

Jimmy Carter is the father of modern liberalism, as such it is no surprise that his presidency and the problems that arose during it and after it, walk hand in hand.

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I was watching Discovery Times this evening, when the year 1978 was up for discussion.  After watching that I realized something I never really understood.  That year, and the Carter admin, marked the beginning of some of the worst problems we face today.  Saddam was coming into power, who he had to support in order to fight against Iran, who we perceived to be the bigger threat.  Russia invaded Afghanistan, which put the wheels in motion to the US supporting the Taliban, because we wanted to defeat communism.  Also, Iran was going thru a major shift in their relationship with the US.  It was a good relationship until that year.

I know there are many, MANY things we can point to in history, but the Carter years seem to stand out as the beginning of a lot of problems that we deal with today.

So, not knowing a lot about that era, how do you think Carter should have handled things knowing what we know now?

Jimmy Carter is the father of modern liberalism, as such it is no surprise that his presidency and the problems that arose during it and after it, walk hand in hand.

Oh, yes, Liberals around the World take Carter as the father of modern Liberalism.  All Liberal beliefs were learned from Carter, oh yeah.  You should stop generalizing when talking about Liberals.

Last edited by lowing (2006-11-24 05:11:56)

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Oh, yes, Liberals around the World take Carter as the father of modern Liberalism.  All Liberal beliefs were learned from Carter, oh yeah.  You should stop generalizing when talking about Liberals.

I am not generalizing, Jimmy Carter is the first example,( that I can think of) of a president  that has adopted the European socialist idealogy for  the USA. So in that context in my humble opinon, he is the father of this movement in America.

I will give you that I should have said "in America" previously.

Ok, now we are talking.  I think Carter is underrated.  He tried to do good things for America with a Socialist view.  He was deeply concerned about the environment and I saw in a documentary he made a lot of things for minorities.  After leaving the office the man did a lot for Human Rights.  He seems to me like a good person, if he was a good or bad president I can't tell, but as Turquoise said, he took the presidency in a difficult moment.

teanzpher wrote:

Yeah, Jimmy Carter invented liberalism, thats why Jimmy Carter is bad.

Liberalism is bad, liberalism should be destroyed!

Screw what the US constitution says, screw Free Religion and Free Speech, liberals are bad! They are the worst people in society and the liberals are keeping America down!

Turquoise wrote:

1980 would have been the prime time to conquer Iran.  The revolution had just occurred, and Iran was in no position to defend itself against the most powerful country in the world.  We should have gotten Israeli on their asses.

lowing wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I was watching Discovery Times this evening, when the year 1978 was up for discussion.  After watching that I realized something I never really understood.  That year, and the Carter admin, marked the beginning of some of the worst problems we face today.  Saddam was coming into power, who he had to support in order to fight against Iran, who we perceived to be the bigger threat.  Russia invaded Afghanistan, which put the wheels in motion to the US supporting the Taliban, because we wanted to defeat communism.  Also, Iran was going thru a major shift in their relationship with the US.  It was a good relationship until that year.

I know there are many, MANY things we can point to in history, but the Carter years seem to stand out as the beginning of a lot of problems that we deal with today.

So, not knowing a lot about that era, how do you think Carter should have handled things knowing what we know now?

Jimmy Carter is the father of modern liberalism, as such it is no surprise that his presidency and the problems that arose during it and after it, walk hand in hand.