May I taze you?CoronadoSEAL wrote:
the police were totally justified in their actions. period. i haven't seen such a collection of angry liberals in my entire life. i probably would have been throwing punches in that library.
Can you hear yourself? You would have through punches in the library? Thats the whole reason this is ridiculous, they guy got fried for not showing his library card. If you can justify the action those officers took, fine, but honestly, fighting in a library? Please.CoronadoSEAL wrote:
the police were totally justified in their actions. period. i haven't seen such a collection of angry liberals in my entire life. i probably would have been throwing punches in that library.
P.S: Of course they are angry liberals, its a college campus. We think for ourselves
actually, he got fried becuase he didn't want to cooperate with offercers by STANDING UP.Protecus wrote:
Can you hear yourself? You would have through punches in the library? Thats the whole reason this is ridiculous, they guy got fried for not showing his library card. If you can justify the action those officers took, fine, but honestly, fighting in a library? Please.CoronadoSEAL wrote:
the police were totally justified in their actions. period. i haven't seen such a collection of angry liberals in my entire life. i probably would have been throwing punches in that library.
P.S: Of course they are angry liberals, its a college campus. We think for ourselves
and no, i OBVIOUSLY would not have thrown punches in the library. i was just stating my disgust with the amount of liberal in the library. <- go ahead and take that literally too.
-1 for you.
He didn't co-operate with the cops and he got tazed, now thats one thing. But to be asked to be giving your info and badge # to a citizen and reply with "back off, or you'll get tazed too." Thats just wrong. He wasn't doing anything to the cop. Those fucking cops deserve to get tazed how ever many times that guy got tazed.
watch carefully. he said "back off, or you'll get tazed too" because he was feeling threatened when the student was aggressively pointing into his face while standing only a few feet away. the police were severely outnumbered, and they were taking the necessary actions to make sure that other students behavior wouldn't escalate from "angry" to "out of control"gburndred wrote:
He didn't co-operate with the cops and he got tazed, now thats one thing. But to be asked to be giving your info and badge # to a citizen and reply with "back off, or you'll get tazed too." Thats just wrong. He wasn't doing anything to the cop. Those fucking cops deserve to get tazed how ever many times that guy got tazed.
-1 for you too
Last edited by CoronadoSEAL (2006-11-16 15:16:38)
You tree huggers can cry all you want. It doesn't matter if he was no danger to anyone, he refused to cooperate with the police. He was in a restricted area, without the proper ID, and refused to leave in a timely manner. In addition to that, he refused to immediately leave when the police arrived. Instead, he carried on like a drama queen, screaming and raving like a complete idiot. The article even says:Protecus wrote:
Can you hear yourself? You would have through punches in the library? Thats the whole reason this is ridiculous, they guy got fried for not showing his library card. If you can justify the action those officers took, fine, but honestly, fighting in a library? Please.
P.S: Of course they are angry liberals, its a college campus. We think for ourselves
"It's an electrical shock. ... It causes pain," Young said, adding that the drive stun would not likely demobilize a person or cause residual pain after the shock was administered. Young also said a Taser is less forceful than a baton, for example.
The taser was the humane way to deal with this, and the police officers were perfectly justified. Before tasers, police officers would have to resort to using their baton, which would often break bones on impact. This is how law enforcement works and it happens every day. Personally, I would've given that jackass the baton.
Also, I find it hilarious that he carries on about the Patriot Act. When your name is Mostafa Tabatabainejad, you're in a restricted area, lack proper ID, refuse to leave in a timely manner, and refuse to cooperate with the police....how can you not see that coming? Stupid people deserve what they get.
Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-11-16 15:12:08)
"Restricted area?" A restricted area is the White House font lawn. A restricted area is the bathroom stall in Area 51. He was in a library computer lab.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
It doesn't matter if he was no danger to anyone, he refused to cooperate with the police. He was in a restricted area, without the proper ID, and refused to leave in a timely manner.
And about his name. So if it was Bob, this would be an atrocity, but since you can't pronounce it, it's quite alright. Hell, you'd help replace the batteries in the thing so they could go at him again, right?
Mmm, is somebody cooking falafels?
fuck the police
Taken from the article:Protecus wrote:
"Restricted area?" A restricted area is the White House font lawn. A restricted area is the bathroom stall in Area 51. He was in a library computer lab.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
It doesn't matter if he was no danger to anyone, he refused to cooperate with the police. He was in a restricted area, without the proper ID, and refused to leave in a timely manner.
And about his name. So if it was Bob, this would be an atrocity, but since you can't pronounce it, it's quite alright. Hell, you'd help replace the batteries in the thing so they could go at him again, right?
Because of the safety of the students we limit the use after 11 to just students, staff and faculty
Students, staff, and faculty only. He couldn't produce an ID, so effectively he is not a student. He is in a restricted area because he lacks the necessary ID.
cept you can't for a good few minutes after being tazered... it basically incapacitates you... making it really hard to use your muscles correctly... (hence how effective it is).Pug wrote:
Just do what the officers ask you to do and you don't get tazed.
those cops were morons... especially the guy who refused to give his name and number and instead offered to taser the crowd.
If five cops cant detain one unarmed, non-threatening teenager without trying to fry him first, then they seriously need to be behind desks..
shit... i forget my pass for work somedays..Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Taken from the article:Protecus wrote:
"Restricted area?" A restricted area is the White House font lawn. A restricted area is the bathroom stall in Area 51. He was in a library computer lab.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
It doesn't matter if he was no danger to anyone, he refused to cooperate with the police. He was in a restricted area, without the proper ID, and refused to leave in a timely manner.
And about his name. So if it was Bob, this would be an atrocity, but since you can't pronounce it, it's quite alright. Hell, you'd help replace the batteries in the thing so they could go at him again, right?
Because of the safety of the students we limit the use after 11 to just students, staff and faculty
Students, staff, and faculty only. He couldn't produce an ID, so effectively he is not a student. He is in a restricted area because he lacks the necessary ID.
reckon I shoud just get it implanted to my hand just incase I get tazered for using the drinks machine!
Wrong.Sk wrote:
cept you can't for a good few minutes after being tazered... it basically incapacitates you... making it really hard to use your muscles correctly... (hence how effective it is).
"It's an electrical shock. ... It causes pain," Young said, adding that the drive stun would not likely demobilize a person or cause residual pain after the shock was administered. Young also said a Taser is less forceful than a baton, for example.
The taser is used because the pain and effects end as soon as the electrical current is stopped.
Wrong again. They were outnumbered in a crowd of angry students while dealing with an out of control idiot.Sk wrote:
those cops were morons... especially the guy who refused to give his name and number and instead offered to taser the crowd.
Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-11-16 15:59:00)
I've been shot with a stun gun and yes it does hurt like a b****. The electrical charge literally knocked me off my feet. That being said, once the charge was turned off it only took me a couple of seconds to regain enough control of my body to stand up. Also watching the few seconds you actually see the guy getting tazed, it seems pretty clear that he could have complied with the officers if he wanted to. He had more than enough strength and control to try to throw his weight around. As for the getting of the badge numbers, I agree that the students had a right to get them. However, there is a time and a place for everything. Trying to get those numbers when the officers are in the middle of trying to restrain someone is most definitely not the time to do that.
On the other hand, I've seen plenty of officers become taze happy. Probably has something to do with the fact that tazers can be the easiest way to do subdue someone without leaving lasting damage.
On the other hand, I've seen plenty of officers become taze happy. Probably has something to do with the fact that tazers can be the easiest way to do subdue someone without leaving lasting damage.
Last edited by mcgid1 (2006-11-16 16:07:30)
Read the article and watch the video, or do not post here. You're only making a fool of yourself. The kid was told to leave the library because he lacked the necessary ID. He refused to. The cops arrived and told him to immediately leave and he still refused to. He had plenty of opportunities to cooperate.Sk wrote:
shit... i forget my pass for work somedays..
reckon I shoud just get it implanted to my hand just incase I get tazered for using the drinks machine!
Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-11-16 16:01:07)
Fucking weak officers. Can't even get a guy up without having to taze him. Not the guys i'd want protecting my safety. No way man. There's always other way to deal with people who are aren't complying. Even pepper spray would've been ok. But a fucking tazer?
Being tazered for not being able to show a library ID????
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
I was deeply disturbed after seeing that video..... HOW ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING STUPID. He is in a place that requires ID, and he doesn't have it so the police ask him to leave. He says fuck off and still doesn't leave. They then tazer him. What is wrong with that? Then he still refuses to get up and get out so they keep tazering him. Nothing wrong with that. And to add on to it there is some stupid bitch CRYING over this in the background. I lol'ed
Why couldn't pick up the kid and drag his ass to the car? Was he of some threat to the cops? Please.
Doing their job? "Pick up that can. Now put it in the trash." You know, the cops could've just drug his ass out of there. Whatever peace the student was disturbing was amplified several times by the multiple shocks received, drama-queening or not.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-11-16 16:46:04)
It's UCLA, what do you expect?
Give me a break......That kid is a fucking idiot and those guys didn't use any excessive force. They gave him several chances to comply, and he refused. They warned him every time before they tazed him, and he still refused. Maybe instead of screaming liberal shit like "Here's your fucking Patriot Act", and "I have a medical condition........waaaaaaaaahhhhhh", he should have simply LEFT THE LIBRARY. Doesn't suprise me comming out of a California liberal school though. Fucking drama queen. I have shot 3 people with the tazer, and been hit with it for 5 seconds in training so I know it hurts like hell. But it doesn't have lasting effects, and hurts alot less than us having to beat the shit out of you because you don't want to do what you are told.
I thought that they were being abusive at first because, if he said he was going to leave, just follow him, i mean.... what the hell is he going to do in a library? Grab books off the shelf and read them as he runs away from you? And there is no way they thought he was a threat, i mean... who brings a gun to a library? lol
But he should have gotten up and left after the first tazer.
But he should have gotten up and left after the first tazer.
That kid deserved everything he got...he got ample amounts of warnings. i realize he SAID "i will walk out" but he never actually got up to walk out. He was obviously just pulling a stunt to get famous for 15 minutes. i have seen plenty of tazing videos and nobody has had a problem standing up after about 10 seconds of being tazed. He was obviously doing it on purpose to get attention.
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The more I hear about this the more I'm scared of LA. They should secede and become "Crimeikstan".
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