That's all very fair for you to say. I still haven't heard any suggestions about how to defeat ISIS or contain Putin from anyone here. Occasionally Uzique will pop up and talk about Assad being great for Syria though.
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Reductio ad absurdam
More troops = shorter war - Who knew?
Assad may well be better for Syria than ISIS - Syria would have less democracy, not more, ISIS would crush any uprising far more brutally.
Defeat ISIS, contain Putin - the world would not be in this situation if George Jr hadn't invaded Iraq for who knows what reason.
My solution - Get a resolution through the UN allowing total war against Assad unless he ceases all military activity, have a coalition of about 100,000 troops sweep across Northern Iraq and Syria cleaning up anyone who chooses to fight them - Russians and Turks from the North, Iraq and everyone else from the south, set up regional govt's, a nation for the Kurds, return the refugees and leave them to it. If it sparks up again then repeat until they get bored.
Not much different from the Iraq invasion really except this time there is justification.
More troops = shorter war - Who knew?
Assad may well be better for Syria than ISIS - Syria would have less democracy, not more, ISIS would crush any uprising far more brutally.
Defeat ISIS, contain Putin - the world would not be in this situation if George Jr hadn't invaded Iraq for who knows what reason.
My solution - Get a resolution through the UN allowing total war against Assad unless he ceases all military activity, have a coalition of about 100,000 troops sweep across Northern Iraq and Syria cleaning up anyone who chooses to fight them - Russians and Turks from the North, Iraq and everyone else from the south, set up regional govt's, a nation for the Kurds, return the refugees and leave them to it. If it sparks up again then repeat until they get bored.
Not much different from the Iraq invasion really except this time there is justification.
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Get a resolution through the UN
We just need to leave isis alone so they can fight their own batshit crazy religion over there.
This is the path to moderation for the sand people.
Hopefully they go after the Saudis and Iranians. This is a ME problem best solved by the Israelis, Europe, Africans, Asians, Russians, UN, Indians, mooslems.......
America should just be concerned with making money off of the war by selling weapons to both sides and bitching about how bad all the other countries are like European countries do when the US tries to unfuck that part of the world.
This is the path to moderation for the sand people.
Hopefully they go after the Saudis and Iranians. This is a ME problem best solved by the Israelis, Europe, Africans, Asians, Russians, UN, Indians, mooslems.......
America should just be concerned with making money off of the war by selling weapons to both sides and bitching about how bad all the other countries are like European countries do when the US tries to unfuck that part of the world.
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that's the problem, we make tons of money off the war. it's why we're still in it, and why we keep going back. the crazies over there see that and kill us for supporting their enemy (israel).
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Ignoring the issue won't stop terrorist attacks from happening or refugees from coming. Your idea will make things worse and prolong this.MajorSpittle wrote:
We just need to leave isis alone so they can fight their own batshit crazy religion over there.
This is the path to moderation for the sand people.
Hopefully they go after the Saudis and Iranians. This is a ME problem best solved by the Israelis, Europe, Africans, Asians, Russians, UN, Indians, mooslems.......
America should just be concerned with making money off of the war by selling weapons to both sides and bitching about how bad all the other countries are like European countries do when the US tries to unfuck that part of the world.
The US has consistently worked to fuck that part of the worldMajorSpittle wrote:
when the US tries to unfuck that part of the world.
Israel
PNAC
Cauldronisation/Lebanonisation
There is no honest intent in Americas involvement in the ME (or South America, or Asia) and never has been
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You seem pretty convinced of whatever yours are already. Why do you need our input?SuperJail Warden wrote:
That's all very fair for you to say. I still haven't heard any suggestions about how to defeat ISIS or contain Putin from anyone here.
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I am interested in hearing everyone else's ideas?
not our fight. never was.
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Shadow Dogg Pound dropping knowledge. Did you read this article?Doctor Mantis Toboggan wrote:
not our fight. never was.
http://phasezero.gawker.com/an-intellig … 1699407909
I gave it to macbeth but he seems to ignore everything the dude is saying. I think you'd like it
i would like to purchase his books
DerpThe 2003 war in Iraq may be considered the greatest error in American policy since the Civil War. Its ramifications are earth-shattering and will impact us and our safety for generations. It may completely unravel the entire Middle East forever. Depose Saddam perhaps, but after 2003, the Iraqis did not want us there. They had sectarian grudges to settle and even if we had begged, we would still have been embroiled in heavy combat and with well over 10,000 dead soldiers and Afghanistan in the hands of the Taliban.
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All those German women would not have been assaulted if we had committed to resettling refugees in Iraq and Syria after destroying ISIS and overthrowing Assad.
of course. It all comes back to the US and their failed ME policy. Every. Single. Thing.
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Was that sarcasm?
Were you being serious in your statement? Therein lies your answer
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I was being serious. We needed to and still should invade Syria and Iraq.
why? make a good argument why the US should invade iraq and syria
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Because the only way the violence is ever going to stop is if an outside power oversees the partitioning of the country along ethno-sectarian lines. Until that happens, we are going to keep eating terrorist attacks and absorbing refugees who shouldn't be here. And our pushback against Putin and Iran needs to start here.
i don't think assad is good for syria. i think he's the least bad thing for syria, which is different. as a corollary i just don't think there's anything we can meaningfully do. i call it realistic. you keep trotting out solutions that sound like the story-arc to a season of 24.SuperJail Warden wrote:
That's all very fair for you to say. I still haven't heard any suggestions about how to defeat ISIS or contain Putin from anyone here. Occasionally Uzique will pop up and talk about Assad being great for Syria though.
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Assad has killed more civilians than anyone else in the war. He is bad for Syria. The rebels are perfectly able to provide services and security in their zones of control. Henry Kissinger agrees that the country needs to be balkanized.
I have zero respect for Henry Kissinger and his opinion on world affairs should be flushed down a toilet or printed and used as just about the finest outhouse wallpaper you've ever seen!
so you're criticising someone who killed a lot of civilians in the name of realpolitik and citing henry kissinger as your moral backup.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Assad has killed more civilians than anyone else in the war. He is bad for Syria. The rebels are perfectly able to provide services and security in their zones of control. Henry Kissinger agrees that the country needs to be balkanized.
good troll.