stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6992|California

American Government and Economics

standard class Senior year.

Personally, cant wait. I have some arguements ready.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6767

stryyker wrote:

American Government and Economics

standard class Senior year.

Personally, cant wait. I have some arguements ready.
Theres nothing to argue in a high school econ class.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6992|California

jonsimon wrote:

stryyker wrote:

American Government and Economics

standard class Senior year.

Personally, cant wait. I have some arguements ready.
Theres nothing to argue in a high school econ class.
Sure there is.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6767

stryyker wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

stryyker wrote:

American Government and Economics

standard class Senior year.

Personally, cant wait. I have some arguements ready.
Theres nothing to argue in a high school econ class.
Sure there is.
Like what? Gonna dispute supply and demand, or the circular flow?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6677|North Carolina

Sgt_Sieg wrote:

I've just about had it with the politics in my high school. Every day I get pounded by both ends of the political spectrum by students/faculty/whatever and I'm started to get pissed off. This may just be my own personal opinion but does anyone else agree with me in saying, "I'd like to learn in school not be pounded by political propaganda." Schools are no place for it, thoughts? By the way I searched and didn't see anything other posts devoted to just this topic.
Definitely man...  definitely...
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6677|North Carolina

IRONCHEF wrote:

Yep, sex education, religious based things (including creationism), and child psychology (and other such classes) should not be in schools...but they are.  And the teaching of politics is no exception, unless some basic rules of bias are followed.  Pitty.
Sex education SHOULD be in schools.  Then again, I believe all education should be privatized, so that the uptight parents and the realistic parents don't have to deal with each other.  With a privatized system, this whole set of issues becomes customizable.  Send your kids to whatever school you feel is appropriate in the area.
ts-pulsar
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Yeah, I know exactly what your talking about.  I never really got a lot of it coming from the right, but that's really cause my HS didn't really have any teachers that were conservative.  I had to listen to liberal statements from my teachers all day long.  And I just at it up, I was hard core liberal in high school, I think mainly cause of my teachers.  But my senior year I changed my opinion drastically, thanks to getting a part time job and discovering my hatred for taxes, and actually having a teacher (American history) who would actually argue with students on their political views be they conservative or liberal.  Got me thinking a lot more about where my values really were.


And in college it got even worse.  I was taking a business class and an economics class.  I wound up having a paper assigned from both classes that was word for word the same assignment.  Was supposed to write about the effects of the declining value of the dollar.  I used the same paper for both classes (hey, why work more?) in which I outlined the positive and negative effects.  In my econ class I got an A, in my business class I got an F.  And after confronting the teacher in my business class about it, she told me that there can be absolutely no positive effects of a declining dollar, especially because it was under the bush administration (this was in 2002).  I wound up taking the paper to the head of the business department and got it overturned, but I wound up dropping that class anyways, because after this incident I couldn't get a good grade on any paper in her class.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6677|North Carolina

ts-pulsar wrote:

And in college it got even worse.  I was taking a business class and an economics class.  I wound up having a paper assigned from both classes that was word for word the same assignment.  Was supposed to write about the effects of the declining value of the dollar.  I used the same paper for both classes (hey, why work more?) in which I outlined the positive and negative effects.  In my econ class I got an A, in my business class I got an F.  And after confronting the teacher in my business class about it, she told me that there can be absolutely no positive effects of a declining dollar, especially because it was under the bush administration (this was in 2002).  I wound up taking the paper to the head of the business department and got it overturned, but I wound up dropping that class anyways, because after this incident I couldn't get a good grade on any paper in her class.
That teacher should be fired....
ts-pulsar
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I think she wound up being fired, I wound up leaving that school (was just community college) that semester, commute was just too much of a pain in the ass to keep up, well over an hour from home to school and even worse if I was going from work to school.
.:XDR:.PureFodder
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IRONCHEF wrote:

kilgoretrout wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

Yep, sex education, religious based things (including creationism), and child psychology (and other such classes) should not be in schools...but they are.  And the teaching of politics is no exception, unless some basic rules of bias are followed.  Pitty.
Why shouldn't sex ed be taught in schools?  I agree that only academic studies of religion should be taught in schools, but why shouldn't psychology?  Politics is an incredibly important part of history, which should be taught in schools.  Politics should be taught, but I agree with the original post that it shouldn't be about what your teacher thinks, it should be about the issues and what the different parties think about the issues, so students can come to their own informed decisions.
Does sex education in school make the student a better citizen and contributor to society?  Does someone with a teaching credential have a better understanding of how to teach children better than their own parents?  Does sex ed in schools (particularly the part about abstinence or avoiding STDs) work?  No. No. and No. 

Politics, and the history thereof can be taught in school, but political opinions should not unless there is an exercise administered by the teacher, who remains unbiased, and uses the exercise to establish a lesson that people have political opinions and they should all be respected.  But this is more of an exercise onhow to appreciate free speech.  Actually debating or discussing political topics in school is not good.  Especially when our country is the dumbest in the world practically and when there's a drop out rate like we have.  There's sooo much more important cirriculum than sex ed, politics, child/family psychology (carrying a sack of flour around for a day to teach what it's like being pregnant is what I'm referencing and I got it from my child psychology class).
Not sure if anyone has heard of him outside Britain, but I was reading a book last week by Louis Theroux. The last chapter is him visiting a family in the US that are proper white supremists and the mom was home schooling them. If you ever want a really good reason why teachers are better than parents at teaching and not-brainwashing kids, read that chapter. 8 year olds really shouldn't come out with such scarry s**t. If parents are teaching kids to be hate filled racists you can't sack them.

Oh and avoiding getting or knowing how to get pregnant, avoiding catching STDs and avoiding aids are fairly important things for kids to know.

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