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2006-11-01 15:15:05
[RDH]Warlord
Quakecon Attendee
+17|6931|SLC, Utah, USA
I say LET them deny it.  Whatever they want to do.  I'm not gonna get mad over this, like they did over the Danish cartoons.  I see nothing wrong with that, and find nothing wrong with this.

I'm just mad that they get to do this "in retaliation" over the danish cartoons, and people will forgive them just because the danish did some cartoons, and everyone conveniently overlooks the violence that people have already (basically) accepted as "revenge" for the danish cartoons.  By my math, they get 2 things, we get one.
2006-11-01 15:17:05
CameronPoe
Member
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Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

It's freedom of expression. OK? Understand?
I never said they could not draw it?  Stop fucking attacking me for something I didn't say.  All I am saying is, they expressed such outrage, riots, etc....... and yet do the same thing, only worse.
Hypocrisy is not the preserve of Iran or of muslims in general. It's is a thoroughly human practice.
2006-11-01 15:18:03
[RDH]Warlord
Quakecon Attendee
+17|6931|SLC, Utah, USA
Also, as long as they don't start thinking it was a GOOD thing (talking about the holocaust here), they can deny it.  Just don't repeat it.

They already say that IF it happened, it would be bad.  But they are constantly casting doubt on whether it REALLY happened, or if it's the "influential jews" with their connections and power that just blew it out of proportion.  I myself can't believe that there can be such a conspiracy, but as long as they agree that such an event, IF IT HAPPENED, is bad.

Kinda like the Christian bible.  Some of the things in it may never have happened, but the bad things were still bad, the good things were still good.  Whether they happened or not is pretty pointless to discuss.
2006-11-01 16:00:10
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6923|USA

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Is this a 'rewording in the form of a debate topic' post then?  Here's what I was typing in that thread:

I think that it really proves the point that in the West it's unacceptable to incite hatred against Jews, but it's 'trendy' to do so against Muslims.  And so naturally, anyone complaining about Iran spreading hate against Jewish people would be a hypocrite unless they also speak out against the hatred incited against Muslims in Europe...
and just exactly how many murderous riots were carried out by the publication of jewish cartoons??
2006-11-01 16:01:05
CameronPoe
Member
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lowing wrote:

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Is this a 'rewording in the form of a debate topic' post then?  Here's what I was typing in that thread:

I think that it really proves the point that in the West it's unacceptable to incite hatred against Jews, but it's 'trendy' to do so against Muslims.  And so naturally, anyone complaining about Iran spreading hate against Jewish people would be a hypocrite unless they also speak out against the hatred incited against Muslims in Europe...
and just exactly how many murderous riots were carried out by the publication of jewish cartoons??
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2006-11-01 16:01:13
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

lowing wrote:

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Is this a 'rewording in the form of a debate topic' post then?  Here's what I was typing in that thread:

I think that it really proves the point that in the West it's unacceptable to incite hatred against Jews, but it's 'trendy' to do so against Muslims.  And so naturally, anyone complaining about Iran spreading hate against Jewish people would be a hypocrite unless they also speak out against the hatred incited against Muslims in Europe...
and just exactly how many murderous riots were carried out by the publication of jewish cartoons??
None that I am aware of.
2006-11-01 16:02:47
CameronPoe
Member
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Newsflash people: drop the 'murderous' - NOBODY WAS KILLED!!!! Isn't it strange how stories distort in peoples minds over time...

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2006-11-01 16:07:11
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7014|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash people: drop the 'murderous' - NOBODY WAS KILLED!!!! Isn't it strange how stories distort in peoples minds over time...
what about the penguin? you're forgetting about the penguin!!
2006-11-01 16:08:11
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash people: drop the 'murderous' - NOBODY WAS KILLED!!!! Isn't it strange how stories distort in peoples minds over time...
Newsflash.......adjective.  Still didn't answer the question.  How many cars were burned today by Jews?
2006-11-01 16:09:20
CameronPoe
Member
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Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash people: drop the 'murderous' - NOBODY WAS KILLED!!!! Isn't it strange how stories distort in peoples minds over time...
Newsflash.......adjective.  Still didn't answer the question.  How many cars were burned today by Jews?
Well I know that some Israelis (who are probably Jewish) have been trashing up the eastern Gaza strip pretty good this evening. 8 dead, 60 wounded.

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2006-11-01 16:10:27
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash people: drop the 'murderous' - NOBODY WAS KILLED!!!! Isn't it strange how stories distort in peoples minds over time...
Newsflash.......adjective.  Still didn't answer the question.  How many cars were burned today by Jews?
Well I know that some Israelis (who are probably Jewish) have been trashing up the eastern Gaza strip pretty good this evening.
I was waiting for that from you.  Took you a while.
2006-11-01 16:11:40
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6732|UK
Half that shit never really is that offensive, if you really believed in your god or whatever then you should let your god take care of those who spite him. Fucking blown up media bollocks
2006-11-01 16:13:33
CameronPoe
Member
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Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

Newsflash.......adjective.  Still didn't answer the question.  How many cars were burned today by Jews?
Well I know that some Israelis (who are probably Jewish) have been trashing up the eastern Gaza strip pretty good this evening.
I was waiting for that from you.  Took you a while.
Well it's true isn't it? You asked, I answered. I forgot - Americans think Israel is filled with benevolent angels (generalistion: don't take offence decent America!).

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2006-11-01 16:16:22
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Well I know that some Israelis (who are probably Jewish) have been trashing up the eastern Gaza strip pretty good this evening.
I was waiting for that from you.  Took you a while.
Well it's true isn't it? You asked, I answered.
No...you didn't.  You diverted attention from the question.  How many Jews in the US, UK, or France took to the streets and burned things?
2006-11-01 16:19:07
CameronPoe
Member
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Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

I was waiting for that from you.  Took you a while.
Well it's true isn't it? You asked, I answered.
No...you didn't.  You diverted attention from the question.  How many Jews in the US, UK, or France took to the streets and burned things?
I don't know. What's the relevance? What are you trying to prove?

PS You asked how many cars Jews had burned today. I'd imagine a few are burning in Gaza right now (might not necessarily be Jewish people at fault: it's not correct to categorise by religion but 70% of all Israelis are Jewish and the IDF are trashing the place). Question answered.

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2006-11-01 16:21:28
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Well it's true isn't it? You asked, I answered.
No...you didn't.  You diverted attention from the question.  How many Jews in the US, UK, or France took to the streets and burned things?
I don't know. What's the relevance? What are you trying to prove?
Discussing, not trying to prove anything.  Free flow of ideas and opinions from a wide variety of people.  Why are you so damn defensive?  Did your entry not get picked?
2006-11-01 16:24:00
CameronPoe
Member
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Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:


No...you didn't.  You diverted attention from the question.  How many Jews in the US, UK, or France took to the streets and burned things?
I don't know. What's the relevance? What are you trying to prove?
Discussing, not trying to prove anything.  Free flow of ideas and opinions from a wide variety of people.  Why are you so damn defensive?  Did your entry not get picked?
Basically I sense that essentially you want the following conclusion to be drawn:

Muslims are bad. Muslims are crazy.

Kind of like the way Hitler demonized the Jews in the 40s. I would have protested that then and I'll protest this now. Because you're 'attempting' to be subtle and rather evasive I must concede that I'm making an assumption here but you did of course start a thread entitled: 'Muslim Idiots'. The clue was in the title...
2006-11-01 16:26:15
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


I don't know. What's the relevance? What are you trying to prove?
Discussing, not trying to prove anything.  Free flow of ideas and opinions from a wide variety of people.  Why are you so damn defensive?  Did your entry not get picked?
Basically I sense that essentially you want the following conclusion to be drawn:

Muslims are bad. Muslims are crazy.

Kind of like the way Hitler demonized the Jews in the 40s. I would have protested that then and I'll protest this now. Because you're 'attempting' to be subtle and rather evasive I must concede that I'm making an assumption here but you did of course start a thread entitled: 'Muslim Idiots'. The clue was in the title...
You are correct.  I think this "religion of peace" BS is exactly that, BS.  I would say the vast majority agree or even worse, do not condemn muslim extremists.
2006-11-01 16:27:37
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6677|North Carolina
I think Iranians were just looking for a reason to ridicule Jews, to be honest.  Take note that Denmark is not Jewish, so if the Iranian cartoons were really about the Mohammed cartoons, they'd be making cartoons of Danish culture.
2006-11-01 16:27:43
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|6917|Ohio
How is pissing off Jews fighting the Danes?
2006-11-01 16:27:48
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6827

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:


Discussing, not trying to prove anything.  Free flow of ideas and opinions from a wide variety of people.  Why are you so damn defensive?  Did your entry not get picked?
Basically I sense that essentially you want the following conclusion to be drawn:

Muslims are bad. Muslims are crazy.

Kind of like the way Hitler demonized the Jews in the 40s. I would have protested that then and I'll protest this now. Because you're 'attempting' to be subtle and rather evasive I must concede that I'm making an assumption here but you did of course start a thread entitled: 'Muslim Idiots'. The clue was in the title...
You are correct.  I think this "religion of peace" BS is exactly that, BS.  I would say the vast majority agree or even worse, do not condemn muslim extremists.
All I'll say is go to a muslim country. I've been to plenty. If you want the shock of your life go to Turkey. You'll soon change your fucking tune.
2006-11-01 16:28:35
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Basically I sense that essentially you want the following conclusion to be drawn:

Muslims are bad. Muslims are crazy.

Kind of like the way Hitler demonized the Jews in the 40s. I would have protested that then and I'll protest this now. Because you're 'attempting' to be subtle and rather evasive I must concede that I'm making an assumption here but you did of course start a thread entitled: 'Muslim Idiots'. The clue was in the title...
You are correct.  I think this "religion of peace" BS is exactly that, BS.  I would say the vast majority agree or even worse, do not condemn muslim extremists.
All I'll say is go to a muslim country. I've been to plenty. If you want the shock of your life go to Turkey. You'll soon change your fucking tune.
I have been to plenty, although in the military.
2006-11-01 16:29:30
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6827

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:


You are correct.  I think this "religion of peace" BS is exactly that, BS.  I would say the vast majority agree or even worse, do not condemn muslim extremists.
All I'll say is go to a muslim country. I've been to plenty. If you want the shock of your life go to Turkey. You'll soon change your fucking tune.
I have been to plenty, although in the military.
Well of course that'll shade your opinion. You'd be at the other end of one of their sniper crosshairs.
2006-11-01 16:33:45
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6916

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:


You are correct.  I think this "religion of peace" BS is exactly that, BS.  I would say the vast majority agree or even worse, do not condemn muslim extremists.
All I'll say is go to a muslim country. I've been to plenty. If you want the shock of your life go to Turkey. You'll soon change your fucking tune.
I have been to plenty, although in the military.
really? what branch and when and where?
2006-11-01 16:34:05
Clark W Griswald
Banned
+15|6672|Chicago

CameronPoe wrote:

Clark W Griswald wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


All I'll say is go to a muslim country. I've been to plenty. If you want the shock of your life go to Turkey. You'll soon change your fucking tune.
I have been to plenty, although in the military.
Well of course that'll shade your opinion. You'd be at the other end of one of their sniper crosshairs.
Maybe.  But all I know is, if I go to one of those countries, I might be kidnapped.  When one of them come over here, I do not remember seeing a muslim tourist being beheaded.

 

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