kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
So, I gots me some problems, I really got to sort them out before i can "pull the lever" again. I know it may also be happening to some of you other guys out there, and I thought I'd look for some input as to how you may be dealing with it.

Problem:
them thar damned republicans, so they started coming back in '96, with the help of the Newt started making some well needed changes as far as the direction the country was headed, throttling back spending (at first), tax cuts, the whole "contract with america" thing. however, as of late, they've started behaving more and more like, well, democrats. Lotsa spending, major jumps in governmental controls, dissenters that seem to be paying more attention to the critscisms of Sat Night Live than they do the party policies. The thing is I want them to remember why I voted for them in the first place. So at first I thought, maybe I should start voting for the libertarians a little more than usual and stick with my incumbent representative (democrat jim marshall, who i did vote for last time). Maybe punch the repubs in the nose, wake em up, let them know I'm sick of them getting all wishy washy and playing by the daily poll numbers instead of sticking to a longterm strategy for the nation. remind them that "appealing to the enemy" usually ends up in your defeat.

Then, over the past few weeks, some stuff was going on that got my attention. The budget deficit took a dramatic downfall and finally started heading in the right direction (I know there were some major and unavoidable contributing factors to its rise, but damn it was getting ridiculous). More repubs stepped up to support securing the borders outright (why is there even a question about that) and leaving the "illegal alien amnesty" school of thought. The economy continues to grow, despite a long awaited drop in the housing market. Tax revenue is up with the tax cuts, and there is more and more talk of making them permanent. Lastly, and the oddest of all, I saw a commercial for Jim Marshall (my dem representative) attempting to smear his opponent, it brought up two things. the fact that his opponent voted against minimum wage (may as well lower everyone else's pay instead), and that he supported a "23% national sales tax on EVERYTHING". I say odd because it was an attempt to smear Mac Collins, but actually got me more interested in voting FOR him. That last part is what caught my ear because that is how they try to fight the "fair tax" supporters, by running around and telling everyone "it'll increase the cost of everything by 23%!!!". Which is blatantly untrue, but most people don't know that, nor do they have the initiative to look into it themselves ( http://fairtax.org/ ).

and lastly, I just don't know how I can put up with a shrieking harpy like pelosi at the helm of the house, and the thought of tweedle-dee (D-Mass.) and tweedle-dum(D-Mass.) and dingy harry reid ending up at the heads of powerfull senate committees.

In summation, I'm torn between maintaining my support for my usual candidates, and hoping their recent change in attitude is a permanent thing, and that they won't re-pussify before the '08 race (imminently more important). Or do I give the dems a chance to remind everyone why we got sick of them in the first place, hoping they'll shoot themselves in the foot before '08, and pray to god they don't leave those people in Iraq to fend for themselves or tie up the next 2 years with ridiculous and unfounded impeachment trials and investigations. I've never been a party line voter, but am tempted to be this year just to keep Pelosi out, even if that means voting against Marshall.

Just wondering if anyone else is having the same issues.Unfortunately, you cannot post anonymously and your name will be visible, but don't worry, it happens to lots of guys.
MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|6853

kr@cker wrote:

So, I gots me some problems, I really got to sort them out before i can "pull the lever" again. I know it may also be happening to some of you other guys out there, and I thought I'd look for some input as to how you may be dealing with it.

Problem:
them thar damned republicans, so they started coming back in '96, with the help of the Newt started making some well needed changes as far as the direction the country was headed, throttling back spending (at first), tax cuts, the whole "contract with america" thing. however, as of late, they've started behaving more and more like, well, democrats. Lotsa spending, major jumps in governmental controls, dissenters that seem to be paying more attention to the critscisms of Sat Night Live than they do the party policies. The thing is I want them to remember why I voted for them in the first place. So at first I thought, maybe I should start voting for the libertarians a little more than usual and stick with my incumbent representative (democrat jim marshall, who i did vote for last time). Maybe punch the repubs in the nose, wake em up, let them know I'm sick of them getting all wishy washy and playing by the daily poll numbers instead of sticking to a longterm strategy for the nation. remind them that "appealing to the enemy" usually ends up in your defeat.

Then, over the past few weeks, some stuff was going on that got my attention. The budget deficit took a dramatic downfall and finally started heading in the right direction (I know there were some major and unavoidable contributing factors to its rise, but damn it was getting ridiculous). More repubs stepped up to support securing the borders outright (why is there even a question about that) and leaving the "illegal alien amnesty" school of thought. The economy continues to grow, despite a long awaited drop in the housing market. Tax revenue is up with the tax cuts, and there is more and more talk of making them permanent. Lastly, and the oddest of all, I saw a commercial for Jim Marshall (my dem representative) attempting to smear his opponent, it brought up two things. the fact that his opponent voted against minimum wage (may as well lower everyone else's pay instead), and that he supported a "23% national sales tax on EVERYTHING". I say odd because it was an attempt to smear Mac Collins, but actually got me more interested in voting FOR him. That last part is what caught my ear because that is how they try to fight the "fair tax" supporters, by running around and telling everyone "it'll increase the cost of everything by 23%!!!". Which is blatantly untrue, but most people don't know that, nor do they have the initiative to look into it themselves ( http://fairtax.org/ ).

and lastly, I just don't know how I can put up with a shrieking harpy like pelosi at the helm of the house, and the thought of tweedle-dee (D-Mass.) and tweedle-dum(D-Mass.) and dingy harry reid ending up at the heads of powerfull senate committees.

In summation, I'm torn between maintaining my support for my usual candidates, and hoping their recent change in attitude is a permanent thing, and that they won't re-pussify before the '08 race (imminently more important). Or do I give the dems a chance to remind everyone why we got sick of them in the first place, hoping they'll shoot themselves in the foot before '08, and pray to god they don't leave those people in Iraq to fend for themselves or tie up the next 2 years with ridiculous and unfounded impeachment trials and investigations. I've never been a party line voter, but am tempted to be this year just to keep Pelosi out, even if that means voting against Marshall.

Just wondering if anyone else is having the same issues.Unfortunately, you cannot post anonymously and your name will be visible, but don't worry, it happens to lots of guys.
Not to be a jackass.  But if your title read "Erectile Dysfunction"

I probably would have read it.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

Not to be a jackass.  But if your title read "Erectile Dysfunction"

I probably would have read it.
you may have just let us in on a little bit more info than you really wanted us to know


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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina
Good points, kracker.  I'm glad someone within the GOP sees this trend of big government permeating through the "small government" party.  If the GOP doesn't soon go back to its small government roots, the Libertarians could take up the slack.  Being mostly Libertarian myself, I actually hope this happens, but then again, it would be nice if the people already in office changed for the better as well....
MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|6853

kr@cker wrote:

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

Not to be a jackass.  But if your title read "Erectile Dysfunction"

I probably would have read it.
you may have just let us in on a little bit more info than you really wanted us to know


https://www.viagra.com/index.asp?source … 53926052|0
I lost my penis in the war.
13rin
Member
+977|6736
Don't do it Kr@cker!  Stay the course (even though Bush hasn't used that line in months)....  Look at what the Dems want to do you us....   USA would be screwed.  In my local elections I'm facing a .5 cent tax raise on the dollar to give the less fortunate extra health care.  Even thought the state and feds handle it, Leon county for some ungodly reason feels it should do more... Half cent? Big whoop right?  Say I want to buy a car or house. That half cent turns into an extra ten thousand dollars...  Even worse it that the county commision (run by dems) spent 180K for an education pamphlet (pro vote) of the proposed tax...  Heseus Cristo.  I HATE THOSE GUYS....
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
the problem is, voting for my party forces me to vote against a democratic incumbent which i actually like and have voted for in the past, but then the fair tax thing may be enough to justify it
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
oi, this morning i just found out the dem candidate has is normally endorsed by the NRA in the past, dammit, i gotta find out which one they're endorsing this year now
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7014|Argentina

kr@cker wrote:

the problem is, voting for my party forces me to vote against a democratic incumbent which i actually like and have voted for in the past, but then the fair tax thing may be enough to justify it
First time I saw the thread I thought "Oh, man, poor Kr@cker, he needs viagra.
You should vote not for your party but for the person who you think is the fittest.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
I know, and I normally don't vote party politics, I just don't know if I want to be a contributing factor to the election of "Speaker of the House Pelosi". I'm stuck, someone shoot me in the face.
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6875|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
yeah, when i get done with college im moving to australia or new zealand.

jk lol
Add me on Origin for Battlefield 4 fun: DesKmal
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
we all know you worked for the cynthia mckinney campaign, don't try to hide from it
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6786|Global Command
It's that feeling of desperation to keep the other team out of power that forces us to vote for bad polititians like George Bush.

My mantra right now is " Not one incumbent. "

Don't vote from a dem or rep. Vote independant. No matter what.


Call it a anti party line.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
but the dems will never do the same (that's what happened with the whole perot thing), so by doing that i'm pretty much guaranteeing a pelosi/reid win
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6875|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

kr@cker wrote:

we all know you worked for the cynthia mckinney campaign, don't try to hide from it
since i know what that is....

Add me on Origin for Battlefield 4 fun: DesKmal
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
she was your districts rep in the house (i think). the one slapping capitol hill police for stopping her when she didn't have her ID and then tried to say he was discriminating against her when she was asked to apologize (she had also walked through a security checkpoint without stopping). calling everyone that disagreed with her "racist", her bodyguard thugs were constantly slapping around the press corp and stealing their video tapes. she makes an interesting read if you wanna look her up
13rin
Member
+977|6736
Kr@cker, no matter what the Dem canidate tells you he will do once elected, don't believe it.  When the chips are down they will go Dem.  On his/her first day, the Dem leader is gonna tell them to vote their way or they will get no money from the Dem party next go around.  The "moderate dems" will be brought into line.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6752
Immigration is good for America. Who else will pay social security? It's a boost to taxes and a long term boon to the economy. All those immigrants want citizenship eventually.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Kr@cker, no matter what the Dem canidate tells you he will do once elected, don't believe it.  When the chips are down they will go Dem.  On his/her first day, the Dem leader is gonna tell them to vote their way or they will get no money from the Dem party next go around.  The "moderate dems" will be brought into line.
Sounds kind of like what happens to "moderate Republicans..."  Think McCain.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
no hell they don't, citizenship means taxes, the legal immigrants sure, that's why they're legal. why on earth would the illegals want to become citizens if they're getting all the benefits, even voting, with none of the responsibility
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina

jonsimon wrote:

Immigration is good for America. Who else will pay social security? It's a boost to taxes and a long term boon to the economy. All those immigrants want citizenship eventually.
Immigration is good also for taking care of our old people in a literal sense.  It's about the only thing that keeps our nation young.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6748|Northern California
Kracker, how bout being a good American and NOT voting along party lines?  You said it yourself, the parties are acting like each other so how can you decide?  Easy, dump the party BS and vote for individuals.

Oh, and give props to John Stewart for the "Electile Dysfunction" title you used.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
i don't watch him, i skip in and out once every few months, but at best he's predictable I think the last time i saw him was back during that ann coultier flap

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-11-01 17:04:55)

jonsimon
Member
+224|6752

Turquoise wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

Immigration is good for America. Who else will pay social security? It's a boost to taxes and a long term boon to the economy. All those immigrants want citizenship eventually.
Immigration is good also for taking care of our old people in a literal sense.  It's about the only thing that keeps our nation young.
Are you saying mexicans kill old people?
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
tis the circle of life

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