Vub
The Power of Two
+188|6532|Sydney, Australia
Hi everyone, firstly I would like to say that I'm not an awesome pilot or gunner, in fact my graphics card doesn't draw distances very well even though I set it to 100% and most vehicles don't appear until it's too late, but here are a few general tips to help those who can't find the feeling when flying in an attack chopper.

For the pilot:
    As the pilot your goal is to balance target spotting and staying alive. Although flying level and hovering is a brilliant way to rack up alot of kills for your gunner, you leave yourself open to anti tank personnel, tanks, APCs and other attack helicopters. Leave most of the killing for your gunner and use your 8 missiles as a defensive precaution in case your gunner misses or for engaging other helicopters. Barrel rolls are quite useless unless a jet is on your tail because most likely all you've done is lost alot of altitude and for stationary AA sites you're just as easy to take down. Usually AAs will get you down to red and can't kill you with only two shots, drop your flares and make a dive so it scrambles the AA sights for longer, and try to get behind buildings and walls so the AA loses your heat trail.
    Enemy jets love slowing down when shooting you down, the easiest way is not to TV them but rather fire your 8 missiles at it, usually 2 or 3 will bring it down and since they're travelling in a line slowly towards you, they make for an easy target.
    When engaging other helicopters, don't just gain altitude because it makes TVing you very easy. Try to roll to one side, wait for the TV to pass, then line up for your own gunner to TV the enemy chopper. If you get really close, use your 8 missiles! Getting them burning is enough to score the kill.

For the gunner:
    You are the primary offensive platform for engaging ground armour for your team so use your responsibility well. Not alot of things can harm you, AA is easy to avoid if you have a decent pilot and jets usually fly by too quickly to reengage you after you've dropped your flares. Your worst enemy is probably the enemy chopper.
    You have a TV missile, use it. It's not only for tanks and transports, but it's deadly effective against enemy attack and transport choppers. When shooting an attack chopper with your TV, wait till he is moving vertically or slightly sideways and fire away making small adjustments. If he's flying across your screen don't fire, you'll miss, unless you can lead it successfully. If you've never used the TV before, use your cross-hair to continuously click slightly in front of the helicopter. Where ever your cursor is is where the TV missile will centre on, and if you still can't hit it, just practise. Get a patient and good pilot and soon you'll be TVing everything in sight.
    It's generally good practise to destroy any AA sites before entering enemy territory to make sure you don't get a few AAs up your tail end, your pilot will be very thankful.
    If you missed a TV, don't go blazing with your cannon, because the enemy chopper might not know you're there and it gives you another shot. Using your cannon will tell your enemy where you are, and they'll turn around and you'll be in a chopper duel.
    Chopper duels are absolutely miracles of nature and they're extremely fun to watch and participate in. Remember, TV, switch to guns (he knows you are there anyway, so use your guns) and aim for the body because that'll give you the largest target area, after a while switch to TVs again. Try to coordinate it with your pilot when to TV, don't TV when he is rolling and pitching because it's very hard to aim.
    Shooting tanks and APCs should be no problem, although FAVs should be taken down by the gun only (it's too fast and your guns are good enough). TVing transport choppers is the easiest of all trades because they're so slow and unmaneuverable, if you miss just use your guns, your pilot can also help. Usually they'll bail and you can finish them off then.

So pilots and gunners each have their own roles and if coordinated well, you can lead your team to complete air domination. Don't get disheartened if you don't succeed at first, no one was born knowing how to TV choppers, it requires practise and patience. I've only been in a chopper for about 15 hours, not alot really, but I get a kick out of TVing attack choppers and transport choppers. Chopper gunning and piloting is just another skill waiting to be mastered (not saying I've fully mastered it though), so if you keep at it you'll be surprised at how good you become.

Oh, and for the record I use my keyboard to fly, I've never gotten the hang of the mouse

Good luck to all learner and budding attack chopper subjects.

Last edited by Vub (2006-10-25 06:46:22)

elite.mafia
Banned
+122|6492|USA
Tv missiles are effective against FAV's and dpv's.... Even if you don't hit dead on, you'll make them lose damage, making them easier targets.

And as a pilot your #1 goal is to be able to make your gunner think you are going to crash
elmo1337
Banned
+186|6597|The real world

elite.mafia wrote:

Tv missiles are effective against FAV's and dpv's.... Even if you don't hit dead on, you'll make them lose damage, making them easier targets.

And as a pilot your #1 goal is to be able to make your gunner think you are going to crash
yes and give him a good brownie in his pants
lynxlyran
Member
+15|6682
"If you get really close, use your 8 missiles!"

Wrong, they will all miss or if you are good, only 4 will hit because they come off the sides. So many times I have gone nose to nose real close to the enemy chopper and all the missles go right by to his left and right.

If you get really close, make sure the TV stays lined up so the gunner will hit just by firing.

Use up your missles from a moderate distance where they will converge on the target.

Nice writing and all and it was a pleasant read, but please get a veteran chopper badge before making a guide, ok?
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6529|Northern California
I thought this was going to be a sarcastic thread saying something like...

[Some advice for all chopper pilots and gunners]
GET OUTTA THE CHOPPER AND FIGHT ON THE GROUND LIKE A REAL MAN!!!
Shadow893
lel
+75|6730|England
lol @ IRONCHEF

quite frankly, we don't need any more 'guides' to help us, we have a load already. But i'm not flamig becasue I like many others appreciate what you're doing, just not when you repeat what many other people have already done.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6711|Maine

lynxlyran wrote:

"If you get really close, use your 8 missiles!"

Wrong, they will all miss or if you are good, only 4 will hit because they come off the sides. So many times I have gone nose to nose real close to the enemy chopper and all the missles go right by to his left and right.

If you get really close, make sure the TV stays lined up so the gunner will hit just by firing.

Use up your missles from a moderate distance where they will converge on the target.

Nice writing and all and it was a pleasant read, but please get a veteran chopper badge before making a guide, ok?
You must suck with them. I can make the pilot missles hit things most of the time. The only exception being the havok, because it's so wide.
Ubersturmbannfuhrer
I am a fucking homosexual
+211|6644|Parainen, Finland

elite.mafia wrote:

Tv missiles are effective against FAV's and dpv's.... Even if you don't hit dead on, you'll make them lose damage, making them easier targets.
That´s so true, and these small meanies are the best target practice a gunner can have, takes much more skill to hit a dpv or fav than a rolling or looping chopper!!!!

I enjoy training my missile skill on these small cars, (especially when I know how they feel when hellfire's and TV´s are raining from the sky!!!!

If you start to get them all the time, then you are a good gunner!!! AND, it gives you good points if there is a whole squad in a car!!!!


JAH SAY:
PRACTICE, MON!!!!
Vub
The Power of Two
+188|6532|Sydney, Australia
I apologise that the thread title is a bit deceptive, if a mod could change it to "Some advice for all beginner chopper pilots and gunners" that would be awesome.

I'm not advocating myself to be a really awesome attack chopper user, and I respect the fact that when it comes to chopper usage, I'm probably at the bottom of the barrel, but I found it really difficult to get the hang of choppers in BF2 and I wanted to make the learning curve a bit less inclined by making this quick guide to help out all beginner chopper pilots.

If it offended you then your skill level is probably too high for this thread.

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