King_County_Downy
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ATG wrote:

The difference between most Israeli acts of violence against civilians and most pallestinians acts of violence against civilians is that when its Israel, they are usually cases where people told to flee don't, or people being used as human shields by terrorist are killed.
     The pallestinians get their rocks off by blowing up, on purpose, themselfs amongst people they know are not combatents.
     The moral high ground is usually, clearly on the side of Israel.

     Go a head though, if it makes you feel better, keep hating the Jews.

     I notice the vast majority of liberals on these forums are from outside the U.S., mainly Europe, and I wouldn't want to upset any of your traditions.
Downy [humps] ATG's leg


Well said sir, well said. I don't understand how people can side with these animals.
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smtt686
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What a horrible thing to do even by those monsters standards
ATG
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Ikarti wrote:

ATG wrote:

I notice the vast majority of liberals on these forums are from outside the U.S., mainly Europe, and I wouldn't want to upset any of your traditions.
Just when I thought I was the master of low blows...
Low blow hell.

It wasn't Muslims committing genocide against the Jews, it was Europeans.

And WW2 wasn't the only time.

I find all the hatred and missunderstanding about Israel to be nothing more than a repeat of the rhetoric Hitler used to talk people into mass murder.

My family lost people in Europe making it stop.

Why, is the world so eager to listen to a bunch of crazy people spouting nonsense like the Jewish state doesn't have a right to exist?

What is the matter with you people? Can't you see you are being played for fools by anti-semites?
Ikarti
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I'd like you to take note of how you are quick to call the Palestinians monsters and animals and how quick to label anyone who considers Israel to be at fault anti-Semitic. I'll take Character Assassination for $500, Alex.
ATG
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First of all, my name is Alex, but I didn't call them monsters.
I'm calling them pawns.

Got to get back to work and commute home.
Smell ya later tonight!

*edit*

The Dome of the Rock
The Wailing Wall

Which one was built in 1948?
Niether.
To say that the Jews are illegal invaders defies reason.
Both people have historic ties to the land.

Last edited by ATG (2006-10-20 15:32:17)

Stingray24
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Ikarti wrote:

I'd like you to take note of how you are quick to call the Palestinians monsters and animals and how quick to label anyone who considers Israel to be at fault anti-Semitic. I'll take Character Assassination for $500, Alex.
Those who use their kids to blow up markets and buses = Terrorist = animal.   

Truth for $1,000.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2006-10-20 15:33:25)

Ikarti
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Stingray24 wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

I'd like you to take note of how you are quick to call the Palestinians monsters and animals and how quick to label anyone who considers Israel to be at fault anti-Semitic. I'll take Character Assassination for $500, Alex.
Those who use their kids to blow up markets and buses = Terrorist = animal.   

Truth for $1,000.
I don't recall suicide bombings there happening for awhile. I do recall Israel bombing the shit out of Lebanon and still oppressing the Palestinians.

EDIT: The Contras were terrorists but they weren't animals, now were they?

Last edited by Ikarti (2006-10-20 15:36:01)

Stingray24
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hurridave wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

hurridave wrote:

yeh but i need a poo
No one is laughing.
well im having a good  giggle to myself !!

Mod:  Well, I'm glad you enjoy yourself so much, because you will have lots of time alone now ... bye.
How bout banning some of the real jerks in here instead of the guy making poo jokes.
King_County_Downy
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I called them animals.  And I apologize for that. 'Insects' would be more fitting. They have no regard for human life, not even their own. They kill innocent civilians on purpose in the name of their god.
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Ikarti
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King_County_Downy wrote:

I called them animals.  And I apologize for that. 'Insects' would be more fitting. They have no regard for human life, not even their own. They kill innocent civilians on purpose in the name of their god.
I don't know what the IDF kills in the name of, but they get their fair share of innocent civilians too.
Stingray24
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Ikarti wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

I'd like you to take note of how you are quick to call the Palestinians monsters and animals and how quick to label anyone who considers Israel to be at fault anti-Semitic. I'll take Character Assassination for $500, Alex.
Those who use their kids to blow up markets and buses = Terrorist = animal.   

Truth for $1,000.
I don't recall suicide bombings there happening for awhile. I do recall Israel bombing the shit out of Lebanon and still oppressing the Palestinians.

EDIT: The Contras were terrorists but they weren't animals, now were they?
Um, no, they bombed Hezbollah and warned people to leave.  As I've said before, Hezbollah are pussies and put their rockets in civilian areas to protect their military hardware with civilians.  Then they can howl about the Israelis when they take out the rockets and people are killed when they won't leave. 

And stay on subject, we're not talking about the Contras.  The attempt at deflection didn't work.
King_County_Downy
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Ikarti wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

I called them animals.  And I apologize for that. 'Insects' would be more fitting. They have no regard for human life, not even their own. They kill innocent civilians on purpose in the name of their god.
I don't know what the IDF kills in the name of, but they get their fair share of innocent civilians too.
Key words being "On Purpose".
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Stingray24
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King_County_Downy wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

I called them animals.  And I apologize for that. 'Insects' would be more fitting. They have no regard for human life, not even their own. They kill innocent civilians on purpose in the name of their god.
I don't know what the IDF kills in the name of, but they get their fair share of innocent civilians too.
Key words being "On Purpose".
Exactly.  Big difference between targeting and collateral damage.  But we've argued that before and the supporters of the Palestinians still back the suicide bombings.
Ikarti
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King_County_Downy wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

I called them animals.  And I apologize for that. 'Insects' would be more fitting. They have no regard for human life, not even their own. They kill innocent civilians on purpose in the name of their god.
I don't know what the IDF kills in the name of, but they get their fair share of innocent civilians too.
Key words being "On Purpose".
Still applies. Israelis really don't care about Palestinian life.

Stingray24 wrote:

Um, no, they bombed Hezbollah and warned people to leave.  As I've said before, Hezbollah are pussies and put their rockets in civilian areas to protect their military hardware with civilians.  Then they can howl about the Israelis when they take out the rockets and people are killed when they won't leave. 

And stay on subject, we're not talking about the Contras.  The attempt at deflection didn't work.
Members of the IDF complained about how horribly run the operation was. The Mossad, which I consider to really know its shit, had a hard time pinpointing areas Hezbollah was in. Why did so much of Beirut get leveled? Areas absent of Hezbollah were hit. They certainly weren't hanging out at Hariri International Airport. Speaking of cowardice, what do you have to say about the IDF stationing its forces in Israeli Arab towns along the border?

And it wouldn't kill you to answer the Contra question. I'm simply curious if you feel different about them because Reagan said they were the good guys, or they weren't Muslim, or whatever reason.
King_County_Downy
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If Israel had the same disregard for innocent life that Hezbollah did, there would be no Palestine left. PERIOD.
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Ikarti
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King_County_Downy wrote:

If Israel had the same disregard for innocent life that Hezbollah did, there would be no Palestine left. PERIOD.
If Israel had the resources the US has without being dependant on another country, there'd be no Palestinians left either. Thankfully, some people here won't let that happen.
King_County_Downy
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Ikarti wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

If Israel had the same disregard for innocent life that Hezbollah did, there would be no Palestine left. PERIOD.
If Israel had the resources the US has without being dependant on another country, there'd be no Palestinians left either. Thankfully, some people here won't let that happen.
And the exact same could be said for members of Hezbollah, Al-Quaida, and any other terrorist group you could think of. Thank Allah we're runnin' the show here.
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ATG
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If the Islamofacist had the same resources as the U.S. Ikarti, you'd be swearing an oath to Allah in short order, or you would die.

Facisim means lack of tollerance for other kinds of thought.
Islam bears the banner of facisim.
oug
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ATG wrote:

It wasn't Muslims committing genocide against the Jews, it was Europeans.

And WW2 wasn't the only time.

I find all the hatred and missunderstanding about Israel to be nothing more than a repeat of the rhetoric Hitler used to talk people into mass murder.

My family lost people in Europe making it stop.

Why, is the world so eager to listen to a bunch of crazy people spouting nonsense like the Jewish state doesn't have a right to exist?

What is the matter with you people? Can't you see you are being played for fools by anti-semites?
You can upset our traditions all you want ATG. Or at least you can try.

You know what? I could say the same thing: "What is the matter with you people? Can't you see you are being played for fools by the Israeli Lobby?"
But that would prove nothing. Yes, there are anti-semites everywhere (NOT just in Europe yes?) and they are exerting quite the influence on people. And of course, there is the Israeli propaganda machine, it too controlling public opinion in a large extent.

The difference: I for one don't hate the Israeli people. They are mere pawns dragged down this path by their political and religious leaders.

And yes, the Israeli people do have the right to live in Palestine. The UN 1947 partition plan seems to be quite fair in dividing the region. Yet you cannot deny that the proportions the Israeli State has today have no historical basis. Israel has gone way over the line both on a territorial basis as well as in the way they are handling the Palestinians.

Stop hiding behind your finger: admit that Israel has been on the offensive for 50 years. Do not listen to what Israeli generals are telling you about supposed terrorists hiding behind civilians and bullshit like that, look at the map as it is today. The Palestinians are being massively exterminated. Let's agree on these basics and then maybe we can move on to something more constructive about the future of the region.
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mafia996630
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Hezbollah are not terrorist.
Facts and figures don't lie.
Isreal = Invaders.
vedds
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mafia996630 wrote:

Hezbollah are not terrorist.
Facts and figures don't lie.
Isreal = Invaders.
Ok sure Hizbollah arent terrorists and the sky is pink.


For fuck sake man, the damage they have wrought on their own people is immense.

I think you will find that a lot of the "facts and figures" touted are substantially exagerated or just plain made up.

Israel has a right to exist. If groups threaten that right, they have the right to defend themselves however they see fit.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
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ATG wrote:

If the Islamofacist had the same resources as the U.S. Ikarti, you'd be swearing an oath to Allah in short order, or you would die.

Facisim means lack of tollerance for other kinds of thought.
Islam bears the banner of facisim.
I'm fairly sure it doesn't.
CameronPoe
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ATG wrote:

If the Islamofacist had the same resources as the U.S. Ikarti, you'd be swearing an oath to Allah in short order, or you would die.

Facisim means lack of tollerance for other kinds of thought.
Islam bears the banner of facisim.
1) Palestinian Freedom Fighting has nothing to do with Islamic militancy.
2) Your last statement is the mother of all generalisations.
CameronPoe
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King_County_Downy wrote:

If Israel had the same disregard for innocent life that Hezbollah did, there would be no Palestine left. PERIOD.
Don't worry they're working on the 'no Palestine left' bit.

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Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-21 08:09:40)

ATG
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Generally speaking, what religion is more intollerent? More facist?

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