The pistol does a specific purpose in airsoft. I love my pistol, and it's about on par with the size + gas usage of an airsoft gun. An AEG will cost about $100-400... depending on what you want, upgrades, and how you like it.HURLEY wrote:
Hey, i think you missed this post^^, or maybe you realized what a dumb ass you are.HURLEY wrote:
Ok, your are RETARDED!joker8baller wrote:
Yeah. Considering that is a HUGE fps. Most guns that are auto shoot 400 max. Can't imagine anyone with a 800fps m249...
True. But it's really only getting to a better position to shoot, and hopefully not turning around and blindfiring half of the opposite team. A lot of luck when you turn around and spray.... Like grenade tossing on Karkand..
Airsoft takes a lot more skill than that, you have to use military strategy to outmaneuver and capture/kill the entire team. It's not simply of being able to shoot, it's when to shoot, not press the trigger as much as possible. Airsoft utilizes large strategies and if MANY of the people whoever tried went to an ACTUAL skirmish, where people show up for a real airsoft battle than many would change their mind. Most places that host airsoft skirmishes are there with over 200 people on a huge acre lot where there are 10-30 squads and you use radios and everything to communicate. Especially those 3 day events.
Mainly in the US, paintball is popular. Anywhere else in the world, airsoft is a lot more popular. In the asian countries especially, you'd get laughed at for wanting to paintball..
Russia is real big on it and so is Europe in general... that is for airsoft...
If you can use your gun effectively FPS doesn't really matter if your just doing backyard wars.
What don't you get about the fact that there is Woods ball where they do the same thing as you?
Europe? lollllllll, is that why one of the best guns on the market (sl74-ego) comes from Europe?
Also to your remark earlier, something about teflon hoppers? my hopper is made out of the same thing as your whole gun, so stfu...
250fps limit? what kind of course do you play on? mines 300fps...
Edit: Oh ya, as someone said below, russia has one of the best teams in the world... Russion legeion. Although there team is not completely russian, they all know how to speak it and use it on the field to there advantage.
I dont give 2 shits what you perfer... those are good guns, and I really don't know how much airsoft cost, but i can bet that pistol isn't "top quality" like a shocker, DM6 DM7, 06 07 ego (the guns that cost 750-1000) plus thats a fucking pistol, it cost 130 for a pistol in paintball, but they're useless and a waste of money
do you use them in airsoft? because I'd rather have a gun (if you ran out of ammo, what does that get you, 15 shots?), and I know guns cost more than pistols, so why dont you tell me how much a nice gun cost... (I know its not as much as a paintball gun, but I'd still like to know.)
I actually use my pistol in the MOUT scenarios, among other things. I love the thing to death, hell, I'm stupid enough to use it in Woodland and get kills with it.
For an average gun, it's anywhere from $100-$400... More if you want to do other stuff with it. Like my SR-15, I'm actually in the process of putting real gun parts onto my airsoft gun, for realism and durability... The average is about $300 for a very nice gun.
A MPEG (Medium Priced Airsoft Gun) can run from $80-140... again depending on who you buy it from. These are also full length rifles and can stand up to the more expensive stuff such as Tokyo Marui... They're an entry-level gun that shoot just as much as the good stuff.
Woodsball is somewhat the same, but it's not as realistic as airsoft, and still involves people randomly spraying instead of using precise and accurate fire. There is no need to change mags, as most players use hoppers that hold 100+ rounds. That and the fact that the paintballs themselves aren't very accurate at farther distances. Once again, it doesn't have as much realism to it, especially when you're shooting something that doesn't even resemble a gun (Rap4 don't...)
Russia is really big on it.Btw, I said tuberware hoppers... Might want to learn to read?
Anyways, Europe, airsoft is very popular, but after your guys weird ban on guns everyone's freakin out. Still in any Asian country, you'd get laughed out by saying paintball... they airsoft.
Over here in America, when I did paintball, the fields limit was 250 fps, and that was the "professional" level, and guns couldn't shot hotter than that.
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Paintball, the one the majority knows is really all about angles, and how many balls per second you can shoot with your fingers. Speedball is about getting lucky off the break, sliding around, and wearing bright jersy's while spraying the various bunkers and doritos. Again, all you have to do is get a good angle and just start shooting. Realistic? Kinda, but not everyone suppresses fire...
Woodsball, again, realistic somewhat. Guns don't really look "real", hoppers don't hold 30 rounds, guns... aren't that accurate, and places usually require full face mask.
Airsoft - Most people associate this with the cheap $10-30 springers they get from Walmart and little kids run around with and get shot. That's true for maybe 1% of the population... Airsoft with the big league is basically a full scale war, involving squads as small as 4, to teams as large as 200... Airsoft also has a lot of military bases, that's helped along with the military (I don't know if paintball does this, as I have quit many years ago), as well as a LOT of former military leaders/personnel in it. Remember Blackhawk down? 2 of those guys actually run HUGE airsoft events around the US...
Airsoft interests a lot of former and current military personnel not only because the guns look real, but they're highly effective for training. A friend of mine's team leader has 5 top-of-the line airsoft guns DESIGNED for military and LE training, instead of the simulations that cops use. We have a team out here in California over 30+ strong. Every single save for one is former or current military... and the other guy's a doctor. The real deal with airsoft is real life tactics put in a real life scenario. You gotta take into fact your number of magazines, how much ammo you got left, when to shoot, which way to flank, while commanding squads, and giving orders to multiple guys. From here, you're learning and practing how to switch your magazines in under a second, how to ambush in a military way. You're engaging multiple hostiles and you're running out of ammo, slinging your rifle quickly, drawing out your pistol and shooting the last few of them. You're recreating scenario's from Tears of the Sun and Blackhawk Down, and you're doing it with guns that actually look real, that are accurate, that aren't affected by weather, by doing it without paint all over a forest, house, or warehouse...
The decent paintball guns are nice, but that's not what the majority of the professionals are using hm? The high end stuff for airsoft is like $400-500... more if you decide to put in real steel gun stuff... But in the end it looks more realistic.
Still even if you get a cheap gun.
$300-400 for the gun.
$50 for a tank
$50+ for a decent hopper...
And that's without pods, rigs, or a mask... Then factor in the paint that most fields FORCE you to buy. Cost a group (12-14 guys) $85 per case of paint... and that was discounted.
Skirmishable airsoft gun
$100-140
$50 for a box of 10 mags
$30 for a tactical vest. (Hell you don't even need this)
And you're set to go...
$10 for a bag of bb's...
But really, nice try on bringing up stuff I didn't say, stuff that really had nothing to do with my post, and stuff that really... just isn't true. (Hurley)
Congratulations you have a teflon gun, I'll stick to my gun that has real gun parts on it...
I'll leave ya at this.
What looks more realistic?
Anyways, RAP4 seems to have come along now...
Still. Effective range of 120 feet, and it shoots 400fps. I don't know where that would be field legal...
The AK-74 on the left shoots 387fps, and it shoots 180 feet reliably... That falls easily under field legality for airsoft.
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That's what I shoot ^^
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