KnowMeByTrailOfDead
Jackass of all Trades
+62|6937|Dayton, Ohio
I thought this artical was rather interesting and figured it would be a good discussion point

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15221111/

What do you think?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6837|SE London

EU. More privacy is more good.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6905

Sounds like the EU pwns the US then. Although not all those things are true, although if they are, the bastard companies that keep phoning me up etc are breaking the law. I might mention that to them next time they give me a call....
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6661|North Carolina
Wow...  I would agree that the EU has a better set of policies concerning privacy, but I just wish Europe wasn't so damn expensive.  I'll take the less privacy here, for now....
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6747|Northern California
Well, since yesterday, people in the US have lost their 4th ammendment rights and habeas corpus.  yes, that law Bush signed does include us citizens, and it means that they don't need a warrant to come in your home, remove you, incarcerate you and pretty much make you a gitmo type prisoner..without habeas corpus, without charges, and without due process.

So this makes the USA a non-free nation.  If the government doesn't like the way i talk, i can be called an enemy combatant, and halled away despite my constitutional protection otherwise. 

So EU I'm sure has greater privacy, and greater freedoms in general.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/1 … rpus-died/    <--- source

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2006-10-18 17:39:57)

KnowMeByTrailOfDead
Jackass of all Trades
+62|6937|Dayton, Ohio

IRONCHEF wrote:

Well, since yesterday, people in the US have lost their 4th ammendment rights and habeas corpus.  yes, that law Bush signed does include us citizens, and it means that they don't need a warrant to come in your home, remove you, incarcerate you and pretty much make you a gitmo type prisoner..without habeas corpus, without charges, and without due process.

So this makes the USA a non-free nation.  If the government doesn't like the way i talk, i can be called an enemy combatant, and halled away despite my constitutional protection otherwise. 

So EU I'm sure has greater privacy, and greater freedoms in general.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/1 … rpus-died/    <--- source
That still has to stand up to the supreme court because you know it will be challenged.

I think if you include the state regulations the US is probably pretty close.
skatefarm
Member
+4|6720
hooray for EU, owns US!
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6747|Northern California

KnowMeByTrailOfDead wrote:

That still has to stand up to the supreme court because you know it will be challenged.
Well, in June, the supreme court (Bush's supreme court) denied him and his unconstitutional request to allow torture.  So he had his rubber stampt congress CHANGE THE LAW that the supreme court relied on so he could torture.  THis is a prime example of why he is considered a empirical ruler..a friggen hitler.  If he could kill opposition, he would.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6905

IRONCHEF wrote:

Well, since yesterday, people in the US have lost their 4th ammendment rights and habeas corpus.  yes, that law Bush signed does include us citizens, and it means that they don't need a warrant to come in your home, remove you, incarcerate you and pretty much make you a gitmo type prisoner..without habeas corpus, without charges, and without due process.

So this makes the USA a non-free nation.  If the government doesn't like the way i talk, i can be called an enemy combatant, and halled away despite my constitutional protection otherwise. 

So EU I'm sure has greater privacy, and greater freedoms in general.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/1 … rpus-died/    <--- source
I'd stop posting about now in that case, if I were you...

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