SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6881|The darkside of Denver

krazed wrote:

i don't have to worry about that here either

unless of course it's done by the police trying to shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect





and hunting permits are good sonder, to maintain game levels properly
No, we have licensing for hunting here too, but PERMIT is different.  When he says permit it means to get permission from the governing body to do something that would otherwise be illegal. To me this means that the government supersedes any sort of game licensing and deems if you're fit enough to hunt/own guns. IE there is no sovereign right.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North

SonderKommando wrote:

krazed wrote:

i don't have to worry about that here either

unless of course it's done by the police trying to shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect





and hunting permits are good sonder, to maintain game levels properly
No, we have licensing for hunting here too, but PERMIT is different.  When he says permit it means to get permission from the governing body to do something that would otherwise be illegal.
it is illegal to kill animals without a permit/license

it's called poaching
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6881|The darkside of Denver

krazed wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

krazed wrote:

i don't have to worry about that here either

unless of course it's done by the police trying to shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect





and hunting permits are good sonder, to maintain game levels properly
No, we have licensing for hunting here too, but PERMIT is different.  When he says permit it means to get permission from the governing body to do something that would otherwise be illegal.
it is illegal to kill animals without a permit/license

it's called poaching
You're not getting it man.  I understand that, we have the same things here in Colorado and throughout the US. The point is this permit he speaks of is probably ridiculously hard to get, and is not as easily obtainable as a hunting license i can fucking go buy at walmart.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North
oooohhhhh, THAT'S what you meant
FloppY_
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+1,010|6507|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

SonderKommando wrote:

krazed wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:


No, we have licensing for hunting here too, but PERMIT is different.  When he says permit it means to get permission from the governing body to do something that would otherwise be illegal.
it is illegal to kill animals without a permit/license

it's called poaching
You're not getting it man.  I understand that, we have the same things here in Colorado and throughout the US. The point is this permit he speaks of is probably ridiculously hard to get, and is not as easily obtainable as a hunting license i can fucking go buy at walmart.
I believe you enroll in hunting classes (well some sort of hunting education, what do I know).. and when you pass a test you can get your license/permit....

If you aim like a drunk cat then you prob. can't get it, nor if you have a criminal record of violence..
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SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6881|The darkside of Denver

FloppY_ wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

krazed wrote:


it is illegal to kill animals without a permit/license

it's called poaching
You're not getting it man.  I understand that, we have the same things here in Colorado and throughout the US. The point is this permit he speaks of is probably ridiculously hard to get, and is not as easily obtainable as a hunting license i can fucking go buy at walmart.
I believe you enroll in hunting classes (well some sort of hunting education, what do I know).. and when you pass a test you can get your license/permit....

If you aim like a drunk cat then you prob. can't get it, nor if you have a criminal record of violence..
well thats not bad, we have hunters education here too.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6507|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

SonderKommando wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:


You're not getting it man.  I understand that, we have the same things here in Colorado and throughout the US. The point is this permit he speaks of is probably ridiculously hard to get, and is not as easily obtainable as a hunting license i can fucking go buy at walmart.
I believe you enroll in hunting classes (well some sort of hunting education, what do I know).. and when you pass a test you can get your license/permit....

If you aim like a drunk cat then you prob. can't get it, nor if you have a criminal record of violence..
well thats not bad, we have hunters education here too.
But anyway, my original question stands:
Can't all bolt-actions be used up to a certain caliber with a normal hunting licence even here in the "restrictive" Europe..
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RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6936|US

DBBrinson1 wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

got a glock 17,26 & 22

had several H&K but sold them ............ I've moved away from extrernal safeties even though I do have 1911s
Well, seeing as your in both glock/springfield camps.... Which do you prefer?

***edit:
I've got a Kimber Ultra Carry II .  F'n pissed.  Reliability has rendered it a target pistol.  It jams 3 of 50 rounds and has been back to Kimber twice.  I'm so let down.  That was my Excalibur of handguns.
Try one with a barrel length over 4 inches.  The 3 and 3.5in 1911s tend to be problematic (and Kimber had a rough period a couple years ago).
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North
i suppose that would depend on which country in europe you were trying to get it in
FloppY_
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+1,010|6507|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

krazed wrote:

i suppose that would depend on which country in europe you were trying to get it in
Was that @ my post? please use quote for responses
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mcgid1
Meh...
+129|6938|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

FloppY_ wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

krazed wrote:


it is illegal to kill animals without a permit/license

it's called poaching
You're not getting it man.  I understand that, we have the same things here in Colorado and throughout the US. The point is this permit he speaks of is probably ridiculously hard to get, and is not as easily obtainable as a hunting license i can fucking go buy at walmart.
I believe you enroll in hunting classes (well some sort of hunting education, what do I know).. and when you pass a test you can get your license/permit....

If you aim like a drunk cat then you prob. can't get it, nor if you have a criminal record of violence..
I've been through hunter's ed in Texas, and I have to assume it's similar across the country, but it mostly consists of gun safety training and basic hunting skills such as tracking wounded prey and game identification.  There's very little firearms training beyond how to safely handle a gun.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North

mcgid1 wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

You're not getting it man.  I understand that, we have the same things here in Colorado and throughout the US. The point is this permit he speaks of is probably ridiculously hard to get, and is not as easily obtainable as a hunting license i can fucking go buy at walmart.
I believe you enroll in hunting classes (well some sort of hunting education, what do I know).. and when you pass a test you can get your license/permit....

If you aim like a drunk cat then you prob. can't get it, nor if you have a criminal record of violence..
I've been through hunter's ed in Texas, and I have to assume it's similar across the country, but it mostly consists of gun safety training and basic hunting skills such as tracking wounded prey and game identification.  There's very little firearms training beyond how to safely handle a gun.
ours was the same, proper firearms handling but no shooting

FloppY_ wrote:

krazed wrote:

i suppose that would depend on which country in europe you were trying to get it in
Was that @ my post? please use quote for responses
lol, yes it was

it varies strongly from country to country
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6200|Blue Mountain State
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Baba Booey
FloppY_
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+1,010|6507|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
I am curious, seeing all these Assault Rifles legally owned... Can one purchase and legally own SMGs such as a UMP in most US states?

Because I would love to own one, however I am still glad guns are not legalized here in Europe
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krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North
lol, assault rifles

an ar-15 is as much an assault rifle as an M1 garand is



i'm not sure which states they are but there are a few that you can get the proper licensing for full autos

Last edited by krazed (2010-02-02 16:02:42)

west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6611

krazed wrote:

lol, assault rifles
https://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/west-phoenix-az/BF2S/bf2s_sig_9mmbrass.jpg
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|6938|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

FloppY_ wrote:

I am curious, seeing all these Assault Rifles legally owned... Can one purchase and legally own SMGs such as a UMP in most US states?

Because I would love to own one, however I am still glad guns are not legalized here in Europe
Depending on the state, you can buy the civilian carbine version of SMG's.  They're not full auto, and the barrel is extended to be a minimum of 14" (possibly 16", I can't really remember the law, but it's one of the two).  The gun shop I used to work at sells Vectors and MP-5's, among other things.  As long as the barrel requirement is met and there aren't any specific state restrictions on the gun design, they're legal.  Now if you're looking for a full-auto SMG, you have to have a class 3 license and go through an unholy amount of background checks along with a waiting period, but you can get them.  The license and guns are expensive as hell, and only a few true gun nuts and collectors ever get them.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North
yeah what he said  ^^^^
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6200|Blue Mountain State
It's 16 inches

FloppY_ wrote:

I am curious, seeing all these Assault Rifles legally owned... Can one purchase and legally own SMGs such as a UMP in most US states?

Because I would love to own one, however I am still glad guns are not legalized here in Europe
they're not assault rifles
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Baba Booey
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North
but they're black and scary!

and the barrel shroud, you know that thing that goes up against your shoulder
FloppY_
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+1,010|6507|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

krazed wrote:

lol, assault rifles

an ar-15 is as much an assault rifle as an M1 garand is



i'm not sure which states they are but there are a few that you can get the proper licensing for full autos
uhm...

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/ofcjim40/ar15-10.jpg

I'd call that an assault rifle


I would like to try and fire one of these:
https://world.guns.ru/smg/hk_ump45.jpg
Bet the .45 has some kick to it? :p
(I know, the barrel is far below the 16" mark

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-02-02 16:20:02)

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krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7001|Great Brown North
you could call it a banana peach sundae

that wouldnt make it one
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6507|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

krazed wrote:

you could call it a banana peach sundae

that wouldnt make it one
translation please?

That made 0 sence to me...
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6200|Blue Mountain State

FloppY_ wrote:

krazed wrote:

you could call it a banana peach sundae

that wouldnt make it one
translation please?

That made 0 sence to me...
translation is it's not a fucking assault rifle
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Baba Booey
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5807

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