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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+1,966|3733|London, England
Because a 9mm takes 6 hits to stop someone while a .45 cal takes one. That recoil is a good indicator of stopping power.
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+350|5092|Riva, MD
Pretty much that, 9mm goes a lot faster so it does better against body armor but unless you're some kind of VIP, nobody who can afford body armor is going to be breaking into your house, some people still prefer having more bullets in a magazine though.  .45 goes slower but makes big holes in people and because almost all factory .45 loads are subsonic, they work very well with suppressors, and some people will really go to that length for home defense so they don't have something that gives them hearing damage when something goes bump in the night and they can't reach for ear-pro.

1911s in particular have a few small quirks though that don't lend themselves to home defense.  They don't always feed hollowpoints well unless the barrel is modernized with a different ramp, and hollowpoints are more ideal for home defense because they do more soft tissue damage and are less likely to overpenetrate.  I've read that they don't like being fired at 90 or sometimes even 45-degree angles, it causes jamming and if you're firing around a corner this could potentially be a problem.  And the standard mags, because they're single-stack, are only 8 rounds, whereas a Glock 21(full-sized .45 Glock) will hold 13 in a standard magazine, a USP 45 will hold 12, a Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 will hold 10, and so on.  You don't need a lot of .45s for a single guy unless you're a bad shot and/or he's a bigger guy but if you have a few armed people at once in your house, you'll want all the bullets you can get in a single mag.

Makes me think about switching to a Glock 21 for HD when I eventually have to move into a shitty area because I can't afford to live anywhere else in this state.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2017-05-07 12:31:07)

War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+556|5088|Purplicious Wisconsin
FN FNX .45 cal variant can carry 15 rounds in a mag if you like extra dakka. It's roughly the same size as a USP. Also, 9mm is not exactly much better than .45 at penetrating body, armor, the difference is too minimal to matter except if we're talking over pressurized rounds like the ones the Russian military use.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
There's a whole lot of crap talked about "stopping power".
IIRC .32ACP is still statistically the most effective round.

I still remember a story from the 'righteous shootings' page of Guns and Ammo from long ago.

Two morbidly obese trailer trash were in conflict over a girl, or perhaps, boy, or most likely dog.
They decided to duke it out like gentlemen, lets call them Tweedledum and Tweedledee as I can't remember their actual names.
So they went to their trailers to get their pieces and faced off.
Tweedledum let loose a full clip from his .45, Tweedledee fired a single shot from his .22.
Tweedledum collapsed with a bullet through the heart, Tweedledee took the bus to the hospital to have seven .45 slugs removed from his chest and gut.

I'm just glad I don't live in 'merica and this is probably the most serious crime I have to worry about.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/nati … 3741b430f7

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2017-05-08 03:03:32)

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unnamednewbie13
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+1,749|5146|USA

That link takes me to an article about revenge porn.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
Yes, and apparently I'm about 10,000 times more likely to suffer it than have to face an armed intruder.
Actually it may have happened already, I don't care really.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2017-05-10 01:22:35)

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RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,615|5112|Oxferd
You'd have to worry about getting into fights with morbidly obese rednecks if you lived in America?
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
Is that not the leading cause of death and injury there?
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SuperJail Warden
Member
+197|2094
what kind of rifle should i get?
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+712|5059|United States of America
Thomas A. Swifts electric
Eagle
Togs8896 is my evil alter ego
+566|5006|New Hampshire, USA
Finally. After waiting 10 months I finally got my NFA tax stamp back and was able to pick up my suppressor for my Sig P226. I love it so much...

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8a67/ascduynhne6puzvzg.jpg

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/08bb/6v66p4cavtdday0zg.jpg
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DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+712|5059|United States of America
I like those cabinets and flooring. Appliances could be upgraded, though.
Eagle
Togs8896 is my evil alter ego
+566|5006|New Hampshire, USA
Sounds like a problem for my landlord haha
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
I don't want a silencer, I want a loudener.
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+556|5088|Purplicious Wisconsin

Dilbert_X wrote:

I don't want a silencer, I want a loudener.
Get speakers and microphone and shoot a gun next to it.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Adams_BJ
Warman is a hermaphrodite.
+2,027|4997|Little Bentcock
Now you can defend your home in peace and quiet.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+712|5059|United States of America
John Wick the shit out of it.
gurdeep
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+806|3130|proll­y
https://i.imgur.com/9soogZf.jpg

just got this bad boy yesterday
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
I set myself the objective of breaking 1450 in 1500 with a stock revolver, I've done it and I think I deserve one of these.

https://i.imgur.com/WpIKCFA.jpg
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unnamednewbie13
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+1,749|5146|USA

I feel like some large caliber guns are bought partly just to make shooters' teeth rattle like five lanes away at indoor ranges. Someone brings out one of those and people's eyes roll.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
Thats a .38 special with super-light target loads, it just has a heavy barrel and a sight rib, its barely more annoying than an airsoft.

But yeah the dickheads who like to make big bangs are annoying, not sure what they think they're achieving missing the target with a high-power load, they can never shoot for shit.
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unnamednewbie13
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+1,749|5146|USA

I wasn't sure what it was specifically. The style just reminded me of all those gigantic chunks of iron people buy when they want to cosplay Robocop or something. Why I brought it up.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,620|4481|eXtreme to the maX
You mean these.

https://www.gunbuyer.com/media/catalog/product/cache/image/886x550/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/1/5/15070.jpg
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unnamednewbie13
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+1,749|5146|USA

Looked the thing up just now: https://robocop.fandom.com/wiki/Auto_9

According to the cast & crew interviews in the Criterion Collection DVD, the production team had to fill out extra paperwork to even allow the gun [Beretta 93R] into the United States, because the National Firearms Act of 1934 defined and regulated any firearm which fires more than one round with a single function of the trigger as a "machine gun" while the Hughes Amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 made it illegal for most private citizens of the U.S. without a specific manufacturing Federal Firearms Licence to own or make any new "machine gun" following the passage of the bill (while grandfathering existing "machine guns").

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