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1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

I've already put about 1200 rounds through this USP the past few weeks. Still have about 600 rounds to finish before I leave.

The Combat Competition is an awesome shooter.

This is 30rds total at 21ft. 18 9mm and 12 45 ACP. Almost missed one. Clipped the very edge.

You mean 21 yards? Even then Dilbert is unimpressed.

If you could put up an impressive group with a pistol I'd be impressed.

A six inch group at six yards - no. An average service pistol shooter would expect to do better at 25 yards in rapid fire.

Dilbutthurt

RAIMIUS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

If you could put up an impressive group with a pistol I'd be impressed.

A six inch group at six yards - no. An average service pistol shooter would expect to do better at 25 yards in rapid fire.

At what cadence is the real question...

Lets take as a starting point, at ten yards - six shots in five seconds - including the draw from holster and racking the slide - you'd still need to do better than a six inch group.
So roughly 2 shots per second.
eg Practice 1 http://www.jerseypistolclub.info/?p=208

And thats a slow shoot.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2012-06-02 00:18:15)

how about catching a ricochet off a 25yd steel spinner plate?

hit the plate, bounced off and up, directly into my sight line, caught the jacket with a bit of lead still in it.

have had ricochets and stray rounds go past me.
this is the only time i've caught one.

oil filter silencer

Same kind of people that put an imitation holosight on a bottom-grade .22, yet fork out the cash for 2 tax stamps (auto & suppressor)

"Third World solutions to First World problems"

Really, you could get about the same effects with a full-auto BB gun.
No tax stamps, no BATF hassles, cheaper ammo, and quieter.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2012-06-04 10:06:29)

Christbane wrote:

yeah paying for the stamp was the part that really made me say wtf     look bubba I gots me a silenced .22

Yeah

"Hey Bubba!  Y'know you get about the same effect as a suppressor if you shoot 22 shorts in a full length barrel, right?"

And, really, if you're going to make a full auto .22, build something cool like a 1/5th scale model GAU-8 electric motor actuated gatling, or a scale model M-242 Bushmaster chaingun autocannon.

1/5th Scale GAU-8 in .22 would be about 4' long overall, the drum would be about 7" diameter x 14.25" long, and hold about 2090 rounds of .22LR in a linkless rotary feed system.
Gearbox and electric motor parts sourced from your local R/C hobby shop, barrels from a 10/22 lathe turned (reduce diameter) and modified for application.

The big showstopper between theoretical design idea and prototype is convincing the US BATF to let one build such a toy.
Telling them you're prototyping to mount on a scale model A-10 "drone" probably wouldn't help things either.
Ditto for the scale M-242 (in 7.62x51mm) on a 5'Lx2.5'Wx2'H 1/5th scale M2/M3 Bradley

Last edited by rdx-fx (2012-06-04 12:19:34)

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

can anyone recommend a first time AR for someone in California?  As I shoot my friends AR more and more, I'm coming to the conclusion that I'd like to own one.  I saw a youtube review of the S&W M&P15 Sport and it looks like a pretty solid, inexpensive entry level gun (~$700).  Anyone have any experience or other recommendations?  Ideally I'd like to shoot 5.56 rounds so my friend and I can share ammo costs

Move out of the PDRC (People's Democratic Republic of Californication)?

The rulers of Cali, in their infinite "wisdom" have determined that magazines, black plastic, bayonette lugs, and other "evil black rifle" accoutrements are verboten.

You'll get better accuracy, and save money if you just get a Remington 700 bolt action rifle in .223 (i.e. 5.56mm AR ammo).
Then, if you have to have something that looks "cool", and improves accuracy, you can put it in an AICS stock.
Changing the stock is simply unscrewing two bolts.

Remington 700SPS in .223 is about $500-$650
AICS stock is about $750

Then you get something that looks similar to;


or, without the AICS stock;

I don't want a bolt action.  You can use magazines in Cali, they just can only hold 10 rounds.  And it has to take a separate action to remove the magazine (instead of just a push of a button).  The Smith and Wesson i mentioned above comes in a Cali compliant version out the door for less than $650

this is what i was shooting this weekend

View My Video

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I don't want a bolt action.  You can use magazines in Cali, they just can only hold 10 rounds.  And it has to take a separate action to remove the magazine (instead of just a push of a button).  The Smith and Wesson i mentioned above comes in a Cali compliant version out the door for less than $650

this is what i was shooting this weekend

View My Video

Your loss.

For cheap fun, S&W makes a .22 semi-auto that looks and feels much like an M-4/AR-15.

For a .223, there's always the California compliant Hello Kitty AR-15

west-phoenix-az wrote:

low quality video spotted

Does that CA compliant M&P come with a bullet button?

yeah i had to reduce the quality for upload.  The gun there is an LMT CQB MRP

It comes with a bullet button, and you can buy mags that have a little piece on the end you can stick in the bullet button to drop the mag.

@rdx: i don't want to get into buying separate stocks and building a weapon piece by piece until I become more familiar with guns in general.  I understand it gets to be an expensive hobby, so I'd rather buy something relatively cheap to start with.  That being said, there's nothing wrong with having a pink AR, OK?