1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6207|Blue Mountain State
p90 with rapid fire and holo sight
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Baba Booey
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6207|Blue Mountain State
Speaking of the P90, I heard Mexican drug cartels are using FNs chambered in 5.7(SS197) for U.S. law enforcement.
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Baba Booey
andros
Banned
+256|4941|HK Chitral, Pakistan
you gun nerds should try and sell some guns to the cartels. '

damn i wanna go shooting again though, fun shit.

after shooting i realized it would be scary as fk and shitty to get shot at or be under fire though.
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1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6207|Blue Mountain State
Getting shot at is pretty legit. Wakes you up in the morning.
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Baba Booey
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6697

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

Speaking of the P90, I heard Mexican drug cartels are using FNs chambered in 5.7(SS197) for U.S. law enforcement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_5-7#Controversy
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6207|Blue Mountain State

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

Speaking of the P90, I heard Mexican drug cartels are using FNs chambered in 5.7(SS197) for U.S. law enforcement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_5-7#Controversy
Interesting. $5,000 for a Five-Seven.

Idea!
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Baba Booey
andros
Banned
+256|4941|HK Chitral, Pakistan

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

Getting shot at is pretty legit. Wakes you up in the morning.
fuck that shit lol.

i heard it can really mess you up temporarily or give you a weird rush in a bad firefight.
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1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6207|Blue Mountain State
smells like victory
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Baba Booey
rdx-fx
...
+955|6820

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

Why's that? Just curious.
I've always liked the look of the MP5 with the fixed stock, though.
Fragile. 
Bendable if you come down on them wrong exiting a helicopter. (Or, airborne operations)
Too much flex for proper aiming.
locking mechanism sometimes doesn't lock (worn army inventory MP5, not a collector's safe queen)
No cheek weld.

Heard 2nd hand that certain groups using the MP5 would swim/jump with the collapsible stock (or no-stock buttplate?),
then switch out to the fixed stock when they arrived where they needed to be.

I personally never changed out my own stock. 
That was armorer level maintenance, and an article 15 for me to attempt.

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

smells like victory
Explosions and artillery are great too.
As long as you're not in the middle of them.

Helicopter crashes 'hard landings using up all remaining airframe flight hours' just suck.
Regardless of which side of them you're on.
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6207|Blue Mountain State
That's cool. I'll still take a old shitty MP5 than my old shitty M4.

Didn't know the army used MP5s, though. Cool. Probably don't anymore.

Last edited by 1stSFOD-Delta (2011-09-25 15:02:57)

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Baba Booey
rdx-fx
...
+955|6820

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

That's cool. I'll still take a old shitty MP5 than my old shitty M4.

Didn't know the army used MP5s, though. Cool. Probably don't anymore.
Everything the M4 does poorly, the MP5 did even worse.

Range.
Power.
Accuracy.
Full auto control.
Ergonomics (M4 selector, mag release, bolt release)
Trigger pull
Armor penetration.
Cover & concealment penetration.
Field stripping.

Essentially,
if the M4 machining tolerances are tight and picky - the MP5 is goddamned Teutonic nightmare.
If the 5.56mm is a little weak - the 9mm is launching little bitty wheelchair bound chunks of lead at the target.


I think the final straw for the Army use of the MP5 was Gothic Serpent (Blackhawk Down).
Aircrews and infantry using different caliber weapons, unable to share magazines or even ammo.
Also supposedly where they figured out that the miniguns should run off of battery power, not just the heli APU.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6851|Little Bentcock
A 22 should be fine to take on goats? I doubt pigs though, but It would be rare I'd be shooting them anyway.

And yeah, paintball markers come under CAT C here in AU, because they are semi-auto. Fucking retarded butt fuck laws. Everywhere else you buy one at a department store and then keep it under your bed. NOT HERE.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6729|so randum

rdx-fx wrote:

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

That's cool. I'll still take a old shitty MP5 than my old shitty M4.

Didn't know the army used MP5s, though. Cool. Probably don't anymore.
Everything the M4 does poorly, the MP5 did even worse.

Range.
Power.
Accuracy.
Full auto control.
Ergonomics (M4 selector, mag release, bolt release)
Trigger pull
Armor penetration.
Cover & concealment penetration.
Field stripping.

Essentially,
if the M4 machining tolerances are tight and picky - the MP5 is goddamned Teutonic nightmare.
If the 5.56mm is a little weak - the 9mm is launching little bitty wheelchair bound chunks of lead at the target.


I think the final straw for the Army use of the MP5 was Gothic Serpent (Blackhawk Down).
Aircrews and infantry using different caliber weapons, unable to share magazines or even ammo.
Also supposedly where they figured out that the miniguns should run off of battery power, not just the heli APU.
well the sas used mp5s and so yeh this is an opinion on the internet
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6729|so randum

Adams_BJ wrote:

A 22 should be fine to take on goats? I doubt pigs though, but It would be rare I'd be shooting them anyway.

And yeah, paintball markers come under CAT C here in AU, because they are semi-auto. Fucking retarded butt fuck laws. Everywhere else you buy one at a department store and then keep it under your bed. NOT HERE.
shit son a .22 can kill a man just fine under a mile or so
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Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5814

All it takes is a needle prick to make a lung start to fill up with blood, or a brain to begin to bleed, or a heart to completely disrupt. .22's are much more dangerous than people like to think, imo.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6851|Little Bentcock
but, I wanna kill a pig. Not a person. Pigs got tough skin nigga.

e: I should probably clarify. When I shoot it, I want it dead, I don't want to hit it and have a 50/50 chance that I got deep enough to kill

Last edited by Adams_BJ (2011-09-25 16:43:21)

Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5814

Pigs have the same skin as human beings. At least according to the discovery channel's ballistic testings shows.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6851|Little Bentcock
but a 22 isn't gonna be a sure kill, even if I do hit the lung and heart. It might, but that's just not humane enough for me.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6729|so randum
well shoot it again
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Always raining and foggy
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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6851|Little Bentcock
haha. What's the power difference between the .22, .22 magnum and .22 hornet. I've hunted all my life with a bow, but only ever shot one of the standard .22. I have shot plenty of weapons though from pistold, rifles, shotguns and assault rifles/ minimi.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7008|Great Brown North

Adams_BJ wrote:

but a 22 isn't gonna be a sure kill, even if I do hit the lung and heart. It might, but that's just not humane enough for me.
.22LR will be headshots required
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6851|Little Bentcock
Well I have a gunshop a few places up from my work, I'll head there, see what they stock, and then throw it all out on the table.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7008|Great Brown North
i imagine .22mag would splatter what it is you're shooting at (in the head mind you)
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6851|Little Bentcock
so .22 mag should suffice for what I want?
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7008|Great Brown North
can't see why not, unless you just miss anything vital lol

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