herrr_smity
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+156|6884|space command ur anus
north Korea is just a paper tiger
JaggedPanther
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+61|6730

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Many cases like these are the fault of victorious nations. For example, Nazi Germany wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for the unfair and economically-crippling treatment of Germany at the end of WWI. The moral to that story is to not generate conditions to where people are willing to throw their lot in with extremists.
BINGO!!!!

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Capt. Foley
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+155|6844|Allentown, PA, USA

CaptainMike wrote:

ATG wrote:

Kim will eventually send his warriors across the 38th parallel.
The korean peninsula will be reunited.
...and North Korea will be no more. At least KMI will no longer be in charge.
What do you guys think if this does happen?

South Korea would put up a fight, then comes the US to help, then lets hope China doesn't feel the same way it did in the 50s and instead puts an end to the North Korean threat. I sure hope they don't go down the path that they chose in the 50s or it will be one hell of a war.
Its China, kinda like trying to decide if a person likes 100 dollars or 100 dollars more. Noone knows until it happens.
CaptainMike
It's just a flesh wound
+45|6901|Canada

Bubbalo wrote:

JaggedPanther wrote:

the 'many' ppl he fed are far outweight(ed) by those he put in the gas chambers alone in one month...
But he wasn't harming Germany, was he?
In the long run yes.
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7022|Cambridge (UK)

CaptainMike wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

JaggedPanther wrote:

the 'many' ppl he fed are far outweight(ed) by those he put in the gas chambers alone in one month...
But he wasn't harming Germany, was he?
In the long run yes.
In the longer run, no.
CaptainMike
It's just a flesh wound
+45|6901|Canada

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CaptainMike wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


But he wasn't harming Germany, was he?
In the long run yes.
In the longer run, no.
care to explain how he didnt screw germany in the long run?
And by long run I mean 1945 with Allied forces running through Europe and germany in complete ruin with thousands of people dead?
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7022|Cambridge (UK)

CaptainMike wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CaptainMike wrote:


In the long run yes.
In the longer run, no.
care to explain how he didnt screw germany in the long run?
And by long run I mean 1945 with Allied forces running through Europe and germany in complete ruin with thousands of people dead?
Read what I wrote - in the longer run - look at Germany now - it doesn't look screwed to me. Just making the point that questions of this nature all depend on the perspective that you take in answering it.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6857|132 and Bush

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CaptainMike wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


In the longer run, no.
care to explain how he didnt screw germany in the long run?
And by long run I mean 1945 with Allied forces running through Europe and germany in complete ruin with thousands of people dead?
Read what I wrote - in the longer run - look at Germany now - it doesn't look screwed to me. Just making the point that questions of this nature all depend on the perspective that you take in answering it.
That's like saying this person is alive and healthy now but the cancer we removed from their body actually helped them to become healthier.
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Scorpion0x17
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Kmarion wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CaptainMike wrote:


care to explain how he didnt screw germany in the long run?
And by long run I mean 1945 with Allied forces running through Europe and germany in complete ruin with thousands of people dead?
Read what I wrote - in the longer run - look at Germany now - it doesn't look screwed to me. Just making the point that questions of this nature all depend on the perspective that you take in answering it.
That's like saying this person is alive and healthy now but the cancer we removed from their body actually helped them to become healthier.
No, it's like saying "thanks to the fact that we removed a cancer, this person is alive and healthy" - as I said it depends on perspective - do you look at the illness the cancer caused, or the improved quality of life the person has after that cancer is removed.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6857|132 and Bush

There are many alive and healthy people(nations) that have an improved quality of life that never had to host a killer(Hitler). The problem is you do infact need to look at the illness. Something you seem to overlook. Can you imagine if every nation had to go through a Hitler to enjoy this "improved quality of life". No, it is not the way it should be.
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Scorpion0x17
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And, again, that's not what I'm saying.

It's not a case of ignoring the illness. It's a case of looking forward not back. Yes, remember, yes, learn from, but, do not dwell.

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Krappyappy
'twice cooked beef!'
+111|7076
to the original poster:

where did you get all this information, and can it be trusted?

we can be certain that what the western media reports about north korea is largely distorted at best.
JaggedPanther
Member
+61|6730

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CaptainMike wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


But he wasn't harming Germany, was he?
In the long run yes.
In the longer run, no.
Well then, following that logic... THANK GAWD FOR WORLD WAR II !!!

~Despite the deaths in the millions, executions, bombing of cities, murder, etc, etc, etc the world seems to be not harmful in the long run~
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6853|Seattle

Taoism: Shit happens

Confucionism: Confucius says: "Shit happens"

Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit

Zen: What is the sound of shit happening?

Hinduism: This shit has happened before

Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah

Protestantism:Let the shit happen to someone else

Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserve it

Judaism: Why does shit always happen to us?

Sufism: The wise man never notices shit happening

Christian Science: If shit happens, pretend it doesn't really exist

Solipsism: Shit happens because I wish it

Mysticism:Just experience shit happening

Asceticism: If shit happens, renounce it

Agnosticism: Nobody knows why shit happens

Gnosticism: I know why shit happens but won't tell you

Atheism: Shit just happens and that's all there is to it

Cartesianism: Shit happens to me, therefore I exist

Platonism: There is ideal shit happening somewhere

Stoicism: I don't care if shit happens

Epicureanism: Let's party while shit doesn't happen

Cynicism: Of course shit happens

Occultism: Shit materializes from other planes of existence

Terrorism: Shit will happen unless you do as I say

Pollyanism: It's so nice that shit happens!

Puritanism: Shit can happen all day as long as you don't call it that

Behaviorism: You are conditioned to having shit happen

Freudianism: If shit happens, it's your mother's fault

Parapsychology: Shit happens without material causes

Surrealism: Purple shit happens near melting clocks

Cubism: If shit happens, you won't recognize it

Cultural relativism: Shit happens everywhere differently

Optimism: If shit happens, we'll find a way to use it

Pessimism: If shit happens, there won't be enough for everybody

Tabloid Sensationalism: Green shit from Mars happens to Elvis clone

Biblical Creationism: Shit happens because God created it

Secular Humanism: Shit happens because it evolved from primitive shit

Scientific Reductionism: If shit happens, find out what kind exactly

Scientific Obscurantism: Amorphous excrement does occur in given cases

Bureaucracy: I don't care if shit happens as long as you fill out the forms

Feminism: Women demand to have shit happen

Ecology: If organic shit happens, it's OK

Capitalism: Let's profit from shit happening

Socialism: If shit happens, let's distribute it equally

Patriotism: Our shit is better than your shit

Conservatism: They don't make even shit happen like they used to

Liberalism: Shit shouldn't happen tomorrow

Classical Physics: Shit does not 'happen', it just moves around

Quantum Physics #1: Shit happens but you can't say both where and when

Quantum Physics #2: Shit happens in discrete quanta called shitons

Holistic Physics: If shit happens, it happens everywhere at once

Microcomputing: If shit happens, we'll fix it in the next version

Applied Mathematics: The probabity of shit happening approaches unity

Engineering: When shit happens, paint over

Medicine: If shit happens, take two Aspirins and call me in the morning

Economics: Shit happens because there's a geat demand for it

Politics: If shit happens, make a deal with it

Diplomacy: Let's pretend shit doesn't happen
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Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|6948|Calgary

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Many cases like these are the fault of victorious nations. For example, Nazi Germany wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for the unfair and economically-crippling treatment of Germany at the end of WWI. The moral to that story is to not generate conditions to where people are willing to throw their lot in with extremists.
Thats actually a really good point!!

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