BC to AD to ... ?

2006-10-13 08:22:55

#1

PuckMercury: 6 x 9 = 42; +298|6782|Portland, OR USA

Well, our present dating system smacks of Christian overtones. The global system for calculating dates centers around the existance of an individual who is hotly debated and potentially never existed. I do not wish to descend to THAT arguement, whether he existed, who he was, yadda yadda.

Fact is, when looking backwards we decided anything before Christ should be counting down to him. The calendar wasn't actually counting down at the time. Revisionist history at work. So, now we're counting up. How long are we counting up? Do we maintain our religious AD, or drop it and maintain the year, or zero out and start again, what? What events would warrant another reset?

This may not go anywhere, but I haven't started a thread in a while. So anyway ... hammer away.

2006-10-13 08:25:34

#2

daffytag: cheese-it!; +104|6830

We will surely stop when years become to long. E.g the year 100,000,000 would be rediculous

2006-10-13 08:26:21

#3

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6778|...

PA - Post Armageddon

2006-10-13 08:28:39

#4

silo1180: The Farewell Tour; +79|6677|San Antonio, TX

And how do they account for the 30 odd years He was alive? They can't be BC or AD.

2006-10-13 08:32:20

#5

PuckMercury: 6 x 9 = 42; +298|6782|Portland, OR USA

silo1180 wrote:
And how do they account for the 30 odd years He was alive? They can't be BC or AD.

he was born in 1 AD. Jesus was alive during the AD time table

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2006-10-13 08:35:05

#6

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6810

BC to AD to AA (Alcoholics Anonymous)

This calendar will continue as is until we become extinct.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-13 08:36:16)

2006-10-13 08:36:37

#7

PuckMercury: 6 x 9 = 42; +298|6782|Portland, OR USA

CameronPoe wrote:
BC to AD to AA (Alcoholics Anonymous)

This calendar will continue as is until we become extinct.

well that's not a fun debate at all ... I object!

2006-10-13 08:52:32

#8

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6899

Before Common Era -BCE, i prefer to use that one

2006-10-13 08:54:04

#9

PuckMercury: 6 x 9 = 42; +298|6782|Portland, OR USA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Before Common Era -BCE, i prefer to use that one

point taken, but whatever you call it the dates still center around the theorized life of a debatable figure.

Ah well, this is clearly not going anywhere. Not a very hot topic, of course, but I couldn't think of anything cerebral.

2006-10-13 08:56:09

#10

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6899

PuckMercury wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Before Common Era -BCE, i prefer to use that one
point taken, but whatever you call it the dates still center around the theorized life of a debatable figure.

Ah well, this is clearly not going anywhere. Not a very hot topic, of course, but I couldn't think of anything cerebral.

you're right. as a student of history I just gotta accept that...

2006-10-13 08:56:34

#11

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7035|Great Brown North

long ago i started calling it CE and BCE google it if you need to but ill keep the current year system thanks:)

2006-10-13 10:09:49

#12

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6700|The Land of Scott Walker

Christianity controls time? Sweeet! Where's my remote . . .
I don't really care if we're counting up or down, makes no difference.

2006-10-13 10:29:01

#13

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6780|South Florida

Well i believe that it would take A LOT of contraversy and time to essentially 'overthrow' the religious belief and start our years over again. If in the future there is a time where there is less religion, or no religion, then i would think that a timeline could be created over again.
What i see happening as a possibility is 2 different timelines. As to not 'Hurt the feelings' of the believers, there could probly be something like this:
Pretend the new timeline started in the year 2150

Religious people use year 2156
Non religious people use year 6

or something to that effect. Since religion has an incredibly powerfull presence in the modern day society, I can't really see anything changing.

So final answer is, I don't think anything will change for a very long time.

Last edited by Dezerteagal5 (2006-10-13 10:30:25)

15 more years! 15 more years!

2006-10-13 10:36:22

#14

HeavyMetalDave: Metal Godz; +107|6913|California

It will change eventually to......BJ then AJ.

Before Judgement....After Judgement.

Or, if you believe in aliens....

It will be BC then AC.

Before Contact and After Contact.

Although it should be.... BD and AD.

Before Dave and After Dave.

HA ha!!!!

2006-10-13 10:48:28

#15

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6700|The Land of Scott Walker

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . Oh, huh, what? This topic is still going? I'm sorry, I fell asleep. Religion will never disappear, this is boring.

2006-10-13 10:50:20

#16

Phrozenbot: Member; +632|6871|do not disturb

HeavyMetalDave wrote:
It will change eventually to......BJ then AJ.

Before Judgement....After Judgement.

Or, if you believe in aliens....

It will be BC then AC.

Before Contact and After Contact.

Although it should be.... BD and AD.

Before Dave and After Dave.

HA ha!!!!

Nice. Dave you should stop by our Euro Forces server.

2006-10-13 10:56:50

#17

Colfax: PR Only; +70|6899|United States - Illinois

Just for factual correctness Jesus Christ was a real person. There is no ifs, ands or buts about that. It is proven historically(fact) and biblically. The controversy is rather he was the son of God or not. So he did exist.

Towards the point though. BCE and CE solved this issue as best it could. Until religion has been wiped off the planet the date system will remain. How would you even do it. Start at zero and everything before that is negative. So if it started today i would have been born in the year -22?

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2006-10-13 11:01:48

#18

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6951|NJ

Wasn't jesus alive during the BC time then the AD time was after his death? Just asking cause I'm not sure and that makes a little more sense.

And around that time wasn't it when the modern calander was created? the 364 days a year thingy?

2006-10-13 11:19:01

#19

kr@cker: Bringin' Sexy Back!; +581|6804|Southeastern USA

really I couldn't care less, it's just a matter of convenience to keep it as is, sort of have 2000 years of precedent going on there, something you might like even less, is that if you take out the BC/AD delineation, we would be at about the year 5700 and something (feel free to correct me those that can multi-task and surf), which is the Jewish calendar, so you'd end up booting christianity in exchange for judaism

2006-10-13 11:21:45

#20

PuckMercury: 6 x 9 = 42; +298|6782|Portland, OR USA

I'm not suggesting we should or that I would want to. Just an idle academic debate over what would warrant a change. Only thing I can think of is if we somehow survived the destruction of the planet (ie future)

2006-10-13 12:03:25

#21

Colfax: PR Only; +70|6899|United States - Illinois

cpt.fass1 wrote:
Wasn't jesus alive during the BC time then the AD time was after his death? Just asking cause I'm not sure and that makes a little more sense.

And around that time wasn't it when the modern calander was created? the 364 days a year thingy?

AD stands for Anno Domini in (Latin: "In the Year of the Lord") So technically no.

2006-10-13 13:40:29

#22

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6723

PuckMercury wrote:
the existence of an individual who is hotly debated and potentially never existed.

Well whether we was what he said he was or not Jesus defiantly existed. An exchange of letters between Pilate and Tiberius proves this.

Oh and I am seeing BCE and CE more frequently as the years progress. Don't want to offend anyone but I personally think that because Pope Gregory I made the calendar it should stay BC and AD

Last edited by doctastrangelove1964 (2006-10-13 13:42:39)

2006-10-13 16:45:58

#23

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|6908

I don't approve of this BC/AD stuff. As far as I'm concerned, today is a Boomtime, and the date is Bureaucracy 68, 3172 YOLD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian_calendar

edit: actually, ddate on my linux virtual machine tells me it's Pungenday, Bureaucracy 69, 3172 YOLD. Forgot about St. Tib's Day.

Last edited by UnOriginalNuttah (2006-10-13 16:53:58)

2006-10-13 17:09:55

#24

IG-Calibre: comhalta; +226|6997|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

Lets face it the Gregorian Calendar which we use is a shite invention of the Catholic Church in the 16C
-It's out of Sync hence the need for leap years, the 13 month Lunar Calender is the accurate calender to use, but the mother Church doesn't want us using the ancient ways for some reason..

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-10-13 17:11:45)

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