I think you Fail, now hush.sergeriver wrote:
I think it was your 4th ball and the batter is walking to first base.
Tell that to the indians.Capt. Foley wrote:
Well Im glad to know that you guys made a country out of killing civilians that were doing NO HARM towards your country. America was founded on war, I know that, and I also know some Loyalists were killed over here who were thought to be loyal to Britain or known to be supporting them. At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence. I am a Irish Catholic and the IRA makes me sick.
Sir, yes Sir.usmarine2005 wrote:
I think you Fail, now hush.sergeriver wrote:
I think it was your 4th ball and the batter is walking to first base.
Ah right, Gerry Adams. uh..i knew that....CameronPoe wrote:
LOL.IRONCHEF wrote:
I saw patriot games. Sean Bean is cool. That's about all I know about the IRA.
Oh, and Sinn Fein was the/a leader of the IRA and he agreed to a disarmament a few years ago which was cool, and it worked and is still in effect. Sinn Fein looks like the lead singer of Alabama to me.
Sinn Féin is a political party. It literally means 'Ourselves Alone'. I think you're talking about Gerry Adams. I can't blame you for making the mistake given that you lives thousands of miles from here.
But he does look like...
Randy Owens (lead singer of alabama)
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Much that gave rise to the Modern IRA was spawned by British Internment of Catholics in the 1970's (America is making the same mistakes all over again with the Muslims and their Prison camps). Were the IRA Terrorists? yes of course they fucking were, but now they are Political Statesmen like it or lump it. Nelson Mandela and the ANC was also once a proscribed Terrorist and Terrorist organisation, he also went on to be a major world Political Statesman & the ANC the Ruling Party of SA. The more interesting question would be, when Ireland re-unites - MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS WILL HAPPEN, will this give rise to a Loyalist insurgency & more blood shed? my answer is probably yes..
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We have more then repaid back the Indians, and we STILL are for something that happened over 100 years ago.sergeriver wrote:
Tell that to the indians.Capt. Foley wrote:
Well Im glad to know that you guys made a country out of killing civilians that were doing NO HARM towards your country. America was founded on war, I know that, and I also know some Loyalists were killed over here who were thought to be loyal to Britain or known to be supporting them. At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence. I am a Irish Catholic and the IRA makes me sick.
There's no way Ireland will ever be re-united! Who in the south would want to take responsibility for the north?!IG-Calibre wrote:
Much that gave rise to the Modern IRA was spawned by British Internment of Catholics in the 1970's (America is making the same mistakes all over again with the Muslims and their Prison camps). Were the IRA Terrorists? yes of course they fucking were, but now they are Political Statesmen like it or lump it. Nelson Mandela and the ANC was also once a proscribed Terrorist and Terrorist organisation, he also went on to be a major world Political Statesman & the ANC the Ruling Party of SA. The more interesting question would be, when Ireland re-unites - MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS WILL HAPPEN, will this give rise to a Loyalist insurgency & more blood shed? my answer is probably yes..
There's a lot of people here who clearly dont understand this topic STOP POSTING!! Do some research, or the different IRA's there's been over the years. The one that came into existence in the 70's as a result of English brutality in the north is called the Provisional IRA, which is very different from the one that won the south its Independence 40 years earlier! Im not talking bout you Calibre by the way!!
Cheers!
Sickening attitude. Just sickening. I'd like to see your attitude if the county you're from became stuck under the control of a foreign power after the creation of a partitioned artifical pseudo-state. I doubt you'd appreciate being abandoned by your fellow countrymen if a chance came about to reunify. You're probably just a D4 Pale-ite quasi-brit going on that ridiculous comment.Jepeto87 wrote:
There's no way Ireland will ever be re-united! Who in the south would want to take responsibility for the north?!
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Ann Coulter doesn't have any balls either
IRA are not terrorists as they do not target civilians. Military and Police units are acceptable but they have never intentionally harmed a civilian.
I do not know much, so don't shoot me for asking - but wasn't there some car bombs in London? Was that IRA or someone else?
o rly? Since when has Harrods been a military establishment for example?doctastrangelove1964 wrote:
IRA are not terrorists as they do not target civilians. Military and Police units are acceptable but they have never intentionally harmed a civilian.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/north … 162714.stm
Eidt: actually i'm editing this because it's over & pretty pointless
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Testicles, yes. Balls, no. Disgustingly filthy little black dress she hasn't taken off in years, yes, adam's apple, yes, but balls....no.Spearhead wrote:
Ann Coulter doesn't have any balls either
^^^^^IS THIS GUY FOR REAL??????^^^^^doctastrangelove1964 wrote:
IRA are not terrorists as they do not target civilians. Military and Police units are acceptable but they have never intentionally harmed a civilian.
This is not a hard question to answer:
ANY group that purposely targets civilians or civilian populated areas are terrorists. Where is the dispute?
ANY group that purposely targets civilians or civilian populated areas are terrorists. Where is the dispute?
I was getting at the notion that it, in the end, it doesn't matter what spectators think. Everthing is relative. The IRA is fighting for something they believe in. Labeling them "such and such" is another way for us (paticularly the US since the OP is from...) to fight for what we believe in. I understand the quest for knowledge and understanding. I can ponder this issue from left to right but since I do not live in that region, nor have I experienced the effects first hand, I can, in a round about way, argue the side of "whoTF cares?"DesertFox423 wrote:
Traitors moreso than terrorists. The Revolutionary War was the military conflict, though. The American Revolution was the change of ideology leading up to the war.MorbidFetus wrote:
A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.
Remember, some Brits considered the American Revolutionists terrorists.... some sympathisized.
I hope I used my commas correctly....
Oliver Cromwell immediately comes to mind whenever I hear something like this.CameronPoe wrote:
Originally guerrilla freedom fighters hijacked by petty thieves, drug pushers and organised crime. They did commit true acts of terror so I guess you would have to call them terrorists. They did a cause in which I believe in no justice whatsoever. Those from the original IRA (the IRB as it was then) would have been turning in their graves in the 70s and 80s.
Not to detract from the callous acts of murder they committed but I'd like to see the number of Irish killed, starved or forced to emigrate by the brits over the past 800 years.
What about the majority of people who wish to remain part of the UK in northern Ireland, should they be forced into a union with the south. What do you mean abandoned? The south pumps money into the north and actively supports the peace process! The people in the north have there own identity now let them decide..CameronPoe wrote:
Sickening attitude. Just sickening. I'd like to see your attitude if the county you're from became stuck under the control of a foreign power after the creation of a partitioned artifical pseudo-state. I doubt you'd appreciate being abandoned by your fellow countrymen if a chance came about to reunify. You're probably just a D4 Pale-ite quasi-brit going on that ridiculous comment.Jepeto87 wrote:
There's no way Ireland will ever be re-united! Who in the south would want to take responsibility for the north?!
Im D15 by the way and id assume your simply delusional by your comments, 800 years get over it! Constantly bringing that up achieves nothing, it was'nt the current UK goverment or people who commited the acts your still complaining about!
I am curious as to why England still feels the need to control northern Ireland. . .
Those of you who have more knowledge on the subject, please enlighten the rest of us who arent too well versed. . .
Those of you who have more knowledge on the subject, please enlighten the rest of us who arent too well versed. . .
The majority of the people in the north want to remain part of the UK so the goverment cant just give it away!
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones: Australia didn't kill anyone to get independence.Capt. Foley wrote:
At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence.
The IRA certainly fought for a cause that they and many many others believed in. There are probably a good deal of brits that in some way sympathise with the fundamentals of the cause.MorbidFetus wrote:
I was getting at the notion that it, in the end, it doesn't matter what spectators think. Everthing is relative. The IRA is fighting for something they believe in. Labeling them "such and such" is another way for us (paticularly the US since the OP is from...) to fight for what we believe in. I understand the quest for knowledge and understanding. I can ponder this issue from left to right but since I do not live in that region, nor have I experienced the effects first hand, I can, in a round about way, argue the side of "whoTF cares?"DesertFox423 wrote:
Traitors moreso than terrorists. The Revolutionary War was the military conflict, though. The American Revolution was the change of ideology leading up to the war.MorbidFetus wrote:
A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.
Remember, some Brits considered the American Revolutionists terrorists.... some sympathisized.
I hope I used my commas correctly....
But the IRA didn't wage a mans war soldier vs soldier, they went after hiding bombs in busy high street shops during the christmas rush. They blew up pubs full of largely civilian people. They murdered a popular childrens TV presenter on his doorstep in front of his wife (McWhirter).
IRA=Terrorists
Doesn't matter how much you dress it up or justify it, the fact remains.
QFEEricTViking wrote:
The IRA certainly fought for a cause that they and many many others believed in. There are probably a good deal of brits that in some way sympathise with the fundamentals of the cause.MorbidFetus wrote:
I was getting at the notion that it, in the end, it doesn't matter what spectators think. Everthing is relative. The IRA is fighting for something they believe in. Labeling them "such and such" is another way for us (paticularly the US since the OP is from...) to fight for what we believe in. I understand the quest for knowledge and understanding. I can ponder this issue from left to right but since I do not live in that region, nor have I experienced the effects first hand, I can, in a round about way, argue the side of "whoTF cares?"DesertFox423 wrote:
Traitors moreso than terrorists. The Revolutionary War was the military conflict, though. The American Revolution was the change of ideology leading up to the war.
I hope I used my commas correctly....
But the IRA didn't wage a mans war soldier vs soldier, they went after hiding bombs in busy high street shops during the christmas rush. They blew up pubs full of largely civilian people. They murdered a popular childrens TV presenter on his doorstep in front of his wife (McWhirter).
IRA=Terrorists
Doesn't matter how much you dress it up or justify it, the fact remains.
IRA = US funded scum imho.
Australia is still part of the commonwealth. Commonwealth is like the club of saying we were once colonies.Bubbalo wrote:
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones: Australia didn't kill anyone to get independence.Capt. Foley wrote:
At least we didnt blow up fucking churches and stuff to get our independence.
