BF2S Forums I nominate General Tommy Franks for 08 Repub presidential candidate

TeamZephyr wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

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How is that relevant to ANYTHING?

'Cos unnamednewbie13 lurves him, he posts his pic at any opportunity, although if you ask me Kerry was almost as shit a candidate as Bush.



That statement by Tommy Franks does make him sound like a good choice for a Republican candidate.

He'd be a good choice.

I second the nomination.

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

Read this excerpt from a Cigar Aficionado magazine interview with Tommy Franks, the retired US military general who led both the attacks on the Taliban in Afghanistan as well as the invasion of Iraq.

The interview took place over three years ago. This guy saw everything coming.

Where are the other conservative leaders willing to speak out in defense of the Constitution?

Tommy Franks wrote:

Two years after the fact of 9/11, we should ask ourselves what is—not in 1941, not in 1917—today, in the twenty-first century, what is the worst thing that can happen in our country? The worst thing that can happen is, perhaps—and this is my personal opinion—two steps. The first step would be a nexus between weapons of mass destruction of any variety. It could be chemical, it could be biological, it could be some nuclear device; and terrorism. Terrorists or any human being who is committed to the proposition of terror, try to just create casualties, not for the purpose of annihilation, but to terrify a population. We see it in the Middle East today, in order to change the mannerisms, the behavior, the sociology and, ultimately, the anthropology of a society.

That goes to step number two, which is that the western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy. Now, in a practical sense, what does that mean? It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive casualty-producing event somewhere in the western world—it may be in the United States of America—that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass-casualty-producing event. Which, in fact, then begins to potentially unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps: very, very important.

Whoa hang on there bud, are you being sarcastic about this guy?  Anyway, this is exactly who I thought should run in the next election.  I think I even made a post about it long ago.  I've personally had the opportunity to meet this man, and my honest opinions of him are that he is a good politician, but a so-so General.  Afterall, wasn't it his idea to have the Afghans (or was it the Pakistanis?  I can't remember) help encircle Osama Bin Laden when the opportunity arose?  That is exactly why Osama got away.  A very poor decision knowing the ones he trusted to cover an area operate in a very sloppy manner.  I understand wanting to show a joint effort in capturing Osama, but that opportunity to capture him should've been taken more seriously.

Ridir wrote:

A lot of people fear that a military leader will just lead them straight to war when they are probably the last people that truely want to go to war.  They know what they are defending, they know what horrors lie in war, they really don't want to have to go to another one.

(thats about 80-90% of them anyway, the rest might be blood hungry but no rule is absolute)

Ike is a perfect example of this.  I like Ike.  Given the state of affairs in this world, a military president (one that showed up and did his duties) is probably a good choice.  Colin Powell would have been good if he hadn't sold his soul.

Hes already got my vote, I can see him being the next Reagan.

Forget that Guy.

My pick would go to.........

General H. Norman "Stormin' Norman" Schwarzkopf, Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Schwarzkopf

Just look at his stats.  I think that he is too smart to run though.

Taken from wiki:

One of the most remarkable incidents in a very distinguished career happened on this tour. When Schwarzkopf received word that men under his command had encountered a minefield, he rushed to the scene in his helicopter, as was his custom while a battalion commander, in order to make his helicopter available. He found several soldiers still trapped in the minefield. Schwarzkopf urged them to retrace their steps slowly. Still, one man tripped a mine and was severely injured but remained conscious. As the wounded man flailed in agony, the soldiers around him feared that he would set off another mine. Schwarzkopf, also injured by the explosion, crawled across the minefield to the wounded man and held him down so another could splint his shattered leg. One soldier stepped away to break a branch from a nearby tree to make the splint. In doing so, he too hit a mine, killing himself and the two men closest to him, and blowing the leg off of Schwarzkopf's artillery liaison officer. Eventually, Gen. Schwarzkopf led his surviving men to safety, by ordering the locations of mines marked with shaving cream. He was awarded his third Silver Star for his bravery but, more importantly to Norman Schwarzkopf, he firmly cemented his reputation as an officer who would risk his life for the soldiers under his command. Schwarzkopf was always known as a tough but caring officer. He told his men that they might not like some of his strict rules, but it was for their own good. He told them "When you get on that plane to go home, if the last thing you think about me is 'I hate that son of a bitch', then that is fine because you're going home alive."

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2006-10-06 15:06:03)

A moderate Republican will probably be the best choice for '08, considering that even in the superior political position they're in at the moment they're fielding shit candidates so far. Hillary should never ever be discussed as an option. Any country that votes Bush in twice and follows up with Hillary for damage control voids its right to exist. Of course everyone will be out to punish the Republicans.

What other Democratic Candidates do we have? "No one knows where my state is" Biden? "I'm young, black and a senator and that's about it" Obama? Feel free to add to the list, I can't think of any more.

I saw him give a speech here.  He is a likeable guy, but very military (crass).

He made some really good points, but he also talked about Vietnam - using exact phrases as "killing gooks" and "slant eyes".  He wasn't very PC, which he'd need some coaching on.  It doesn't work unless he's talking with the troops.

BTW this is funny - after the speech, one of the reporters took questions from the audience for Tommy to answer.  You wrote it on a card and he would talk about them if asked.

I had two questions, which weren't asked - "Do you like eggs?" and "Are you on the down-low?"

There's a good reason why I'm not a reporter...

Last edited by Pug (2006-10-06 17:53:01)

If Hillary even gets into the Executive Branch(first lady doesnt count cause she didnt have much power at all) I will shoot myself. I cant stand her, my dad is hard core liberal and even HE cant stand her. God damn I wanna kill that bitch.